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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

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Friday, December 9, 2016 5:47 AM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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What KIKI said: I was struck by the fact that they were dragging and hand-carrying "victims" out of the rubble to .... wherever. But anybody with a modicum of training knows that you should put victims on a backboard. Anything will do- a door, a plank of wood. There was no care for possible spinal injuries.
Well, that and the fake 'CPR' being 'given'. The lack of bruising on anyone. No broken bones. In fact, no significant visible injuries anywhere on anyone.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?



I know - they should have been stripped naked before the cameras so we could see their injuries and blood better. You are one sick pos.



Does anyone here believe for a moment that 1kiki was an EMT? From EMT to commie troll.


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Friday, December 9, 2016 8:30 AM

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Does anyone here believe for a moment that 1kiki was an EMT?
That was way back in my younger, more energetic days, when it seemed exciting and adventurous. But I've done many things - gas station attendant, house cleaner, computer programmer, clinical instructor - to name a very few things on my very long list. But I've been fortunate to be pretty intelligent, which I know isn't true for others.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Friday, December 9, 2016 9:32 AM

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I couldn't help but notice you just added more bull shit to the board. - GSTRING


I couldn't help notice that you have nothing but personal insults to post. I guess that must mean that you have nothing to say. As usual.

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You are one sick pos.-GSTRING
More insults, substituting for fact. Tsk tsk. Temper, temper, child.

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Does anyone here believe for a moment that 1kiki was an EMT? From EMT to commie troll. - THUGR


Good lord. BOTH of you don't seem to mind looking like idiots.





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Friday, December 9, 2016 6:03 PM

So, those terrible, horrible, mean Russians and Syrians have called a unilateral halt of operations in Aleppo to allow civilians to escape. Since evacuations have been successful many times in the past ...

West Ghouta (Nov 29)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/massive-west-ghouta-evacuation-un
derway-thousands-leave-idlib
/

Qudsaya (Oct 13)
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/10/syria-qudsaya-regime
-settlement-opposition-evacuation.html


Daraya (Aug 27)
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/syrian-civilians-rebels-continue
-evacuate-daraya-160827101545680.html


Moadamiyeh (Oct 19)
http://syriadirect.org/news/for-3000-evacuated-residents-once-stalwart
-moadamiyeh-fades-into-the-distance-along-the-road-to-idlib
/

Homs (Sep 22)
https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2016/09/22/homs-syrian-rebels-evacu
ated-from-al-waer-district-heading-to-idlib
/

... among others ... there is no reason to believe that this evacuation couldn't be successful either, if the terrorists allow it to be so.

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The Syrian army has stopped “active military activities” against militants in the city of Aleppo, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov announced Thursday refering to the fact that this is needed to allow civilians to withdraw from the battleground. The statement was made on the sidelines of a meeting of ministers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE).

Lavrov made the announcement following the meeting with US State Department Secretary, John Kerry on the Syrian issue.

Another unilateral ceasefire by Syrian government forces in Aleppo has already caused a sceptical reaction among the expert community interested in the Syrian conflict. Many believe that Aleppo militants will sabotage again the withdrawal of civilians from the city because militants need the local population as a human shield against government forces and as a reason of constant diplomatic and media pressure on Syria and Russia.

Another important question raised by Syrian experts is: Was the Russian decision to push the unilateral ceasefire related to Washinton’s alleged attempts to save US intelligence and special service members from the Aleppo pocket? On Tuesday Al-Hadas news agency reported, citing own source, that the negotiations were aimed to assist US spies, including an intelligence officer embedded with militants and an informant named Balal Abdel Karim to leave Aleppo.


https://southfront.org/why-does-syrian-army-stop-active-military-opera
tion-in-aleppo
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While SyriaDirect is always a day or two late (only now are they posting about the "rebel" losses in Aleppo; I guess they have to check in with the State Department before posting anything!) liveuamap doesn't show any new airstrikes in the past roughly 24 hours.



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Friday, December 9, 2016 6:16 PM

Meanwhile

U.S.-led coalition in Iraq and Syria acknowledges 54 civilians killed in airstrikes
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/12/01/u-s-led-c
oalition-in-iraq-and-syria-acknowledges-54-civilians-killed-in-airstrikes
/

Spokesman: Coalition accidentally bombed Yemen hospital
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/spokesman-coalition-a
ccidentally-bombed-yemen-hospital/2016/12/06/e072f8c0-bbef-11e6-ae79-bec72d34f8c9_story.html


20 civilian deaths blamed on coalition airstrike near Raqqa
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/11/10/world/20-civilian-deaths-b
lamed-coalition-airstrike-near-raqqa
/





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"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"

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KPO
Friday, December 9, 2016 8:21 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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U.S.-led coalition in Iraq and Syria acknowledges 54 civilians killed in airstrikes


Over a 6 and a half month period. That's like Putin and Assad's daily death toll.

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20 civilian deaths blamed on coalition airstrike near Raqqa
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/11/10/world/20-civilian-deaths-b
lamed-coalition-airstrike-near-raqqa
/


This was from a month ago. Can you say "Meanwhile" and then post something from a month ago?? But anyway. Let me point out that the report of casualties comes from the SOHR, which you have trashed repeatedly and at length and called unreliable. I believe you said they don't even have anyone working on the ground in Syria. Now you're quoting them as your source for 20 coalition civilian casualties?

It would appear, not for the first time, that you are full of bullshit.


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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521

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Saturday, December 10, 2016 10:30 PM

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But anyway. Let me point out that the report of casualties comes from the SOHR, which you have trashed repeatedly and at length and called unreliable. - KRAPO
Vetted by the USA military. US-led coalition confirms 54 more civilian deaths in air strikes against Isis in Iraq and Syria.

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Over a 6 and a half month period. That's like Putin and Assad's daily death toll.- KRAPO
SAYS WHO? Vested anti-Assad "activists"? Terrorists who don't mind posting (apparently) fake rescue videos or killing people in a false-flag Sarin attack, just to precipitate US bombing in Syria? (And then posting staged pictures for the USA-press to eat up?)

Now, here is something to chew on: Russian MOD just yesterday said that they have had NO ... let me repeat NO ... air operations over Aleppo since October. I wish I could find that statement again, it is very intriguing. Now either activists on the ground have been deliberately misreporting what's going on in east Aleppo, or the Russian MOD has unimaginably large brass balls, or people on the ground are confusing artillery strikes with air strikes, or Syrian airstrikes with Russian ones, but there was definitely something hinky going on with the reportage from (what used to be) the terrorist enclave.

Meanwhile, I would imagine that the western press would be all over those internally-displaced persons from east Aleppo ... Yanno, they have been crying over those trapped* civilians for months

*trapped by the so-called rebels
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Opposition groups blocking civilians from fleeing east Aleppo: UN https://www.yahoo.com/news/opposition-groups-blocking-civilians-fleein
g-east-aleppo-un-105608931.html



you would THINK that their dear readers would want a follow-up as to what happened to them! How many are there? (This would be not only a useful cross-check on previous reported estimates but also necessary for aid planning) Where are they going? How are they being settled? Who is providing aid?

But western readers are curiously uncurious and western press focuses on a few people here and there, but no "big picture" reporting. The only overall reporting that I can find is Russian press, which says that 50,000 people left east Aleppo in the past 48 hours. https://southfront.org/since-today-morning-1217-militants-surrendered-
to-govt-forces-in-aleppo
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I suppose that once our government - or the UN- acknowledges these IDPs, then they might be morally - or optically - obligated to provide aid.







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KPO
Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:22 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Vetted by the USA military. US-led coalition confirms 54 more civilian deaths in air strikes against Isis in Iraq and Syria.


Nope. You're either lying, or just being dumb. 2 ways that you could've checked what you just said and realised that it is obviously wrong:

1. There's no mention in the WaPo article about the specific airstrike cited by the SOHR (the village was named as Al-Heisha)
2. The 54 US military 'vetted' deaths are over a 6 month period from March 31st - October 22nd. The dates of the airstrike that the SOHR claim killed 20 was November 9th - outside the period that the US military were even looking at.


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Now, here is something to chew on: Russian MOD just yesterday said that they have had NO ... let me repeat NO ... air operations over Aleppo since October. I wish I could find that statement again, it is very intriguing. Now either activists on the ground have been deliberately misreporting what's going on in east Aleppo, or the Russian MOD has unimaginably large brass balls, or people on the ground are confusing artillery strikes with air strikes, or Syrian airstrikes with Russian ones, but there was definitely something hinky going on with the reportage from (what used to be) the terrorist enclave.


LOL that you can't bring yourself to think, or at least type, that the Russian government may be lying

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Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:30 AM

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LOL that you can't bring yourself to think, or at least type, that the Russian government may be lying
LOL that you can't bring yourself to think that EVERYBODY lies. Including your ... no, especially your ... beloved terrorists, intertwined "rebels", and their American and British patrons.

What I posted was this
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Now, here is something to chew on: Russian MOD just yesterday said that they have had NO ... let me repeat NO ... air operations over Aleppo since October. I wish I could find that statement again, it is very intriguing. Now either activists on the ground have been deliberately misreporting what's going on in east Aleppo, or the Russian MOD has unimaginably large brass balls*, or people on the ground are confusing artillery strikes with air strikes, or Syrian airstrikes with Russian ones, but there was definitely something hinky going on with the reportage from (what used to be) the terrorist enclave.

*in other words, or the Russian MOD has unimaginably large brass balls (to lie like that)...

Again, the USA military - especially the DIA - should know who's doing what. They supposedly can track which jets are taking off from which bases. But you can be sure I don't take the word of so-called "rebels" who are so closely intertwined with Saudi-backed terrorists that you can't see daylight between them. They're too biased and have staged too many videos in the past to be automatically believed about, well, anything.




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Sunday, December 11, 2016 6:50 AM

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/12/09/us-military-admits-we-deli
berately-bombed-hospital-iraq


US Military Admits: We Deliberately Bombed a Hospital in Iraq

Military spokesperson says "it's very difficult to ascertain with full and total fidelity" that no civilians were killed

The U.S. military said Thursday that it intentionally bombed a hospital in Mosul, Iraq as part of its efforts to "eradicate" Islamic State (ISIS) fighters.

The attack on the Al Salam hospital complex took place Wednesday at the request of Iraqi forces, with coalition aircraft using "precision-guided munitions," Air Force Col. John Dorrian, spokesperson for the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS, told reporters.

He said "it's very difficult to ascertain with full and total fidelity" that there were no civilian casualties, whether in the building targeted or elsewhere within the hospital complex.

ISIS fighters, Dorrian said, "were using the facility to fire heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades at the Iraqi security forces in the area." The strike on the "normally protected facility" allowed the Iraqi forces "to fall back to a more defensible position," he said.

The "protection of civilians," he said later in the press conference, "has been a centerpiece, a foundational element of the campaign to liberate Mosul."

The military is not carrying out an investigation but rather an "assessment" of the strike, the spokesperson added.

The battle to reclaim Mosul from ISIS fighters, which began in October, has left civilians, including roughly 600,000 children, trapped and facing a worsening humanitarian situation.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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