Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria
POSTED BY: kpo
UPDATED: Monday, September 8, 2025 15:48
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What, you "don't have time" to go over the White Helmets videos, but you do have time to do a YouTube search for "fake Syria videos", and post every pro-Russian and pro-Assad propaganda video that you find?
I'm still waiting.
"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521
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Looked at the vids and I had to wonder if these were self-posted. Because I've never heard so many Allahu Akbars since I saw self-posted terrorist attacks. Yeah, I know it means God is greatest but it seems to have lost its religious meaning lately and become more of a terrorist meme.
So what up?
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Aaaaand ... you're quoting the NYT. The one that had to write a mea culpa for crappy reporting not two weeks ago.
You're both too stupid to be believed.
They "had to?"
Obviously that's incorrect. They felt a responsibility to do so but they didn't have to. I don't expect someone who has as low a sense of personal integrity - especially about the Truth - to understand that though.
Probably 95% of the media outlets got that one wrong big time, and of course many will not own up to that - so especially in context, it was totally unnecessary on their part. Hell, even Kiki got it wrong.
Sorry, Trump propaganda outlets saying he would win just don't count.
SIG and 1kiki post what they claim to be facts from unreliable sources in these threads. They think that others here get their news, ( information ) from them. All their posts actually do is provide a record of their trolling. Nothing more...Our posting responses to their type of trolling is what the wider internet is now realizing and responding to, fake news. It is a blight on society and has weaved itself into the fabric of the internet. It's about getting clicks, not disseminating facts for discussion. SIG and 1kiki are all about fake news and getting clicks ( attention ).
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Looked at the vids and I had to wonder if these were self-posted. Because I've never heard so many Allahu Akbars since I saw self-posted terrorist attacks. Yeah, I know it means God is greatest but it seems to have lost its religious meaning lately and become more of a terrorist meme.
So what up?
Here we go, you can't point out that any of the videos are fake so it's back to labelling everyone "terrorists".
It's a highly religious society. They pull a child out of the rubble of their own homes and cry "God is great" because the child is still alive. And you want to use that to smear them as terrorists? Why? Because it serves your worldview. Your precious worldview.
No one in their right mind would watch those videos and see swarms of terrorists. Those people are not terrorists, they're PEOPLE.
"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521
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As a former EMT - I see a lot of cosmetic injuries in your videos, with everyone amazingly healthy and intact. The 'victims' look a lot like the volunteer 'victims' we were trained on, which were healthy people with fake blood, dirt, debris etc painted on. I'm not saying these ARE fake, but it would be extremely easy to fake them. It would be far harder to fake a traumatic amputation, compound fracture, blown-apart skull, evisceration, chunks of flesh ripped open and hanging down as from a large avulsion, or other genuine and devastating injury. And those are all amazingly absent in every single 'victim' shown. I also didn't see any hard-to-fake medical treatments, like the insertion of an airway. (Also, as a professional comment, I saw a lot of very bad care being 'given', much of it would have been lethal to anyone with a serious injury, and which wouldn't even have met standards from 40 years ago.)
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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No one in their right mind would watch those videos and see swarms of terrorists. Those people are not terrorists, they're PEOPLE.= KRAPO
SIGNYM doesn't do *other people.*- GSTRING
Awww.... "terrorists are people too" What a cute meme.
What KIKI said: I was struck by the fact that they were dragging and hand-carrying "victims" out of the rubble to .... wherever. But anybody with a modicum of training knows that you should put victims on a backboard. Anything will do- a door, a plank of wood. There was no care for possible spinal injuries.
Also I was looking at the children specifically and wondering... what was the source of their injury? It was really hard to tell - they looked basically uninjured, except that they were limp. So another thing that crossed my mind was: How do you get children to be so limp? Sedate them, like they did in the pictures of the "victims" of the chemical attack on Ghouta? Would someone go that far to stage a rescue? Women were mostly (suspiciously) absent. I can't say that they're fake, but they didn't all look real either.
AFA the flurry of "Akkahu Akbar" greeting every "rescue" ... pro-government fighters seem to have their own victories without a flurry of accompanying Takbirs. I went online to see if I could find videos of the SAA or Liwa al Quds or Tiger Forces or any government -friendly fighters with equivalent Allahu Akbars, and I couldn't. For example, here is a 9-minute video of intense fighting and even a rescue, and not a single "Allahu Akbar" can be heard. A lot of battlefield discussion, but no Allahu Akbar!
An 8-minute video of Tiger Forces.... same thing!
So it's not fair to say that it's a "religious society" ... only PARTS of it are religious. Maybe even "extremely" so.
I recall reading a story about life in Raqqa... how the population, which was Sunni to begin with .... was gradually turned towards Wahhabism by foreign forces, like Nazi-occupied Europe. The people tried to live their lives as much as possible, there was more or less accommodation towards occupying troops and ideology. The (few) civilians still living in east Aleppo are for sure on a spectrum of religious fervor. Some are just keeping their heads down, but some of them are fully on-board with Wahhabist theology.
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In the meantime, the "rebel" defense in Aleppo has collapsed, and most of the remaining pocket has disappeared.
I've been keeping track of the number of civilians evacuating east Aleppo, and it's nowhere near 250,000. It totals no more than about 30,000 so far, with just a few neighborhoods remaining. All of that yammer about "250,000" civilians was what I thought: sheer (UN-backed) bullshit.
The UN had suggested yet another "cease fire" several days ago, which the "rebels" would have used to regroup and re-arm (as they have in the past). The UN has never backed the Syrian plan of evacuating active "rebels" from Aleppo- I guess the USA-backed portions of the UN were still hoping to protect their precious "rebel"-held pocket in Aleppo. Now that the pocket is essentially taken, let's see if the UN steps and even-handedly offers aid to newly government-controlled areas of Aleppo. I doubt it.
Acknowledging that Aleppo is essentially lost, ISIL has re-opened a front near Palmyra, probably to distract pro-government fighters from turning their attention to Idlib. So there seems to be some overall coordination between ISIL and the so-called "rebels".
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"
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GSTRING
1) I noticed you had nothing to say regarding the inconsistencies in the White Helmet videos that KRAPO brought to the board. You're just not very bright, are you?
2) why don't you bring something other than bullshit to the board?
Quote:Did you know that the UN agreed to stop posting military losses in Iraq because it was hurting morale? http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/12/04/United-Nations-to-st
In the meantime... "asSyrian and RussianCoalition forces kill innocentSyriansIraqis."
op-reporting-military-casualties-in-Iraq/5331480867043/ So it's not like the UN is even-handed in its reportage or aid. It has its favorites, which is pretty much anything the USA wants.
Quote:By reading reports in various sources of how many people have left or been evacuated from various neighborhoods, including western sources, who have no interest in under-reporting the number of displaced people. Didn't it occur to you to try to resolve the discrepant population estimates (250,000 versus 30,000) yourself? I guess not! Why start thinking NOW???
I've been keeping track of the number of civilians evacuating east Aleppo... - SIGNY
Right, sure you have. How have you been doing that exactly?- GSTRING
Quote:Well, it's happened before, MORE THAN ONCE in Aleppo: the first time under the USA-Russian cease-fire, and the second time under the unilateral Russian cease-fire.
The UN had suggested yet another "cease fire" several days ago, which the "rebels" would have used to regroup and re-arm (as they have in the past). The UN has never backed the Syrian plan of evacuating active "rebels" from Aleppo- SIGNY
Right - Syria knows that anyone who is being shot at would take downtime to regroup - naturally. GSTRING
Quote:More unmitigated bullshit.
So they try and finagle a "safe evacuation" plan so they can slaughter them on the way out. - GSTRING
The concept has been successfully applied in a number of other "rebel" strongholds.
Massive West Ghouta evacuation underway as thousands leave for Idlib (Nov 29)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/massive-west-ghouta-evacuation-un
derway-thousands-leave-idlib/
Militants from Syria's Qudsaya prepare to leave for Idlib (Oct 13)
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/10/syria-qudsaya-regime
-settlement-opposition-evacuation.html
Syria: Government forces take Daraya after evacuation (Aug 27)
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/syrian-civilians-rebels-continue
-evacuate-daraya-160827101545680.html
For 1,600 evacuated residents and rebels, once-stalwart Moadamiyeh fades into the distance along the road to Idlib (Oct 19)
http://syriadirect.org/news/for-3000-evacuated-residents-once-stalwart
-moadamiyeh-fades-into-the-distance-along-the-road-to-idlib/
Homs: Syrian rebels evacuated from al-Waer district, heading to Idlib (Sep 22)
https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2016/09/22/homs-syrian-rebels-evacu
ated-from-al-waer-district-heading-to-idlib/
Those were just the ones I found on the first page of searching for evacuation + Idlib. I know from keeping an eye on the news that many evacuations have been successfully completed. Your perpetual ignorance - and your willingness to perpetually spew it here - is a source of never-ending wonder.
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The UN is not specifically a humanitarian organization, but they don't support slaughter either.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=54896#.WElbghRiMy4
9 September 2016 – Welcoming a new understanding on cessation of hostilities in Syria, announced today at the end of a marathon meeting between senior officials from United States and Russia, United Nations Special Envoy for Syria Staffan De Mistura has said that the UN would do "whatever it can" to support an early restoration of the cessation of hostilities.
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Quote:Well, that and the fake 'CPR' being 'given'. The lack of bruising on anyone. No broken bones. In fact, no significant visible injuries anywhere on anyone.
What KIKI said: I was struck by the fact that they were dragging and hand-carrying "victims" out of the rubble to .... wherever. But anybody with a modicum of training knows that you should put victims on a backboard. Anything will do- a door, a plank of wood. There was no care for possible spinal injuries.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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I know - they should have been stripped naked before the cameras so we could see their injuries and blood better. You are one sick pos.
WHO posted the videos as proof, again?
You mean you didn't watch the 'dead' guy in the back of the suv after his pants were removed, being 'given' 'cpr'? The guy with not a single bruise, with no airway inserted, and phony cpr? Because everything in that one sure looked suspicious to me.
But in fact, you don't need to remove clothes to see displaced fractures, or amputations, or deforming head injuries, or bruises, avulsions, lacerations or other injuries in exposed skin. What's suspicious is that there were NONE visible. On any so-called 'victims'.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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