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POSTED BY: Jumpy
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:42
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Thanks for the news, Jumpy. I'd like to reiterate that it would be really really great if everyone could send in a letter or fax to Channel 7, or call them, especially in the next few days, asking them to show Serenity Pt 1. instead of The Train Job first, as well as encouraging them to show all the episodes in the Whedon-certified intended order, *not* the order Fox screened them in. Check out www.sixdegreesofwhedon.com for more info.
I'd also like to remind Browncoats in the Melbourne area that we're having our second meetup this coming Sunday November 14th at 2pm. Please go to http://firefly.meetup.com/161/events/ for more information, and if you're a first-timer feel free to join up and RSVP. 
Hey, speaking of which, did the Browncoat contingent in Perth get together this weekend? How did it go?
'Yes... this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... "this land".' 'I think we should call it your grave.' 'Ah! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!'
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No problems Young Spirit.
BTW the time I said (sor firefly) was for Perth, I don't know if its different for over East, just check on the links I put up.
I unfortunately couldn't make it to the meetup. Those uni history papers are a killer sometimes :P. I hope they got together in the end though
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Well the meetup was a bust. I actually live with Idiot Child, and we went along with our other friend SpikeyG, and then met up with a total of no other people. :(
The venue was rather crappy, so it could be that people turned up and we just didn't see each other, but it was rather disheartening. We did have a good afternoon after that though, shopping in Perth. A trip down Hay St to the new Empire Toys proved fruitful for SpikeyG, and I got a Four Star Mary cd from 78's, so all in all the day wasn't a total loss. It was just slightly more Buffy orientated as opposed to Firefly.
Here's hoping next month will be better. I'm looking for a different venue, so suggestions from Perthians are highly welcome. Also a date change, to later in the month as IC and I are both going to be out of town the first week in December.
Let me know your views, so we can really make the next meetup a success,
~VeraCobb
Can we start getting sexed already?
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Dang thats a bummer.
Come to think of it, how do you know if someone from the site is there or not? You just ask everyone in there or something? Brown Coats :P?
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Sydney here.
Thought I'd log on and see what our reactions were to the news that 7 assigned the death slot to Firefly. From a business perspective, I can understand - Australian broadcasters usually wait for around a year or two to see how a series fairs in the US to gauge whether it has a future on tv or not. To them, it looks like they can only milk Firefly for a few weeks for diehards then the movie will come out (which they won't make bucks for unless they get the screening rights), and then that'll be it for them, so they can only assign it a deathslot.
However, 3 things to note:
1) They are targetting the geeks and diehards, putting it up against ST:Voyager, hoping that some of that crowd will come 7's way - no other target audience there.
2) It screens after Alias, so maybe they're hoping for some sort of run on to Firefly - same crowd and target audience to them, and only geeks and diehards will stay up at that time, right?
3) With 11 (hopefully 14) episodes and one ep a week, give or take the Xmas - New Year intereference, it looks like they're timing the end of the series with the run on to the movie, which kinda makes sense.
But by then, look at who will be left watching - to Ch 7, it's a case of Preaching to the Converted.
To all of this, I say GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh.
Btw, good to see you still carrying the torch Young Spirit! Keep up the good work
-- H
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Yeh about what you are saying about seeing how a series fairs in the US first:
I notice on Channel Ten they air these new crime drama or sci fi shows close to prime time. And yet they're shows I've never heard of before, with not even a huge fuss made over them on the internet. Just a couple of examples, there was that show about the crime fighting taxi driver, that lasted for 'bout 5 seconds. And there was that Jake 2.0 show, same story as firefly got cancelled after only so many episodes in its first season. What's more, they air them once a week for five weeks at the most and they don't air them anymore.
So, granted I've used a different network as an example, why would they see these shows doing well (or having a future as you said) on Australian television and yet not firefly, which with its DVD release has now become a pretty big success AND a big deal on the net AND with an imminent movie release?
So I do agree with you about them rating success in US first , but I'm always questioning the kind of logic and research they actually put into this sort of thing. Unfortunately reality television and other mediocre programs are still favoured, pushing quality shows out of the picture.
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Before I say anything, I have to say that I have a vehement dislike for (bad) reality TV. But this is where the topic of reality TV gets interesting: just like drama and comedy, there is good and bad reality tv. Favourites of mine in the past include The Mole, The Amazing Race (at least the early ones) and, admittedly, the first season of Survivor. And while I hearitly agree - most reality shows on the box are "utter shite" - there are a few good ones out there.
Back on topic (sort of), I called Ch. 7 today. Encouragingly, it sounds like they've already gotten some mail and phone calls about it, because when I got through to the programming department and started asking, the woman I spoke to told me they were aware of the situation. Unfortunately, it appears that Ch 7 believes they need to screen them in the US order. I told her about what happened in the UK (Sci-Fi channel found out the correct, dvd-set order and screened them as such) and I think she said something along the lines of 'they were looking into it, but if they don't have a firm result/permission by Wednesday, they will go ahead with The Train Job.
So don't stop calling and letter writing!
Oh, and the logic they use in these cases... ??? Who knows? But I don't think they spend enough time websurfing 
'Yes... this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... "this land".' 'I think we should call it your grave.' 'Ah! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!'
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Melbourne, keeping it real with the rest of the space cowboys.
Jupiter Jazz...
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Some good thoughts in there.
Re: Ch10 and airing new "no-hopers" for 5 weeks, yeah, that's an astute observation. Come to think of it, Ch10 has a very decidedly different way of marketing their programs. In fact they all do I guess. Ch10 really tries to sell their programs with over-hype and mystery. Ch9 seems to go for the grand, epic overview (it's always the number 1 drama that changed the planet in some way), and when they try and connect with the younger, "hip" generation, it really fails miserably (they've currently got a thing for repeating certain words rap-style to appear cool - their ad-maker needs to get laid). Ch7 undersells everything, which is both good and bad - good because the cheesiness is of a lesser quantity than the others, but bad for new unknowns - such as our beloved series.
But take a look under the surface and maybe we get a hint why: Ch10 is basically 3 things: reality shi+, law&order and the Simpsons. Ch9 is basically the loyal Packerettes, Survivor and prime time US favourites (CSI, ER, etc). Ch7 is the hip crowd - Alias, Buffy, Dark Angel... I think Ch10 is always hungry for passionate fandom for its shows, so they hype the hell out of the programs they buy hoping that there are some sick people who are just as passionate about X as we are about Firefly :) Ch9 has its trekkers and ER-ites, Ch7 has its buffy /alias crowd, the closest thing to that sort of nutness Ch10 has are A-idol and big brother (it used to have Xphiles but they've all gone back to their motherships now and they're desparate for more!).
Just some food for thought.
That's some great news YoungSpirit, it's v. pleasing to know there are more nuts out there than those that show up here :)
Is anyone able to pull up stats on just how well DVD sales were for Firefly? Aussie or world sales? is there a way of finding out? Just curious to see how many closet browncoats are really out there...
-- H
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Lol Channel ten: Law and order and the simpsons. You're not wrong! Channel ten likes its American sitcoms also, Seinfeld, Just Shoot Me, Becker to name a few.
Well, lets see:
Amazon.com Sales Rank in DVD: #245
That's really all I can find, I'm not sure where you'd pull sales statistics for specific dvds
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You can't take the sky from me...
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