A creepy idea
POSTED BY: canadianjon
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 7, 2003 05:25
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Originally posted by Joan:
Merry Christmas. ...my first post anywhere... Are any of you old enough to remember the final episode of St. Elsewhere? Or, how about the last episode of the second Bob Newhart show?
Joan
Hi, Joan! I'm quite old enough to remember both. When "St. Elsewhere" did it, I don't think that had ever been done for a whole series' universe. It certainly knocked me for a loop! And having Newhart still on his previous series was great too.
Cardie
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Quote:I love the scene where that is shown to be the case, when the station's communication system is finally partially repaired so they can hear transmissions from outside sources... and they hear the characters (themselves) standing near the Bashir's real body talking about his condition. That was chilling.
a DS9 episode, "Distant Voices"... he realizes that the station is his mind, and that his friends are archetypes of his own personality facets.
Anyway, you can pretty much take this idea and apply it to ANY story that seems to have one central character who's often with the same few others whose personalities are distinct from each other's. It doesn't have to be designed that way, the interpretation's just available to those viewers who see it that way. King Aragorn in Lord of the Rings, for example. Or that Braveheart character, or John Crichton on Farscape, or Benson from the sitcom Benson, or the Fox and Sheen characters on Spin City, or John Patterson the bridge engineer in The Ghost And The Darkness, or Gene Krantz from Apollo 13... and those last two are historical...
The reasons why these archetypal ideas exist is because they can be applied in so many different cases. Personally, I prefer the Japanese model of Earth, Water, Fire, Wind, and Void characters, because you can do them even when there's no central character, as my sensei showed by applying it to the original Star Wars trilogy.
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Originally posted by Joan:
Merry Christmas. ...my first post anywhere... Are any of you old enough to remember the final episode of St. Elsewhere? Or, how about the last episode of the second Bob Newhart show?
Joan
I remember watching the run of the second Newhart show. As much as I liked the characters and everthing, I will admit the ending was very enjoyable.
This opens up a whole new set of questions like what would have happened to everyone if Mal hadn't had a chance to come into their lifes? How would Jayne and Kaylee's lifes and everyone else turn out on their own?
By the way, this is the first message baord I've ever posted on also. This show seems to really bring people out wanting to talk about it. Let's save it.
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"We've spent too much time reacting when we should have been acting. Let's take the offensive for a change. Fire up the shuttle, Commander, we've got work to do."
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I wouldn't put it post him to do it. I sure as hell wouldn't be happy about it, but if it's the way to go, then it's the way to go.
I've also figured they were gonna do something like that with Buffy... but the thing is, in my mind ay least, it's kind of like discounting the entire storyline. Pretty much saying, "None of this happened, so it doesn't matter." Surely there are folks out there who disagree, so I'll just stand idly by while the flames give me a good roasting.
My reaction would mostlikele be something akin to staring blankly at the screen, muttering to myself, "Um... ok. Wait. What the hell was that?!" Then as the realization sinks in, I'd be forced to wonder what happened to everyone else in the storyline. So did Jayne, Kaylee, Inara and everyone else actually exist? Or were they just Mal's little figmentations? If they did exist, how the hell does he know they exist, and what are they doing? Is Jayne still working for a measly 7%, sharing a bunk "with that one?" Is Kaylee still working for her daddy, getting her freak on in engine rooms while she's on a break? And what about Simon and River?
To be honest, it would probably be way too much for my brain to handle. I'd be confused for a good long while, sad as that may seem. I'd prefer if they did otherwise, if only to preserve my diminishing brain cells. Keep flyin' don't have much merit if no one ever said it.
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Them's fightin' words
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Hmm... has anyone here ever read (or seen the old Twilight Zone) "An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge?"
It's about a rebel spy during the civil war (who is about to be hanged), the story shows him escaping, getting home, some other stuff...
... and ends with his neck being broken by the rope.
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Yes, I saw that.
And what about the whole series of episodes in "Dallas" where the main character (JR Ewing) gets into deeper and deeper trouble, and then gets killed "... and then he woke up".
Oldest trick in the book!
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Originally posted by Tylor:
Hmm... has anyone here ever read (or seen the old Twilight Zone) "An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge?"
It's about a rebel spy during the civil war (who is about to be hanged), the story shows him escaping, getting home, some other stuff...
... and ends with his neck being broken by the rope.
Yeah saw that. Strangely enough, it was showed to us several times in Jr. High and High School English classes.
Hell I didn't mind.
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Them's fightin' words
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An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge was written by Ambrose Bierce, or Bitter Bierce as critics called him. He is known for his ghost stories, and he is known even more for his Civil War narratives--sometimes they crossed over like AOAOCB. He fought for the North at the battle of Shiloh in 1862 and several other battles He survived the Civil War only to run off to Mexico and never be seen again. The last thing he ever wrote was a letter to his surviving son. He writes, "Ah, to be a gringo in Mexico! That is euthanasia!" He was kinda like a 19th century Jimmy Buffet. Geez, one might think I was an English major, or a Civil War enthusiast, or a parrot head! Oh, wait... 
Viva Firefly!
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Every see Jacob's Ladder? Film came out about 12 years ago about a Vietnam vet experiencing flashbacks and hideous hallucinations...but did he ever leave vietname? If you haven't watched it, go to Blockbuster..it's worth the rental.
Peace,
birthsister
still a scaper at heart
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Quote:Been done many times. An entire season of Dallas never happened. The entire series St. Elsewhere was a daydream. Etc.
Originally posted by canadianjon:
The idea of serenity and the crew never existing
is creepifying to say the least.
Interesting idea tho.
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