Russia, Jeff Sessions
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Yanno, I have to wonder... What has Russia ever done to US?
I mean, everybody is running around shitting their pants with the thought of big bad scary Russia when, really, the Saudis (and their sockpuppets in DC) have done a bigger number on us than Russia ever did.
Just look at the clusterfuck that is the Mideast, caused by the last two Presidents. Saudi-funded and Saudi-armed nut-cases swarming over Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and Yemen .... where there were once relatively stable nations ... the jihadist threat growing exponentially, and Europe swamped by a refugee/ migrant/ terror crisis, and who benefited?
Us?
The only two nations which got anything out of us spending trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives in the Mideast and North Africa (not counting the hundred-thousand or more of brown-skinned people that we managed to kill) were
1) Saudi Arabia, because it got its proxy-jihadst army spread all over creation (thanks to our nation-destroying efforts) in its never-ending war against its mortal enemy, Iran, and
2) Israel, which doesn't mind proxy-jihadists spread all over creation in its never-ending war against its mortal enemy, Iran, because it has a deal about those jihadists with Saudi Arabia and the USA. (Funny how al Qaeda and its myriad offshoots never attack Israel, no?)
Here you are, cooking up paranoid fantasies ... and I really mean paranoid fantasies ... about Russia, when a real enemy is staring you in the face and you don't even see it.
Strange.
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Quote:This is not a war you asked for, but an Iran War is a real possibility with President Trump:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I mean, everybody is running around shitting their pants with the thought of big bad scary Russia when, really, the Saudis (and their sockpuppets in DC) have done a bigger number on us than Russia ever did. . . .
1) Saudi Arabia
2) Israel . . .
Here you are, cooking up paranoid fantasies ... and I really mean paranoid fantasies ... about Russia, when a real enemy is staring you in the face and you don't even see it.
Strange.
1) Press Secretary Sean Spicer Falsely Accuses Iran of Attacking U.S. Navy Vessel, an Act of War
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/02/press-secretary-sean-spicer-falsel
y-accuses-iran-of-attacking-u-s-navy-vessel-an-act-of-war/
2) And then there is this about Trump’s Defense Secretary: James Mattis’ 33-Year Grudge Against Iran
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/james-mattis-iran-secretary-of
-defense-214500
I'm certain Trump knew Mattis' Iranian grudge when he picked him.
3) Ever since Donald Trump told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) that his “No. 1 priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran,” the nuclear agreement has faced frequent predictions of its demise. Trump’s election was seen as heralding the death knell of the deal: On the campaign trail, after all, he said the Islamic Republic was the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism, a threat across the Middle East, and a country that has covert cells ready to inflict carnage around the globe. Allowing Iran access to billions of dollars in exchange for curbs on its nuclear program, he argued, was not in America’s or the world’s interests.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/24/trump-can-have-this-iran-deal-or-n
o-iran-deal/
4) Iran could be why Trump's first budget will call for a $54 billion increase in defense spending and a corresponding cut in what his administration deems lower priority programs, White House budget officials told reporters Monday. The defense buildup that Trump repeatedly promised on the campaign trail would mark about a 10 percent spending hike.
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Quote:Among the most prominent voices linking Trump and Watergate is Nixon lawyer John Dean, then described by the FBI as the "master manipulator of the cover up".
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wow, it's like watching greased people wrestling in jello.
No issues, no facts, no logic ... just people being slippery and contorting themselves to come out on top.
"I have been hearing echoes of Watergate ever since this presidency started," he told the BBC.
"We are not at Watergate 2.0 yet but we are certainly seeing trends and Jeff Sessions dissembling in front of the Senate is just another one."
"It's pretty clear listening to his testimony that Sessions certainly wasn't truthful when he was before the Senate and I don't think that's simply going to disappear because he's recused himself from partaking in any of the investigation as attorney general. That's going to continue," Mr Dean said.
"These eerie echoes of Watergate keep coming," he added. "I would immediately get a special prosecutor on the case," said Mr Dean.
Mr Trump's January dismissal of the previous attorney general Sally Yates also led to comparison's with Nixon's infamous "Saturday night massacre" during Watergate in 1973, when he fired an independent special prosecutor, triggering the resignations of attorney general Elliot Richardson and his deputy Gen William Ruckelshouse.
Nixon and Mr Trump are believed to be the only US presidents to have dismissed an attorney general.
George W Bush's ethics lawyer Richard Painter fears the Russian connection could make Watergate seem trivial: "The facts now in this investigation are much worse than the facts in the early stages of Watergate, which was a simple break-in ordered by mid-level campaign officials - not by the president. Here we have facts that are much worse: We have a foreign power that has orchestrated a break in. It's a much worse situation than the outset of Watergate."
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39151803
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Blah blah blah....
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The reason why your real life is not going well, 6ixStringJack, and in your desperation you have put your faith in Trump to fix your life is that when somebody tells you what you don't want to know in the real world far from fireflyfans.net you go "Blah blah blah".
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Blah blah blah....
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Originally posted by second:
Iran War is a real possibility with President Trump
No, it's not. Obama really tried that one. Trump isn't going to risk Putin's wrath on the issue. Expect a lot of talk, like with ISIS, but no actual action.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Blah blah blah....
I was going to give you props for doing this.
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I mean, everybody is running around shitting their pants with the thought of big bad scary Russia when, really, the Saudis (and their sockpuppets in DC) have done a bigger number on us than Russia ever did. . . .
1) Saudi Arabia
2) Israel . . .
Here you are, cooking up paranoid fantasies ... and I really mean paranoid fantasies ... about Russia, when a real enemy is staring you in the face and you don't even see it.
Strange. - SIGNY
This is not a war you asked for, but an Iran War is a real possibility with President Trump:
1) Press Secretary Sean Spicer Falsely Accuses Iran of Attacking U.S. Navy Vessel, an Act of War
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/02/press-secretary-sean-spicer-falsel
y-accuses-iran-of-attacking-u-s-navy-vessel-an-act-of-war/
2) And then there is this about Trump’s Defense Secretary: James Mattis’ 33-Year Grudge Against Iran
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/james-mattis-iran-secretary-of
-defense-214500
I'm certain Trump knew Mattis' Iranian grudge when he picked him.
3) Ever since Donald Trump told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) that his “No. 1 priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran,” the nuclear agreement has faced frequent predictions of its demise. Trump’s election was seen as heralding the death knell of the deal: On the campaign trail, after all, he said the Islamic Republic was the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism, a threat across the Middle East, and a country that has covert cells ready to inflict carnage around the globe. Allowing Iran access to billions of dollars in exchange for curbs on its nuclear program, he argued, was not in America’s or the world’s interests.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/24/trump-can-have-this-iran-deal-or-n
o-iran-deal/
4) Iran could be why Trump's first budget will call for a $54 billion increase in defense spending and a corresponding cut in what his administration deems lower priority programs, White House budget officials told reporters Monday. The defense buildup that Trump repeatedly promised on the campaign trail would mark about a 10 percent spending hike. - SECOND
SECOND, hon do you even read what you write? First you go running around with BUT RUSSIA!!!! and when confronted with the fact that Saudi Arabia plus its puppets in DC (including Hillary) are our real enemy, you go running off in another hysterical direction: BUT IRAN!
So, which is better:
(1) Electing someone with a provable record of advocating spending trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives in an effort to forward Saudi Arabia's regional interests, with aides and supporters who have deep abiding ties with Saudi Arabia, and plenty of money from Saudi Arabia. Someone who has fostered and advocated direct war with Russia, or...
(2) Electing someone who MIGHT agitate to fight Iran, but try to reach reasoned relations with Russia?
I'm not too crazy about Trump's advisors statements about Iran. And if it were me, I'd drop Israel (largest recipient of our "foreign aid" ... mostly military) like it was a venomous snake. Except for needing a source of oil, we have no business being in the Middle East. If it were me I'd drop our "interventions" there .... which always seem to benefit Saudi Arabia and its proxy-jihadist army, and Israel .... like they were fucking hot potatoes, and redirect our military to fight actual jihadists, not phantom WMD. Once the proxy-Saudi army was defeated, I'd replace our military spending with rebuilding assistance, and greatly reduce the number and size of our installations in the region.
But, like the song says "You Can't Always Get What You Want". Trump will find it impossible to make nice with Russia while conducting hostilities with Iran (and China, BTW) and by moving against Saudi Arabia's interests but maintaining ties with Israel he may break the longstanding link between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
I would prefer that s
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I mean, everybody is running around shitting their pants with the thought of big bad scary Russia when, really, the Saudis (and their sockpuppets in DC) have done a bigger number on us than Russia ever did
When you perceive people are posting negatively about Russia, you suggest it's because theses people are afraid. I've been down this road with you before. Ain't nobody in this country afraid of Russia.
To set the record straight, it is Trump everyone is talking about. About how he and his staff lied, and are still lying to the American people. It has been those lies, that have caused concerns Trump may have negative ties too Russia. Or Russia may have undue influence over Trump. Why, because why lie about something that can be explained away with the truth. To lie sets off a natural alarm within people.
As I have said before, Trumps and his advisors wounds are self inflected.
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Quote:WELL, YOU SHOULD BE. And if you aren't, it's because your head isn't screwed on straight. Russia is the next major ... or perhaps THE major ... nuclear weapons power, and you're an idiot if you forget that.
When you perceive people are posting negatively about Russia, you suggest it's because theses people are afraid. I've been down this road with you before. Ain't nobody in this country afraid of Russia. -THUGR
OK, yanno, you're just a blowhard idiot and a deep-state troll who is clearly beyond his depth.
SO: WHAT ARE AMERICAN INTERESTS? I suggest that those interests might include:
1) Not getting blown up in nuclear Armageddon, but stopping our ceaseless provocation of Russia.
2) Breaking off our support for Saudi jihadism, Maybe actually fighting al Qaeda instead of protecting them and militarily clearing the path for its takeover of the Mideast.
3) Working diligently to re-start manufacturing in the USA, and re-balancing our trade, so that we could either stave off or weather a petro-dollar collapse.
4) Finding a total replacement for Saudi oil, just in case they decide to boycott us, again. There are plenty of alternatives available.
In the grand scheme of things .... the Trump Administration SHOULD be talking to Russia. I welcome it, and I think there should be more; it would foster our REAL interests, not some rah-rah-deep-state-psycopathy that you seem to be pushing.
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Quote:I just said that they were. Their power is military, and if we leave their borders alone, they will leave us alone.
One of the ways I know that Russia is a threat... is because you say they aren't- GSTRING
The Saudi power rests on its support of the petrodollar. They have done more real damage to us than BUT RUSSIA!!! It's time you woke up to that fact.
CHINA'S power is economic, they are the "factory of the world", and they're looking to be a financial power as well.
The person engaging in either-or thinking is you. We live in a world of contending interests. It's time we started paying attention to ours.
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