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Russia, Jeff Sessions

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 12:04 AM

Meh, Jeff Sessions has ben a dead weight in congress for years. Here's hoping he has to resign early and is out of govt.

T, I agree he should be gone, but I don't think Russia has anything to do with it.


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Saturday, March 4, 2017 1:20 AM

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Meh, Jeff Sessions has ben a dead weight in congress for years. Here's hoping he has to resign early and is out of govt.

T, I agree he should be gone, but I don't think Russia has anything to do with it.





If he resigns, it is the cover up of the Russian contacts that will be his downfall. You have to remember, Trumps whole cabinet and the vice president are on record lying abut these contacts. It has now been reported, Trumps son in law met with the same ambassador during the campaign, in Trump Towers. It's believed he was ushered in through the back door.

Trumps chief of staff just tried to get the FBI to suggest the reports were untrue. That others on Trumps campaign staff meet with Russian officials. Less than a week later we find out several held such meeting.

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 1:29 AM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, much ado about nothing. Trump gave a good speech and ... as sure as night follows day ... the deep state comes up with yet another pointless reason to crank up the old BUT RUSSIA! meme. Good grief.

I was trying to imagine a similar scenario (shoe on other foot) to put this in context for myself.



So it's ok if Hillary was a bit crooked for Trump to be the same? You sure have lowered your standards across the board. . . .

The "BUT RUSSIA! meme" is Trump's fault. He picked the wrong people. Trump's pro-Russian foreign policy has not emerged because Trump's team members are conventional Russia hawks. The Trump national security team are NOT Russian friendly: James Mattis at Defense, H.R. McMaster as national security adviser, Nikki Haley as UN ambassador, Dan Coats as director of national intelligence, and Mike Pompeo as CIA director. The lone exception, former Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson at the State Department, seems to have largely adopted Republican establishment views and is marginalized in the administration anyway.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/23/14712408/secretary-of-state-
rex-tillerson-trump-israel-russia-nato


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:25 AM

I'm wondering if you guys believe that we just stopped having contact ever since the American's won the olympic hockey gold medal in that Kurt Russel flick?



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:42 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm wondering if you guys believe that we just stopped having contact ever since the American's won the olympic hockey gold medal in that Kurt Russel flick?

Don't get cute, 6ixStringJack. If Sessions had admitted that he had met Russia’s ambassador twice last year, he’d have prompted raised eyebrows rather than calls for his head. But by lying under oath, insisting he’d had no such meetings, Sessions has raised suspicions about what, exactly, he was so keen to cover up.

The same goes for the meeting Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn are now known to have had with Kislyak after the election and before the inauguration. That encounter, too, was never disclosed and would have remained secret had journalists not discovered it. Indeed, with a camera permanently stationed in the lobby at Trump Tower, Kislyak must have been spirited in via a back entrance. If it was a perfectly legitimate diplomatic meeting, why the secrecy?

It’s becoming a pattern. Senior Trump officials from the president downwards deny all contact with the Russians – only to be contradicted by the facts. They then have to explain why they lied, behavior unacceptable even to those who might otherwise be relaxed about dialogue with Moscow. As Watergate showed, a first lie can spawn hundreds of others – and it’s those that get you.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/03/donald-trump-villain-rep
ublican-party-blame-russia


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:57 AM

Trump is on record saying he has no holdings in Russia. His son is on record saying he has a lot of holding in Russia. Then there is the thing about Trump criticizing everyone domestically and globally ( EVERYONE ), but Russia. Add to that his refusal to produce his taxes. What's happening now is all self inflected wounds.

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, much ado about nothing. Trump gave a good speech and ... as sure as night follows day ... the deep state comes up with yet another pointless reason to crank up the old BUT RUSSIA! meme. Good grief.

I was trying to imagine a similar scenario (shoe on other foot) to put this in context for myself.



So it's ok if Hillary was a bit crooked for Trump to be the same? You sure have lowered your standards across the board. . . .

The "BUT RUSSIA! meme" is Trump's fault. He picked the wrong people. Trump's pro-Russian foreign policy has not emerged because Trump's team members are conventional Russia hawks. The Trump national security team are NOT Russian friendly: James Mattis at Defense, H.R. McMaster as national security adviser, Nikki Haley as UN ambassador, Dan Coats as director of national intelligence, and Mike Pompeo as CIA director. The lone exception, former Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson at the State Department, seems to have largely adopted Republican establishment views and is marginalized in the administration anyway.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/23/14712408/secretary-of-state-
rex-tillerson-trump-israel-russia-nato


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:10 AM

Hey... maybe this is just Trump's way of draining the swamp?

I'm certainly under no illusion that Republicans in high up positions are "good guys" just because they're not Democrats.

What better way to get rid of crooks than putting them directly under the microscope you're all looking at now?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:43 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey... maybe this is just Trump's way of draining the swamp?

I'm certainly under no illusion that Republicans in high up positions are "good guys" just because they're not Democrats.

What better way to get rid of crooks than putting them directly under the microscope you're all looking at now?

The guys who will "get rid of the crooks" are the FBI. James Comey, who got rid of Hillary, is the big FBI guy. Comey reports to Sessions. Comey sees no evil Republicans. Sessions hears no evil about Republicans. The Republican Congress speaks no evil about their fellow Republicans. With that system design, the crooks will have to do something horrendous, like kill a child at high noon on the streets of DC, before public opinion would immediately "get rid of the crooks". Or we can just patiently wait years, while twiddling our thumbs, for the next election.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:27 AM

You say that... but....

Aren't we talking about a bunch of high ranking Republicans being disgraced and losing their jobs?



You just said that it's the FBI's job and they're not doing it. Looks like it's getting done now, and I haven't heard any stories about kids getting killed at high noon on the streets of DC even.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:40 AM

Wow, it's like watching greased people wrestling in jello.

No issues, no facts, no logic ... just people being slippery and contorting themselves to come out on top.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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