What are America's interests?
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UPDATED: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 17:48
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Hey Jack
If you haven't already, how about you put down the bottle and go to bed, OK?
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Quote:1kiki is not acknowledging that 99% of Republicans can't argue convincingly for Trump. But wasn't Trump also 1kiki's game changer? Trump would change the way the USA handles foreign policy and save the world from Hillary and WWIII.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
No wonder your posts are so stupid. You don't understand the 99% people of any party so you couldn't effectively argue a side. And you certainly can't afford any real disruption in the system. Game changers like Bernie are far too threatening to your way of life so you dismissed him out of hand.
And Bernie would change the game in domestic policy, according to 1kiki.
Small footnote: 1kiki might not have noticed, but Bernie lost the Democratic primary by 4 million votes. Hillary is ahead of Trump by a million votes. The crooked electoral college will take away Hillary's victory. I think the college would do the same to Bernie. Never forget, Bernie lost the primary by 4 million votes, Hillary won the general election by a million.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:The Big Banks are celebrating. Why shouldn't Jack get as drunk as the bankers?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Hey Jack
If you haven't already, how about you put down the bottle and go to bed, OK?
It is in America’s Interest that large banks make large profits! Thank you Trump! I will have another drink.
The eight riskiest financial firms saw their market value up $53 billion the first day after Trump's surprise win. Thank you Trump!
http://rooseveltforward.org/trumps-election-immediately-gave-50-billio
n-dollars-wall-street/
New hopes of bank deregulation, and fat profits for Big Pharma, the stock market hit record highs:
The moves partly reflected expectations that a Trump administration would push to scale back financial regulation and increase government spending in a bid to boost economic growth....Thursday’s gains came as the president-elect’s transition team promised to dismantle the Dodd-Frank law, regulation that came out of the financial crisis....Pharmaceutical companies also jumped, with some analysts and investors saying drug-pricing restrictions would have been more likely under Democrat Hillary Clinton. Health-care companies had sold off sharply heading into the election.
www.wsj.com/articles/markets-rise-as-investors-begin-buying-in-to-trum
p-1478766871
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:What a stupid article! Does the author think this is some "hard hitting" opinion-piece??
second . . . your beloved 'democratic' party - whose asshole your mouth has been so firmly pressed against, eating up all the party shit and spewing it back out here - lost . . . You tell ME second - How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly? - KIKI
What you want to read is The whole Democratic Party is now a smoking pile of rubble by Matthew Yglesias. He is a Dem:
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/10/13576488/democratic-party-s
moking-pile-rubble= SECOND
It ignores VAST problems with Democratic party and Democratic policy in favor of some kinder, gentler ... inaccurate ... version of the party's fundamental problems.
To spare you all the tedium of reading the article, is does describe how Democrats have lost the "downballot" vote, depending on Presidential politics "to bequeath a legacy" but allowing everything from Congress to city councils to slip away.
Now, to some extent I agree that the most consequential positions are at the Federal level. Towns, cities, and states can only do a few things: They can fight amongst themselves over the number of available manufacturing jobs by offering even better tax deals than the next city/state over, BUT THEY CAN'T INCREASE THE OVERALL NUMBER OF JOBS. They can decide where they are going to spend their revenues and even borrow money but - in the end- they have to manage their budgets just like any household because - unlike banks or the Federal government, THEY CAN'T PRINT MONEY.
o, given the straightjacket that the smaller political units find themselves in, what is the "Obama legacy"? (And, one should add, the "Clinton legacy" before that?)
The author, Matthew Yglesias lists...
1) "sheltering unauthorized residents" (i.e. illegal immigrants)
2) climate change, and
3) Obamacare
... as Obama's signal accomplishments, his "legacy".
The author NEGLECTS to mention the following further "accomplishments"...
4) endless wars,
5) vast giveaway to financial institutions,
6) promotion of even more "free trade" agreements,
7) systemic party corruption,
8) financial policies designed to promote the top 0.01%, and
9) continued splitting and pandering to various ""victim" interest groups at the expense of an American identity
... as possible reasons for the DNC's poor showing.
Quote:IT DIDN'T. You can quote chapter and verse about unemployment and per-capita gains, but the REALITY is that the Obama administration catered to the very wealthy, and gave everyone else cheap part-time service jobs. All of that talk about recovery was just that: TALK. People experiencing the reality of part-time existence on part-time wages remained unconvinced. As they should.
More broadly, the Obama-Clinton style of liberal incrementalism promised that while it wouldn’t deliver utopia, it would deliver wins and concrete results. And for a while, it did.
Quote:As long as the DNC believes this is a "STRATEGIC" problem and not a problem of GOALS they will continue to fail spectacularly. The author's pandering to the DNC is doing them no favors: They need to be bitch-slapped by reality, and most of them need to step down and be replaced by those who have a real fervor for America.
To make its comeback, what’s left of the Democratic Party establishment — not just its elected officials but the leaders of its aligned institutions and its major donors — need to recognize that a strategy [aiming at the Presidency] they believed was working as recently as Tuesday afternoon has in fact failed quite badly.
But this isn't a Dem v GOP issue, because the Repub party faces the same problem: It's leadership is tied to the wealthy just as much as the Dems, and if the GOP- with Trump as its new mascot- fails to bring meaningful impr
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Quote:Trump has already failed you, Sygnym. All hell should break loose today. It is in America’s Interest that it knows what Trump has planned for Americans.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But this isn't a Dem v GOP issue, because the Repub party faces the same problem: It's leadership is tied to the wealthy just as much as the Dems, and if the GOP- with Trump as its new mascot- fails to bring meaningful improvement to people's lives, all hell will break loose - again.
Though it was obscured from the voters during the campaign, Trump has a very clear stated agenda on finance, and it’s a bonanza of tax cuts and massive deregulation.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13573294/donald-trump-financ
ial-regulation
Similarly, Trump’s plan for economically struggling whites is to drastically reduce their income by signing Paul Ryan’s plan to roll back the social welfare state.
/ www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/9/13572172/donald-trump-white-
working-class
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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AND NOW ... to America's interests.
Definitionally, I argue that "America's interests" are Americans' interests.
Not the interests of the vanishingly tiny but extremely powerful elite, and not the interest of some nation far-away, or of non-citizens within our borders, but the collective interests of the overwhelming majority of American citizens.
Now, we can look at this from the microscopic scale:
1) By looking at the interests of the various interest-groups that we have been so unfortunately divided into and seeing where they overlap and generalizing outward from there,
2) Or we can look at this from a theoretical viewpoint and narrow down to specifics.
I THINK THE FIRST APPROACH IS UNLIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL BY ITSELF. For example, if we start out with the idea that Black Lives Matter, and Women's Pay Matters, and Gay Marriage Matters, what we will wind up is with the truism that ... well, gosh, we should all be treated fairly and equally. Who could argue with that??? But we will STILL be fighting over the scarce resource of "jobs" (albeit more fairly!) and never get to the realization that maybe what we ALL need are better-paying, consequential jobs.
So I'm going to approach this from a theoretical POV, and start with WHAT DO HUMANS NEED? and work my way from there.
I hope you come along for the discussion, I've ended my trolling (which is really boring). Unless YOU start trolling again, in which case this will be a good discussion, spoiled.
And I'm going to ignore SIX's drunken posts, and I hope you do too. Because SIX is an intelligent guy when he isn't drunk, but that only seemed to have lasted for two days.
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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