TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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In one sentence, Donald Trump perfectly encapsulated the appeal of populism in the West
https://qz.com/897088
Trump drew a fairly direct line between his election victory and the choice for Brexit, saying that “both America and Britain understand that governments must be responsive to everyday working people, that governments must represent their own citizens.” He said citizens of both countries “were getting ripped off by the rest of the world.”
Trump said he predicted the June vote in the UK would break in the Brexiteers’ favor. “I said Brexit is going to happen and I was scorned in the press for making that prediction. I was scorned,” he said, working in one of his characteristic complaints about the media.
And then, with rather uncharacteristic clarity, he continued:
“And I said I believe it’s going to happen because people want to know who is coming into their country and they want to control their own trade and various other things.”
And with that one sentence, Trump offered perhaps the most elegant distillation yet, from anyone, as to why his campaign resonated with tens of millions of American voters, and what it is that appears to be pushing the Western populist wave forward.
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I see populists as weaklings. The weaklings wish they owned the country, but they don't. They could own it all, but that would require them to energetically and intelligently fight the wealthy. The wealthy will fight back, so the weaklings never start the fight because they already feel defeated. Half of the weaklings who live in house don't own their house -- the bank owns it and can kick them out. And the weaklings living in apartments? They submit to the whims of the apartment management who can also kick them out. The weaklings don't own their own job because the boss can fire them whenever he pleases. The weaklings are trying to compensate for their own helplessness by finding someone even weaker than themselves to bully. That would be the intolerable foreigners, who have even less power than the weakling populists. But the weaklings won't even do that for themselves. The weaklings let the government do it.
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Originally posted by second:
Doctors' lack of precision in handwriting, billing, record-keeping, diagnosis, and treatment has affected people's lives for the worse. Have you looked at the rate doctors are killing their patients in the USA? 250,000 or 440,000 per year. Don't like those numbers? Then pick a big number. Maybe not to you but it certainly screams to me that your doctor might be in the profession for the money, not to help you. That is also a fair way to look at Trump's entire career, which would explain why he has been sued so often and been bankrupted and screws his suppliers/contractors out of money and is unconcerned about calling his accountant to order the release of his tax returns. Trump is motivated by his money, not your life.
We've gone from talking just about signatures to a very wide range of things, yet again.
I'm willing to bet there are some pretty damn excellent surgeons out there that have miserable handwriting.
Now, if you are the type of doctor that regularly hands out prescriptions, I agree with you that a great effort should be put into having legible handwriting. Lives actually are at stake when you write out a scrip so poorly that the pharmacist either does their job and calls you to get the real scrip or makes a judgement call. What's to say that you even remember what the scrip was 3 days later? I've never seen a prescription pad that made copies.
Chances are, except for a letter he writes to the next president, as is tradition, you're never going to see anything handwritten by Trump the entire time he is in office. And say what you will about his signature, there's no mistaking it for anyone elses.
You're REALLY scraping at the bottom of the barrel for muck to throw at Trump now Second.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Hey 6ixStringJack! If you can shrug off doctors killing 440,000 people a year from medical incompetence, you can shrug off anything Trump does so long as it is less than 440,000 people dead. Per year. Fortunately, for Trump's incompetence to kill enough people for you to notice would require a nuclear holocaust and there are competent people with loaded guns standing close by in the White House who would shoot Trump before he did that.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Doctors' lack of precision in handwriting, billing, record-keeping, diagnosis, and treatment has affected people's lives for the worse. Have you looked at the rate doctors are killing their patients in the USA? 250,000 or 440,000 per year. Don't like those numbers? Then pick a big number. Maybe not to you but it certainly screams to me that your doctor might be in the profession for the money, not to help you. That is also a fair way to look at Trump's entire career, which would explain why he has been sued so often and been bankrupted and screws his suppliers/contractors out of money and is unconcerned about calling his accountant to order the release of his tax returns. Trump is motivated by his money, not your life.
We've gone from talking just about signatures to a very wide range of things, yet again.
I'm willing to bet there are some pretty damn excellent surgeons out there that have miserable handwriting.
Now, if you are the type of doctor that regularly hands out prescriptions, I agree with you that a great effort should be put into having legible handwriting. Lives actually are at stake when you write out a scrip so poorly that the pharmacist either does their job and calls you to get the real scrip or makes a judgement call. What's to say that you even remember what the scrip was 3 days later? I've never seen a prescription pad that made copies.
Chances are, except for a letter he writes to the next president, as is tradition, you're never going to see anything handwritten by Trump the entire time he is in office. And say what you will about his signature, there's no mistaking it for anyone elses.
You're REALLY scraping at the bottom of the barrel for muck to throw at Trump now Second.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Hey 6ixStringJack! If you can shrug off doctors killing 440,000 people a year from medical incompetence, you can shrug off anything Trump does so long as it is less than 440,000 people dead. Per year. Fortunately, for Trump's incompetence to kill enough people for you to notice would require a nuclear holocaust and there are competent people with loaded guns standing close by in the White House who would shoot Trump before he did that.
Your ability to put words in other peoples mouths by veering constantly off topic so much it's impossible to follow never ceases to amaze me Second.
Stay on topic.
We are talking about Signatures.
Just because I ignored the rest of your off topic rambling doesn't mean that I am dismissing anything other than your manipulative bait tactics.
If you give out prescriptions as a part of your job then penmanship is critical because lives are at stake. If you're a neurosurgeon, a day laborer or even a President, your signature means nothing. As long as the checks get cashed and the bills get paid, that's all that matters.
Please stop being so ridiculous.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Mister very slow thinking 6ixStringJack, the topic is actually Trump. The deep philosophical question is: "What is going on inside Trump's brain?" Here is more data for Mr 6ixStringJack:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your ability to put words in other peoples mouths by veering constantly off topic so much it's impossible to follow never ceases to amaze me Second.
Stay on topic.
We are talking about Signatures.
Trump’s Immigration Ban Excludes Countries With Trump’s Business Ties
Not a single Muslim extremist from any of the seven designated countries has ever committed an act of terrorism on American soil.
But residents of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, and other US "allies" are exempt, even though their citizens have committed acts of terrorism in the USA. Not by coincidence, these are also countries where Trump has commercial interests. Is Trump corrupt? He does NOT want to offend countries where he makes money? The governments there could hurt his businesses.
www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/01/27/511861645/trumps-immigration
-freeze-omits-those-linked-to-deadly-attacks-in-u-s
www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-inte
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Trump will claim, if you could get him to accurately answer point-by-point, country-by-country, that he judged those countries he personally does business with are countries that he does not want to harm because that would harm his own businesses.
In the below map, yellow is for Trump Countries. Yellow is also countries that actually send terrorists to the USA to kill Americans. Red is for Banned Countries that send no terrorists to the USA.
Trump's stopping all tourism from red countries would not have prevented 9/11, for example, since Trump is stopping tourism from the wrong countries because of his business interests. Even if Trump eventually does ban tourism from the Yellow countries because somebody in the White House thinks it through for Trump, we already know how Trump's brain works. He lets his business interests control what he does as President.
www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-inte
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Quote:I agree. SECOND'S agenda has been to throw one delusion after another against the wall as fast as possible to see what sticks.
You're REALLY scraping at the bottom of the barrel for muck to throw at Trump now Second.= SIX
SECOND, I could bird-dog that insane handwriting argument (doctor's bad handwriting causes 440,000 deaths per year) with the REAL causes of iatrogenic deaths, starting perhaps with the concept that doctors deal with sick people so maybe you should expect deaths in that population above and beyond the average population, and moving on to hospital-acquired infections, drug interactions, hospital understaffing, etc and I will bet that "sloppy handwriting" will not be found anywhere because it's a vanishingly small cause.
You need to shitscreen your posts for viability. Yanno, at least filter out the OBVIOUS pieces of shit before committing them to the board.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
According to you GSTRING, if I discuss something I'm over-reacting. If I DON'T discuss something, I'm hiding.
You see? You're a troll. YOU don't want to discuss the subject, all you want to do is look for an excuse for personal attacks. So the reason why I'm NOT discussing this with you further is because (1) You've been demonstrated to be wrong about five ti
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Quote:No, Signym. The sloppy way doctors practice medicine kills 440,000 patients a year. The handwriting that can’t be read (despite it being trivial to make handwritten prescriptions legible) is simply one of many small symptoms of doctors’ sloppy thinking, working, and reacting to the problems they are solving. Of course, the major symptom is death.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I could bird-dog that insane handwriting argument (doctor's bad handwriting causes 440,000 deaths per year) with the REAL causes of iatrogenic deaths, starting perhaps with the concept that doctors deal with sick people so maybe you should expect deaths in that population above and beyond the average population, and moving on to hospital-acquired infections, drug interactions, hospital understaffing, etc and I will bet that "sloppy handwriting" will not be found anywhere because it's a vanishingly small cause.
I'd say there is too little thinking in Trump's head or a busy doctor's head and far too much mindless reacting. The results are poor, whether it is bad handwriting or dead patients or stupidly drafted executive orders designed to protect Trump's business interests in foreign countries. But none of us are River Tam and we don't have access to other minds so we can demonstrate how empty headed Trump and some doctors are. All we see are the bad results. It is not surprising that doctors need lawyers and Trump needs spokespersons to explain away their malpractice.
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Quote:All of this from a sloppy signature, SECOND? I'd say you've gone a bridge too far. In fact, the person who is engaging in sloppy thinking is you. I'm not even going to argue your pointless post. There are far more important and interesting things to discuss.
No, Signym. The sloppy way doctors practice medicine kills 440,000 patients a year. The handwriting that can’t be read (despite it being trivial to make handwritten prescriptions legible) is simply one of many small symptoms of doctors’ sloppy thinking, working, and reacting to the problems they are solving. Of course, the major symptom is death.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Quote:Signym, you can't even be bothered to acknowledge that Trump's executive order on Friday, the one titled “Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States”, will allow all the countries that sent the 9/11 terrorists to send more terrorists.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not even going to argue your pointless post. There are far more important and interesting things to discuss.
Trump has business deals in all the 9/11 terrorist countries. That is why Trump's order does NOT protect the USA from actual terrorists; he did not want to interfere with his profitable businesses in those terrorist countries.
Signym, why can't you understand that Trump made his business interests a priority higher than America's interests? Look again, Signym:
www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-inte
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The Trump immigration ban is a conflict of interest. I should mention that Trump is giving the appearance of fulfilling a campaign promise, but he did not go far enough because a ban that included the 9/11 terrorist countries would be bad for Trump's family business interests.
If Trump's supporters ever figure out that Trump only went halfway on his promise to keep terrorists out of America, they might be angry. But knowing Signym, the supporters might not be smart enough.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/trumps-immigration-fiasco-might
-be-more-premeditated-we-think
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Originally posted by second:
Mister very slow thinking 6ixStringJack, the topic is actually Trump.
You obviously never read How to Win Friends and Influence People.
I just noticed you called me a ne'er do well on another thread and now this.
I'm not going to bother reading the rest of your post. Go fuck yourself.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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