Russia, Jeff Sessions

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As usual SECOND, you're lying.

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Six times Jeff Sessions talked about perjury, access and recusal — when it involved the Clintons.
Good old Jeff used to be very concerned about people lying under oath, excluding himself, obviously.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/02/six-times-jeff-s
essions-talked-about-perjury-access-and-special-prosecutors-when-it-involved-the-clintons/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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SECOND ... I knew, as did you (if you were old enough to remember) that the Monica Lewinsky thing, and the "lying under oath" to Congress about whether or not Bill had sex with that woman, was a giant witch hunt.

So is this.

So don't be a douche. Instead of focusing on stupid "gotchas" - which are really just excuses for rabid partisanship- why don't you put your attention to more important thoughts?

Yanno: What are America's interests? What do you want the nation to look like in 10 years? How do you want it to function?


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND ... I knew, as did you . . .

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Will Jeff Sessions have to recuse himself because Mike Pence used private email as governor and it got hacked? Good old Jeff was very worried when Hillary did the same.

Back when he was governor of Indiana, Vice President Mike Pence used a private email account to conduct official government business, per an investigation from the Indianapolis Star. This is, as any sane person would admit, not the biggest deal in the world. And in a sane universe it would be a relatively small story. But in the actual universe, the number one most-covered story of the 2016 presidential election campaign — by far — was a pseudo-scandal over Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email account to conduct official State Department business.

And Pence — like his running mate and virtually every Republican elected official in the country — professed to believe it was a huge deal as shown in this tweet:

Mike Pence @mike_pence

Donald Trump and I commend the FBI for reopening an investigation into Clinton's personal email server because no one is above the law.
6:46 PM - 28 Oct 2016
https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/792150505015377920

What’s perhaps most interesting about the Pence story is that, as the Indianapolis Star’s investigation shows, the merely hypothetical security risks Republicans raised about Clinton’s emails were genuine problems with Pence’s account:

1) “Pence communicated via his personal AOL account with top advisers on topics ranging from security gates at the governor’s residence to the state’s response to terror attacks across the globe.”

2) “Pence's personal account was hacked last summer.”

3) “In one email, Pence’s top state homeland security adviser relayed an update from the FBI regarding the arrests of several men on federal terror-related charges.”

Critics frequently charged that even if the security of Clinton’s email account was never provably compromised, the real problem is that the account was an effort to evade public records law. She retained lawyers to sift through the archives and hand the work-related ones over to the government, but that’s different from a normal setup using .gov servers in which all work emails would automatically be recorded.

Pence, it turns out, is following the exact same process:

Pence's office said his campaign hired outside counsel as he was departing as governor to review his AOL emails and transfer any involving public business to the state.

The distinction Pence is leaning on is that he conducted official business using an AOL email account, whereas Clinton conducted official business using a server that her family set up after they left the White House.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/3/14801152/mike-pence-aol-email

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Well SECOND, at least you're talking about REAL issues now. Good for you!

Fortunately for us here in La La Land ...

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California Supreme Court Says Officials’ Emails Are Public Records

Government employees in California cannot hide from the public work-related emails and texts on personal devices and private accounts, the California Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday, closing a loophole justices said could allow the "most sensitive, and potentially damning" communications to be shielded.

California now joins a growing list of states that treat public business on private accounts as public records.

The ruling came in a lawsuit against the city of San Jose. San Jose City Attorney Richard Doyle said he was not surprised by the decision and did not plan to challenge it.

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MORE AT http://www.kpbs.org/news/2017/mar/02/court-decide-whether-california-o
fficials-private-/


There are two aspects to using personal servers and communications devices for official business. The first is to evade public records access. While this is becoming LEGALLY less-defensible, practically-speaking if you wipe your records in such as way that they are no longer forensically recoverable (like Hillary did) it becomes difficult to access.

The second part of this, of course, is security. While any official site can be hacked, personal devices are usually a lot less secure, so using them for government-secret communication is really stupid.

Pence was really stupid. I don't know what kind of punishment should be attached to that action, but OMFG he should be given a dunce cap and made to sit in the corner or something. Pay a huge fine. Have his security clearance suspended. Have a personal monitor for his device-use. Go the jail if criminality is involved. SOMETHING. People who do this kind of crap- like Hillary and Pence - should have their heads on a pike at the city gates, as a warning to others.

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But in the actual universe, the number one most-covered story of the 2016 presidential election campaign — by far — was a pseudo-scandal over Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email account to conduct official State Department business.

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AND the 33,000 "personal" emails which were bleach-bitted into smithereens after a subpoena was issued.

Because at least he didn't destroy his records after being subpoenaed, like Hillary did. (BTW, the care with which her records were destroyed itself indicates there was something to hide. It's not like they just hit the "delete" button ... you have to physically overwrite the drive dozens of times to remove all traces of previous information.)

So if Sessions gets a Special Prosecutor for one conversation with the Russian Ambassador (the other encounter really doesn't count) ... will Hillary get one, too?

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Back to Jeff Sessions. The context has shifted massively since Election Day. During the campaign, Trump campaigned on an openly pro-Russian policy agenda and spoke constantly of WikiLeaks as central to his campaign message. Under the circumstances, Trumpworld figures such as Jeff would regard discussions with Russian officials or Russia-linked figures as NOT problematic. Looking at the problematic Kislyak contacts in the broader context after the campaign ended makes it clear why skeptics aren’t going to just take Sessions’s word for it that these discussions had nothing to do with the campaign.

It is too bad the FBI can't get the Russian ambassador's files from his EDIC-Mini Tiny Voice Recorder he always keeps in his coat pocket. There would be a record of his meeting with Jeff.
www.amazon.com/smallest-Recorder-Edic-mini-Guinness-Activated/dp/B00PW
34F2O


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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