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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria

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Friday, November 25, 2016 6:37 PM

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Aaaaand ... you're quoting Russian media. You're both too stupid to be believed.- KRAPO

The story of KRAPO;s involvement in this thread:

1. Enter thread to defend the West against accusations of war crimes by trashing all sources of information (including multiple foreign governments and on-the-ground reports)
2. Spread the Western state propaganda narrative
3. Get challenged to back up this narrative with credible sources
4. Throw out personal insults and flee the thread
5. Repeat
SIGNY



Fixed it for you. And it you want to see KRAPO'S propaganda taken apart, just look one thread up.



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Friday, November 25, 2016 7:06 PM

GSTRING, thank you for your contribution to the pro-terrorist propaganda stream.

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I do agree that it is one of the world's greatest problems not being able to have exact counts for dead people in an active war zone ....
Who the hell is talking about "exact counts"? SNHR is not only wrong, they're off by a hundreds of thousands of deaths, and deliberately so. In fact, it's the same "mistake" that pollsters here made about the election, only far far worse: By not taking ANY information at all from the government and by not even TRYING to validate their data, SNHR is providing extremely one-sided data, in which ALL of the deaths are attributed to "the regime" and the terrorists get off scot-free. And you're just all too happy to suck it up and defend it.

You calling your post a joke is showing profound disrespect for the hundreds of thousands of unacknowledged dead. It's like me calling a whole group of people n!ggers and expecting them to laugh. You're a big juicy asshole, something I've been noticing for a long time.

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Sorry, Trump propaganda outlets saying he would win just don't count= GSTRING
Except that these altright outlets showed HOW the MSM was wrong, especially in the "oversampling" aspect of the polls. Anyone who is at all interested in the truth - NOT YOU, APPARENTLY- would understand that consistently "oversampling" in one direction is BOUND to generate false numbers. And the pollsters knowing that they were oversampling" and making no attempt to correct their "mistake", and the MSM knowing that the pollsters were continuously introducing bias in their data and STILL presenting it as if it were truth .... It would take someone deliberately trying to manipulate the public .... not that our MSM is EVER trying to push a false narrative, heck no! .... to keep on doing that. And it would take an idiot, of which we seem to have several here on the board, to believe it. And it would take an asshole, of which we seem to have several here on the board, to defend it.

AND THEN YOU DOUBLE DOWN ON STUPID AND ASSHOLE

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WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?[that one or two strikes on a hospital indicates that hospitals are no being deliberately targeted - SIGNY]

So, that's how they're killing so many civilians! Check!= GSTRING



ACCORDING TO WHOM? SNHR? Even THEIR numbers, as biased as they are, indicate that civilians are not being deliberately targeted. How can I say that? Because the number of women and children .... which BTW make up 65% of the population.... represent 20% or less of the deaths.

Yes, it is tragic that civilians die in war. It is especially tragic that the so-called FSA is holding these civilians against their will, as hostages (ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN STATEMENTS). Your buddies, the FSA, and the many-times-renamed al Qaida in Syria, and ISIL ... who are deliberately preventing aid from reaching civilians, and preventing civilian escape .... don't deserve your loyalty.

Why you propagandize on behalf of terrorists in beyond me.



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Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:05 PM

And now for some real news about Syria:

The fighting forces of the Syrian government and its allies are engaged in neighborhood-to-neighborhood on-the-ground fighting, and are advancing on a number of points encircling terrorist-controlled east Aleppo:

You can see the presence of ISIL in the index-finger salute and the occasional ISIL black flag in the background, which can be distinguished from the al Qaeda black flag in that the ISIL black flag has a simplified script and a large white circle with black script inside, while the al Qaeda black flag is very "fancy" script and no white circle:
ISIL FLAG



The many-times renamed and splintered al Qaeda in Syria is also present, under such names as the (Saudi-backed) Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (formerly al Nusra, formerly al Qaeda in Syria), AL QAEDA FLAG ("There is no god but Allah")


and the nearly-defunct Free Syrian Army

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The US IBT considered the emergence of ISIL in 2014 as the beginning of the end for groups like FSA which the US had dubbed “moderate rebels”. The SMC, the formal FSA command structure, slowly disintegrated within Aleppo Governorate from a lack of sources over the course of 2014. ... Abu Yusaf, a high-level commander of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), said in August 2014 that many of the FSA members who had been trained by United States’ and Turkish and Arab military officers were now actually joining ISIL. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

which is tactically indistinguishable from al Qaeda and ISIL in Aleppo.

The Syrian Arab Army and its allies are slowly taking ground from al Qaeda and ISIL in house-to-house fighting. What was once in "rebel" hands ... Tell (Hill) Zuhur, Hanano neighborhood, the Military Academy and the Citadel, is now in government control. Because the fighting is in a densely-developed part of the city, it will be slow. Eastern Aleppo is taking a pounding, but it appears to be mostly artillery. I imagine that at some point, airstrikes and artillery will be ineffective because of the possibility of "friendly fire", and the fighting will devolve to tanks and small-arms fire. This stage can't come too soon, as airstrikes and artillery, no matter how well-targeted, are still inaccurate weapons. There are still four humanitarian corridors marked on the map for fleeing civilians, but people are being prevented from using them.

Congress passed the Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_Syria_Civilian_Protection_Act which is still(!) pushing for a no-fly zone.

Egypt is sending some of its pilots and Generals to support Assad: Now that the tide seems to have turned, it looks like various allied and potentially-allied governments are sending their troops in, mostly (I believe) for training and combat experience, not for real fighting.

Meanwhile the White Helmets (who call themselves the Syrian Civil Defense group, as opposed to the REAL Syrian Civil defense group) stepped into a pile of PR dogshit when it tweeted out the Mannequin Challenge video, which portrayed a very-realistic-looking "rescue" of a man supposedly trapped in rubble from a barrel-bomb. Too bad it was all fake. The "dust" on the man is flour. I have wondered why some of the "victims" in previous stills have had such white dust on them, maybe this is the reason.


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Syria's White Helmets apologize for Mannequin Challenge video
...The nearly one-minute long video has been the subject of criticism on social media. On Wednesday Syria Civil Defence released a statement calling it an "error of judgment".
"This video and the related posts were recorded by RFS media with Syria Civil Defence volunteers, who hop

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Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:10 AM

Again SIG makes the point everyone in Syria is a terrorist, even the children. There's no talking with someone void of empathy and full of shit.

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Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:19 AM

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Again SIG makes the point everyone in Syria is a terrorist, even the children. There's no talking with someone void of empathy and full of shit. = DOUCHBAG


I believe I made the point that they were hostages. As I recall, I said it was tragic.

So OOC, why did you wind up supporting terrorists, THUGR?

I'll tell you why: It's because your moral compass is broken. You judge what is done or said by WHO is doing or saying something, not WHAT they're doing or saying. That primary motivation, which requires that you ALWAYS be the good guy ... or at least feel like you're the good guy ... biases everything you read, see, hear, think, and (especially) everything you feel. Anything that violates that directive of you feeling like "the good guy" must be stamped out, expunged as soon as possible, even if it means killing people in order to do it.

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Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:04 PM

East Aleppo pocket nearly cut in two, al Qaida groups strategically withdrawing from the northern pocket.

"Regime" atrocities in East Aleppo: dead chickens and mannequins

https://southfront.org/fresh-militant-propaganda-claims-civilian-casua
lties-from-russia-assad-airstrikes-shows-mannequins-video
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Monday, November 28, 2016 7:08 PM

The northern portion of east Aleppo is liberated! That latest (unconfirmed) reports say that the last remaining holdout neighborhood - Sheikh Khizir - is surrounded, and that the terrorists are withdrawing to the Old City, which is at the base of The Citadel.

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Local sources say that most of militants have fled to the Old Aleppo. So, the main work is to remove explosive devices and secure the area. Sheikh Khizir will be under the full control of government forces in the coming hours.

https://southfront.org/syrian-army-liberates-northern-part-of-aleppo-c
ity-delivers-devastating-blow-to-militants
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More importantly, the liberation of much of northern east Aleppo has allowed the civilian hostages to flee the fighting

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Last weekend, Syrian government forces delivered a devastating blow to the al-Nusra led militant coalition, known as Jaish al-Fatah, inside the Aleppo city. The Syrian army’s Republican Guard, the Syrian army’s Tiger Forces, the Desert Hawks Brigade, Liwa al-Quds and other pro-government groups liberated the neighborhoods of Hanano, Jabal Badro and Inzarat. They also took control of the Haidariyah Youth Housing, the Ba’ideen Roundabout and the Ba’ideen Square and Ard Hamra and seized a significant part of Al-Sakhur neighborhood.

Kurdish YPG units seized positions in Bustan Basha which had been under control of Sultan Murad militant group.

On November 28, government forces liberated Handariyah and al-Shakhur neighborhoods, encircling Sheikh Khizir.

Local sources say that militants are fleeing their defenses in northeastern Aleppo.

Government forces also attacked Nusra-linked militants in the Sheikh Lufti Neighborhood and in the Marjeh Neighborhood. The most notable gain of Syrian troops in the area is the so-called “Police Hill” (420 m) in the Marjeh Neighborhood. The Police Hill is a key hilltop in Marjeh. Controlling it, the army and its allies will be able to secure the Sheikh Lufti – Marjeh axis.

From Sheikh Lufti government forces are able to pose another threat to Jaish al-Fatah militants – to reach the Aleppo Citadel, splitting the eastern Aleppo pocket into several separated parts.

Mohamad Rafe’, military operations commander of Liwa al-Quds has been killed today during operations to liberate eastern Aleppo.

The government advance allowed thousands of civilians have fled militant-held areas of Aleppo city.

About 1,700 civilians had fled to government-held parts of western Aleppo and about 2,500
to the Kurdish-controlled area of Sheikh Maksoud since the start of the operation, according to the so-called “Syrian Observatory of Human Rights”, a pro-militant ‘non-government’ organization aimed to cover the Syrian conflict.

Syrian news sources broadcasted images of a crowd of civilians including women and children gathered around green buses that are set to pick them up in Masaken Hanano and entering western Aleppo. According to them [Syrian news sources] up to 10,000 civilians have fled from eastern Aleppo so far. Most of them took refuge in government-controlled areas.


https://southfront.org/syrian-army-liberates-northern-part-of-aleppo-c
ity-delivers-devastating-blow-to-militants
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I have heard quotes that the real civilian population on East Aleppo was something like 30,000, not the inflated figure of 250,000 that the UN and western press have kept citing. That 250,000 was the number of ORIGINAL inhabitants, but since the terrorists kept porous borders up until about 1.5 month ago, allowing residents to cross the boundary to find food and medical care, my guess is that many slipped away to "get food", never to return, and that the last inhabitants are the families of the fighters who were under stricter personal control. IF that's the case, roughly a quarter of the trapped civilian population has been freed. I guess I'll keep count of how many are estimated to have fled to other parts of Aleppo, and see if it totals up to about 30,000 as I've been led to expect.


Syria Direct a "pro-rebel"

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Monday, November 28, 2016 9:43 PM

Well, yes you are. The REALITY is, GSTRING, that Syria is full of USA- and NATO-enabled Saudi and Qatari-funded terrorists from everywhere from Tunisia to Chechnya to Afghanistan. They are proxy fighters for the Gulf States' geopolitical goal of eliminating YET ANOTHER secular government and leaving jihadist-filled smoking ruins in their wake. And it's not like I'm speculating in thin air about this, it HAS happened before, more than once.

And just like you were taken in by the propaganda about Qaddafi, you're taken in by the propaganda about Assad. Those civilian deaths that you so firmly "believe" were ALL caused by Assad ... based on numbers pulled out of thin air by SNHR? All of those "brave rebels fighting for freedom" ... who have in reality folded themselves into the extremist forces? Those phantasms form the basis of your delusion.

You and THGUR are both paranoid, and you both have your paranoid delusions. THUGR for example, firmly believes that I'm a Russian, living in Russia. That I was oh so cleverly insinuated on this low-traffic board 13 year ago, to influence 10 people's thoughts about Russia - when Russia wasn't even in the crosshairs of western propaganda!

I think he imagines me with a playbook next to my PC, filled with American phrases that might actually sound like a well-educated but somewhat elderly lady, and my "history" book which reminds me of what I'm supposed to say about myself!

The reality is that I was born near Buffalo NY in the mid 1950s, am female, moved to the LA area in approx 1980, and work in a government regulatory lab with a very diverse international staff including Taiwanese, Syrians, Ethiopians, eastern Europeans etc. Over the years, and over many projects with many people, I've learned a lot about a lot, and I don't mind bringing it here and learning more.

Wow, so clever of those Russkies, to plant me here where I will do no good for the Motherland!



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Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:19 AM

Wow, I guess I hit about nine nerves!




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KPO
Tuesday, November 29, 2016 4:46 PM

Another video that won't play on Signy's PC - The moment a children's hospital in east Aleppo gets bombed:



Nurses in tears as they have to pull premature babies out of incubators to take them to an underground shelter.



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