Ron Glass, Emmy-Nominated Actor Known for ‘Barney Miller’ and ‘Firefly,’ Dies at 71
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UPDATED: Sunday, March 5, 2017 02:20
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Originally posted by VeraSamuels:
The man who played the Shepherd is being welcomed in to the eternal home by the great Shepherd.
Once again, with feeling....HE WAS A BUDDHIST.
"Was a member of the Soka Gakkai International, a lay Buddhist organization."
Buddhists believe EVERYTHING is impermanent. You saying he was welcomed to his "Eternal Home" is an insult to his beliefs and incredibly tacky.
Believe in a sky faerie if YOU want to, but you should probably get a clue when giving tribute for others who do not.
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Not tackier than correcting how someone pays respect. With a violent emoticon...
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by VeraSamuels:
The man who played the Shepherd is being welcomed in to the eternal home by the great Shepherd.
Once again, with feeling....HE WAS A BUDDHIST.
"Was a member of the Soka Gakkai International, a lay Buddhist organization."
Buddhists believe EVERYTHING is impermanent. You saying he was welcomed to his "Eternal Home" is an insult to his beliefs and incredibly tacky.
Believe in a sky faerie if YOU want to, but you should probably get a clue when giving tribute for others who do not.
Wow. It's this type of attitude that has always chased people away from this site. I can't say positively Ron wouldn't be offended by the post, but I have a feeling he would understand and know that respect and love was the only thing being offered. Tacky? Not so much.
I've always liked your posts Wishimay, but not this one. VeraSamuels didn't deserve that.
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She came here to pay respects, without spending a MOMENT to know anything about the man, and then to say that he was going to go to HER version of heaven and not what he wanted...
Yeah, I totally stand by what I said.
Even Adam, who frequently is as non-pc as it gets on the internet could manage to get it right.
If you can't deal with differences of opinion, you definitely need to stay off the internets...
And lemme put it this way, would you bring BLTs to a Jewish funeral? Put a giant cross on an athiest's grave?? NO, because it's an insult, and I won't abide people insulting the dead.
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Totally unjustified Wish.
You owe her (and the rest of us posting in this thread IMO) an apology. Stomping so aggressively on a genuinely meant expression of sadness at Ron's passing, *however expressed* - very definitely not disrespect - is out of order and I hope out of character. I've met this lady and can tell you right now that you're unlikely to find a more devoted fan of Firefly, long term con goer and user of this site who also shared a very nice personal memory of Ron in her post.
So if you happen to be religious (I'm not), you're not allowed to pray for someone of another in your own terms or express a sentiment similarly? I've rarely seen a more intolerant post on this site.
"I don't care what you believe. Just believe"
Or choose not to, but not cool Wish. Not cool.
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And if anyone is still reading what was becoming a nice memory/tribute thread about Ron until the mood was broken, a special one off Ron Glass tribute episode of The Signal podcast is now available to download directly from here
http://broadwaves.org/rss/episodes/bw20161027-ronglass.html
It should also show up in iTunes tomorrow (slight delay due to human error!) best we could do in the time, but we hope it lightens the load and raises a smile or two and memories of happier times for Browncoats. What a voice and sense of humour he had!
BTW, if you use a modern podcatcher app like Downcast, *watch* the final minutes silence full screen.
The Signal < www.serenityfirefly.com>;
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In the context of this being an appreciation of Ron, we should err on the side of compassion, as the Shepherd would. Vera's comment was appropriate based on her feelings, Wishimay was completely rude and inappropriate. It matters little that my own personal opinion of a soul, or an afterlife, is probably much the same as that held by Ron & Wishy. This is not a time to snipe at a fellow fan for their heartfelt condolences.
If Wish doesn't think an apology is in order, neither should she feel it necessary to say anything else at all.
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Originally posted by Lemming:
I've met this lady and can tell you right now that you're unlikely to find a more devoted fan of Firefly, long term con goer and user of this site who also shared a very nice personal memory of Ron in her post.
So what?? You are more upset that I called out an acquaintance of yours than you are that she insulted someone who can't speak for themselves?
The thought of Ron going to a Christian "heaven" when I'm sure he experienced his fair share of Christian assholicness for being gay, upsets ME. It's like telling a pacifist "I hope you go to Klingon Sto-vo-kor when you die." It may have been done out of ignorance, but it was narcissistic and wrong...
If nothing else comes out of this than she learns to rub a couple brain cells together before she sends someone to an eternal afterlife said person wants nothing to do with..... GREAT.
Now, I am sorry I felt forced to interrupt the tone, but I won't ever be sorry for standing up for what I believe is right.
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Wouldn't matter if I'd never met her, you made an unwarranted *personal* attack on someone - a fellow fan - that's totally against the intended spirit of the post (and general vibe) and to my mind is aggressive bullying behaviour and you've been called on it. Not just by me.
What, do you fly into an apoplectic rage every time someone says Bless you if you sneeze?
There's no agenda here, no judging, just an honest grieving sentiment about someone we all admired that happened to tweak your mis-aligned outrage button and make you post something that I believe was flat out of order and wrong.
So we've both expressed what we both believe about your attack (and altered my opinion of someone whose posts used to be worth a look.) Let's move on.
I'm more upset that your indignation fit has required me to continue this conversation rather than read a few more nice posts about Ron.
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Originally posted by Lemming:
(and altered my opinion of someone whose posts used to be worth a look.)
Wow, are you a master manipulator. And you probably are so emotionally defunct you take that as a compliment... Bi-polar? Personality disorder?
You display marginalization and hyperinflationary speech, both hallmarks of a mental disorder. And then you follow up with deflection when you can't get your way... All you can DO is take things personal, I bet.
You should probably know, I don't care who you are or what you are a fan of.
That you put personal stock into how much of a fan someone is
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