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Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:30 PM

WHERE THE DNC FILES CAME FROM AND HOW THEY GOT TO WIKILEAKS

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-
WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html


14 December 2016
EXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails - they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for 'disgusted' Democratic whistleblowers

Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and associate of Julian Assange, told the Dailymail.com he flew to Washington, D.C. for emails
He claims he had a clandestine hand-off in a wooded area near American University with one of the email sources
The leakers' motivation was 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the 'tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders'
Murray says: 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks'
'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that,' Murray insists
Murray is a controversial figure who was relieved of his post as British ambassador amid allegations of misconduct but is close to Wikileaks


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4034038/Ex-British-ambassador-
WikiLeaks-operative-claims-Russia-did-NOT-provide-Clinton-emails-handed-D-C-park-intermediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html#ixzz4VLxQkHQH










How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:20 PM

The Obama Paradox

Our first black president has an unyielding faith in the goodness of America. It got him elected. And it will cost him his legacy.

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2017/01/what_bara
ck_obama_could_ve_learned_from_jeremiah_wright.html

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Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:33 PM

The Law says a civilian must run the Pentagon. Does Gen. Mattis deserve an Exception?

Why has Donald Trump picked so many generals for his cabinet? A few popular theories: Trump has patterned himself on the movie “Patton”; he spent his boyhood years at New York Military Academy; he likes the martial machismo of gold-braided uniforms; he needs to balance the ruthless image he cultivated on the “Apprentice” with a nod to sacrifice and service.

Before approving a cabinet with a heavy representation from the military, senators may want to consider whether Trump is simply selecting for a value that is uniquely prized by the military: following orders.

Trump’s choices for defense (James Mattis), homeland security (John Kelly), and national security adviser (Michael Flynn, who does not require Senate confirmation) are all retired generals. His interior secretary (Ryan Zinke) was a Navy SEAL commander; his CIA director (Mike Pompeo) was an Army captain who graduated first in his class at West Point.

Michael Hayden, the former head of the NSA and CIA, suggested that Trump’s overrepresentation of the military in his appointments was simply due to a lack of a better alternative.

Hayden went on to compare retired Marine General James Mattis, Trump’s pick for secretary of defense, to George C. Marshall, the five-star general who President Truman once called “the architect of victory” in World War II.

Many of Mattis’s Republican backers will make the same comparison this week, as Congress begins to consider whether or not to make an exception to the 1947 National Security Act. The law requires the secretary of defense to be “appointed from civilian life,” which now means a seven-year waiting period between retirement and appointment.

Marshall is the only general for whom Congress has ever made an exception. Mattis would be the second.

The Mattis waiver will require 60 votes in the Senate, 10 more than the simple majority needed to confirm a presidential appointment. Democrats, who hold 46 seats, could block it. But so far only one Democratic senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, has come out against the waiver, calling civilian control of the military “fundamental to the American democracy.”

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/09/the-law-says-a-civilian-must-run-t
he-pentagon-does-gen-mattis-deserve-an-exception
/ continues on to explain what had worried Congress before it passed the law to keep the Pentagon under the control of a civilian.

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Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by lkiki:

At the end of the day, Hillary Clinton didn't lose because of Corney, Russia or miscounted votes. Hillary lost because the Democratic Party rigged its own primary and chose the wrong candidate.

13,206,428 voted for Bernie in primaries.
16,914,722 voted for Hillary.

The party did not rig that vote, despite what lkiki says. The party did not stuff the ballot boxes with extra votes for Hillary. The party did not destroy ballots marked for Bernie. Hillary got 3.7 million more votes than Bernie in the primary. She only got 2.9 million more votes than Trump in the general election.

How about lkiki's notion that Hillary's votes went to the wrong candidate?

That is a matter of opinion, but this is not: 13,206,428 who voted for Bernie did not all vote for Hillary in the general election. Hillary could have definitely used all 13,206,428 Bernie votes. She did not get those votes because Bernie lovers hate Hillary.

If 10,705 bitter Bernie voters in Michigan, out of the millions who voted for Dem in Michigan, had voted in the general election for Hillary rather than tell her to fuck off, Trump would have lost Michigan. This is what it cost for Bernie lovers to express their hatred of Hillary and their fixation on Hillary as a greater evil than Trump.

The same goes for bitter Bernie voters in three other close states who expressed their hatred for Hillary by converted a win for Hillary into a win for Trump.

That was not really a clever tactic of 1kiki or Bernie voters to convert an easy fight against the evils of President Hillary into “a lot harder” fight against evil President Trump.
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Originally posted by lkiki:

Those are my four areas. Under a Clinton administration, my list would have looked much the same. Trump’s election just means the threats will be much greater, and the battles a lot harder to win.

The Bernie lovers could have won almost all their battles against President Hillary, with Bernie always around to LOUDLY remind Hillary of her promises. But with their less than keen political minds, the Bernie lovers’ choice was to lose most of their political battles with President Trump, who won’t have anybody like Bernie softly whispering in his ear as the little voice of his conscience. Trump has no respect for any of Bernie’s beliefs. Hillary does. Too bad Bernie lovers don’t understand that difference in respect is important, but maybe some of them will learn the lesson. Trump will be their teacher who loves to punish his students.

www.nytimes.com/elections/results/michigan

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Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:45 AM

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The party did not rig that vote, despite what lkiki says.
It may well have. All you have to do is google: irregularities voting democratic primaries

And of course there's the extremely well-documented collusion between the DNC - which is mandated to be neutral - the Clinton campaign, the Obama administration, and the media.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/

And 'Bernie' is the scapegoat de jour? Not Comey, 'because ... Putin!', the stupid Constitution with its stupid electoral college, or Wikileaks? Did I forget any of your obsessive rationalizations where you channel the DNC over and over and over?

But what the hell, SECOND. Be an ignorant twit. Bury your nose in the party's butt. In fact, put your whole head up that ass for all I care, if that's what it takes for you to feel all cozy and secure. I really have no interest in you.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:32 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

And 'Bernie' is the scapegoat de jour? Not Comey, 'because ... Putin!', the stupid Constitution with its stupid electoral college, or Wilileaks? Did I forget any of your obsessive rationalizations where you channel the DNC over and over and over?

But what the hell, SECOND. Be an ignorant twit. Bury your nose in the party's butt. In fact, put your whole head up that ass for all I care, if that's what it takes for you to feel all cozy and secure. I really have no interest in you.

No. No. No. Bernie is solid. Bernie is a Rock. It is the Bernie lovers, the millions of them who decided they were going to teach that ugly-bitch Hillary a lesson she would never forget once she was back living in the White House. They were not going to vote for her so that they could deeply, permanently hurt her feelings.

Bernie's "We love only you forever" supporters did this despite Bernie campaigning for Hillary and asking them to please, pretty please, vote for her. She might be the distant second best, compared to beautiful Bernie, but according to Bernie, Hillary was a thousand times better than Trump.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:42 AM

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Originally posted by second:
It is the Bernie lovers, the millions of them who decided they were going to teach that ugly-bitch Hillary a lesson she would never forget once she was back living in the White House. They were not going to vote for her so that they could deeply, permanently hurt her feelings.

Bernie's "We love only you forever" supporters did this ...

Facts SECOND? Links? Post-polls or exit polls showing Bernie voters swung the electoral college? Of course not. Not from you. NEVER from you.

And 'Bernie' is the scapegoat de jour? Not Comey, 'because ... Putin!', the stupid Constitution with its stupid electoral college, or Wikileaks? Did I forget any of your obsessive rationalizations where you channel the DNC over and over and over?

But what the hell, SECOND. Be an ignorant twit. Bury your nose in the party's butt. In fact, put your whole head up that ass for all I care, if that's what it takes for you to feel all cozy and secure. I really have no interest in you.





How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Facts SECOND? Links? Post-polls or exit polls showing Bernie voters swung the electoral college? Of course not. Not from you. NEVER from you.

Do you have some polls that show Bernie lovers voted for Hillary? Please share with us.

Now that Trump won, Bernie lovers might want to falsely claim they voted for Hillary so that the stink of Trump does not contaminate them, but can they provide proof they did vote for the Democrat? No, they can't, unless they took a selfie or they Xeroxed their mail-in ballot.

I voted by mail and even I forgot to make a copy and I always scan into a .pdf file every important document. I would post my ballot online if only I had it to post. Damn, damn, damn it all, I've got no proof I even voted.

P.S. Did 1kiki remain pure by voting for Jill Stein? Or did 1kiki maintain absolute purity to Bernie by not voting at all?

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Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:26 AM

Quote:


Originally posted by second:
It is the Bernie lovers, the millions of them who decided they were going to teach that ugly-bitch Hillary a lesson she would never forget once she was back living in the White House. They were not going to vote for her so that they could deeply, permanently hurt her feelings.

Bernie's "We love only you forever" supporters did this ...

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Facts SECOND? Links? Post-polls or exit polls showing Bernie voters swung the electoral college? Of course not. Not from you. NEVER from you.

And 'Bernie' is the scapegoat de jour? Not Comey, 'because ... Putin!', the stupid Constitution with its stupid electoral college, or Wikileaks? Did I forget any of your obsessive rationalizations where you channel the DNC over and over and over?

But what the hell, SECOND. Be an ignorant twit. Bury your nose in the party's butt. In fact, put your whole head up that ass for all I care, if that's what it takes for you to feel all cozy and secure. I really have no interest in you.





How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:42 AM

1kiki, when you get crazy, you start to shout in big, red letters. But shouting is not the same as understanding. Did you maintain your purity by voting for Jill Stein? Or did you keep your virginity by not voting at all, saving yourself for Bernie 2020? He can always run again, maybe start his own political party just for you and him. A political party of two. It will be very cozy. He's not going to be elected President, but you and Bernie can live together forever.

1kiki, do you realize that you wrote the following without a single citation to backup your delusions that you are competent to predict electing Hillary meant the End-of-the-World?

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Personally, I saw the US stupidly escalating conflict with Russia, which, given the neo-liberal neo-CONS on hillary's side, could have escalated into global nuclear conflagration.

And YOUR COUNTRY would whither and die along with all the others. All your feeling of political isolation somehow translating to some kind of magical physical protection, would provide you with ZERO shield against radiation. So, how do YOU feel about nuclear conflagration NOW?

www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60980&mid=1019531#
1019531


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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