Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria
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Civilians liberated from Mosul. Or should I say 'liberated'?
Notice the obvious wounds on these victims, as opposed to the lack of obvious wounds on the 'victims' in videos from ISIS in suburbia Aleppo.
Quote:Quote and link, please.
There is no ISIS in East Aleppo.
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Civilians liberated from Mosul.
Ah, the old pivot to Mosul
Dearest Kiki, YOU claimed that east Aleppans felt "liberated". Either defend your claim, or retract it. Strangely, none of the Aleppans in that video I posted were particularly pleased to be "liberated".
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There is no ISIS in East Aleppo.
Quote and link, please.
Asking me to prove a negative...How about, Mrs logically challenged, you back up YOUR OWN claim about ISIS being in east Aleppo, and prove me wrong in the process?
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Quote:Really? Because I looked for the word "pleased" and the only place I find it is in your posts. So - what DID I say? Quote required.
Dearest Kiki, YOU claimed that east Aleppans are "pleased" to be "liberated".
Quote:You DON'T stand by your claim that there's no ISIS in suburban Aleppo. OK.
Asking me to prove a negative...
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Really? Because I looked for the word "pleased" and the only place I find it is in your posts. So - what DID I say? Quote required.
You said that they really do "feel liberated". I already checked and so amended my above post.
Last chance to back up or retract your claim about ISIS being in east Aleppo...
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In any case, comparisons between news reports coming out of Mosul and those coming out of Aleppo should be interesting; as well as looking for admissions that there weren't 250,000 civilians trapped by fighting - or conversely, complete silence on the topic 'how many civilians in Aleppo'; and also, waiting for US/ UN offers of aid for civilians.
These areas of obvious discrepancy between one narrative and the other, between past narrative and present narrative, or between rhetoric and action, I think will illuminate the facts of US/ western interests.
You DON'T stand by your claim that there's no ISIS in suburban Aleppo. OK.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wiki says the offensive began in October.
Yes, the offensive has been going on for weeks and weeks, that's exactly my point. The regime has been carving off bits of rebel territory one after another. Siggy has been posting in this thread about tens of thousands of civilians being "liberated" - and that was before the 50,000 in 2 days cited by the Russian military.
Here's Siggy (this has also been posted to the predictions thread, for posterity:
SIGNYM: "I've been keeping track of the number of civilians evacuating east Aleppo, and it's nowhere near 250,000. It totals no more than about 30,000 so far, with just a few neighborhoods remaining. All of that yammer about "250,000" civilians was what I thought: sheer (UN-backed) bullshit."
So Siggy, Kiki. First your Russian propaganda tells you that the 250,000 figure of civilians in east Aleppo is inflated by lying Western media, and is more like 30,000. Then, later, it casually drops a Russian military quote that 50,000 civilians have escaped the fighting in just 2 days of a 3 month long offensive.
And neither of you bats an eyelid?
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KPO: "My guess is you'll pivot from scoffing at the "supposed tens of thousands" of civilians in east Aleppo, to boasting about how well the cuddly Assad is taking care of them all"
KIKI: "MEANWHILE - where is the US in offering aid to the recently liberated civilians of Aleppo suburb? Where is the UN?"
Yep, here we go
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First your Russian propaganda tells you that the 250,000 figure of civilians in east Aleppo is inflated by lying Western media, and is more like 30,000.
The quote wasn't that there were 30,000 IN Aleppo, but that, so far, only 30,000 had evacuated FROM Aleppo.
SIGNYM: "I've been keeping track of the number of civilians evacuating east Aleppo, and it's nowhere near 250,000. It totals no more than about 30,000 so far, with just a few neighborhoods remaining. All of that yammer about "250,000" civilians was what I thought: sheer (UN-backed) bullshit."
I'm getting tired of having to correct the errors/ strawmen/ lies you constantly post.
And because you completely misrepresented the argument, quite obviously I have no need to respond to it.
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In any case, comparisons between news reports coming out of Mosul and those coming out of Aleppo should be interesting; as well as looking for admissions that there weren't 250,000 civilians trapped by fighting - or conversely, complete silence on the topic 'how many civilians in Aleppo'; and also, waiting for US/ UN offers of aid for civilians.
These areas of obvious discrepancy between one narrative and the other, between past narrative and present narrative, or between rhetoric and action, I think will illuminate the facts of US/ western interests.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
First your Russian propaganda tells you that the 250,000 figure of civilians in east Aleppo is inflated by lying Western media, and is more like 30,000.
The quote wasn't that there were 30,000 IN Aleppo, but that, so far, only 30,000 had evacuated FROM Aleppo.
I'm getting tired of having to correct the errors/ strawmen/ lies you constantly post.
Signy, from earlier in the thread:
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I have heard quotes that the real civilian population on East Aleppo was something like 30,000, not the inflated figure of 250,000 that the UN and western press have kept citing... I guess I'll keep count of how many are estimated to have fled to other parts of Aleppo, and see if it totals up to about 30,000 as I've been led to expect.
It's cute how excited you get when you think you can actually prove I'm wrong about something.
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Do you mean YOU got the wrong quote and posted it? And you think I'm in error because I responded to the quote YOU POSTED rather than the quote YOU INTENDED TO POST? I'm flattered that you think I'm omniscient, or at least a mind reader, but the fact is I'm neither.
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Originally posted by kpo Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:14 PM:
Here's Siggy Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:33 AM (this has also been posted to the predictions thread, for posterity:
SIGNYM: "I've been keeping track of the number of civilians evacuating east Aleppo, and it's nowhere near 250,000. It totals no more than about 30,000 so far, with just a few neighborhoods remaining. All of that yammer about "250,000" civilians was what I thought: sheer (UN-backed) bullshit."
I'm in a quandary. I'm extremely reluctant to let your lies go unaddressed. otoh there are SO MANY of them, and I really don't want to waste my time on you. This requires some thought.
eta: you're boring, so I'm not going to bother
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