What are America's interests?
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UPDATED: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 17:48
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No joke..
I'm going to masturbate to Fantasies of Britney Spears when She was 20 years old and Perfect.
Not because She was young and stupid back then, but because She was Young and Perfeckt back then and I would have done anything She asked. She should have been the first Madame President, no joke.
Men are particularly easy to manipulate. Especially White Males.
Every Woman in the RWED seems to want to deny that fact and/or work entirely against it, for better or for worse.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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SECOND - Firstly, Trump's policies are something we should hear from the Trump administration, not something we should hear from a hostile source.
Secondly, I intend to take the discussion in a very different direction. While Trump's policies deserve discussion, I'm going to look at this from a NONPARTISAN POV.
Feel free to bitch and kvetch about Trump all you want - I'm sure there will be PLENTY to bitch about* - but not in this thread. You can start an infinite number of OTHER threads for your purpose of bagging on Trump, 'mkay?
*I'm going to judge Trump's performance on the three things, and ONLY the three things, that I voted for:
1) Ending our pointless wars and making nice with Russia and everybody else. That means reining in the CIA and the State Dept and their endless "interventionism" abroad. And good luck with THAT, Donald!
2) Backing out of the "free trade" agreements that we seem to have negotiated in favor of the transnationals. The only trade agreement that I might be willing to let stand is the WTO ... and maybe not even that.
3) Getting rid of illegal immigration and deporting illegal immigrants.
I don't expect Trump to make a lick of sense on climate change, I doubt VERY much that he will be able to materially increase manufacturing in the USA because his policy is incomplete, and healthcare is going to be a nightmare.
But this whole discussion belongs elsewhere.
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S NEEDS?
Well, Americans are people, are they not? The best description of "people's needs" comes from Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, described as follows:
I think this is pretty complete, but if you can think of anything else, let me know.
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:With what? If it's about Trump, take your post anywhere else. HERE http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60997 for example.
*raises hand* When can I disagree?- G
If it's respectful and on-topic, any time.
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Quote:Why? You seem to have a pretty good knowledge of what that means.
Define "respectful." heh
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You can't put everyone in the same static, hierarchical triangle. FAIL. That's what both parties did. FAIL. That is to me the lazy man's way to try and achieve Understanding.
Well, I agree. People will trade "belonging" for "safety", as when they go to war and risk (and lose) their lives in order to "belong". Even Maslow agreed: his opinion was that all of these are active at any one time. Although I guess it's a truism that if one ceases to exist (physiological) then all of those other needs disappear too; so meeting physiological needs is foundational for all others.
In studying apes there does seem to be a need for "fair". That is missing from Maslow's (not exactly) hierarchy of needs.
Also, people do seem to prefer stimulation, especially if it doesn't involve a lot of actual- yanno- physical effort. We get bored I guess, and that is relieved by storytelling, music, etc. Maybe we really crave learning: that "spark" creates a dopamine rush.
I'm not sure if or how this might fit in, but people need to have some sort of control over their lives. If you put a rat in a cage and shock it painfully at random times in a way that it can't escape, predict, or control, it cowers in a corner and loses its fur and condition. I can't believe that people are any different. "Teaching" and "religion" give us the impression of control, whether we have it or not. Maybe that belongs under "safety" in that we need to ensure our FUTURE safety as well as our present safety.
The thing that Maslow purposefully left out was the motivations of deviants ... sociopaths, psychopaths, etc. Although I don't think that a society SHOULD try to meet the needs of the few at the expense of the many, it certainly needs to recognize that they exist. Although The Death of Doctor Island by Gene Wolfe says otherwise.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Strange Situations make Strange Bedfellows...
It's Strange for me to NOT be with you Sigs.
IMO you have become Insane, and Self Serving.
I'd love to help you, but I really don't care about anybody here that much and never did.
It's just hard to sit back and watch one of the Good Ones become a mindless Ideologue.
Please know that you are now everything I always hated from either side, and God or the Spagetti Monster help us that Trump isn't one of You.
I TRULY hope you come back Sigs
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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AND THE SAME GOES FOR ANYONE WHO KICKS SIGS WHILE SHE'S DOWN.
ANYONE who is hostile to Sigs in this post I will consider a Hostile to Me as well.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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OK, other things not covered by Maslow's needs: Maslow focused on the individual. But the individual can do quite well and even "self actualize" (not sure what that is but ... ok) BUT
The human species would still die out if people didn't reproduce
And the society which sustains these individuals would fail if its mores and memes couldn't be passed down.
So Maslow is limited by the assumption that he is only focusing on the individual. That's as many additions and modifications that I can make to Maslow's theory for now.
"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Should be to increase of wealth and quality of life of Americans regardless of the effects on the rest of the world. Every nation in the world has the same goal for themselves. If the government is NOT serving these goals (such as supporting immigration, foreign wars of aggression, etc...) then it is a clear indication of corruption.
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Quote:Another post and another (inevitable) strawman from second.
1kiki is not acknowledging that 99% of Republicans can't argue convincingly for Trump.
Quote:Has he failed even before taking office? I'd sure like a cite on that.
But wasn't Trump also 1kiki's game changer? Trump would change the way the USA handles foreign policy and save the world from Hillary and WWIII.
Quote:Got a quote on that? I'm pretty sure I never posted that. Or are you still making shit up, as usual?
And Bernie would change the game in domestic policy, according to 1kiki.
Quote:You think democrats voting in the democratic primary = all voters voting in the general election. And because d primary voters = all general election voters, d primary results MUST = general election results. Let me inform you now, that's not true. There's a reason why we don't just have d primaries to pick the next president.
Small footnote: 1kiki might not have noticed, but Bernie lost the Democratic primary by 4 million votes. Hillary is ahead of Trump by a million votes.
Quote:Annnd ... here's second, barreling forward along the same dead-end - quoted to preserve it for posterity.
The crooked electoral college will take away Hillary's victory. I think the college would do the same to Bernie. Never forget, Bernie lost the primary by 4 million votes, Hillary won the general election by a million.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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