George R. R. Martin is mourning for America
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UPDATED: Saturday, March 19, 2022 23:44
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I'm a fan of The George Martin, Song of Ice and Fire series as well, Astriana. Tash got me started on them. They're a great read, and I recommend them to one and all. Currently enjoying the 3rd book. 
I have nothing against mentioning color, by the way. Just a guess here. U don't sound like you're black, Hero. If you actually are, I am sincerely sorry... for you. You are very out of touch with your people. Look at the DC vote for president. Overwhelmingly against Bush. The population of DC, almost all black. Those closest to Bush know him best. Matter of fact, you seem out of touch with America, in general. Look at the dissatisfaction and dissent in this thread alone. There is no united America under GW. Also look at the isolation abroad, though it's not complete at present, is growing. (sadly) The world has pulled away from the US and they continue to do so en masse. Check out the news. We are losing more support all the time. Countries that support us now are planning to leave in the very near future. (start of the year, or a few months away.) Do you think I want this to happen? We keep pushing away every country and peace-keeping body that says wait a minute, lets discuss this course of action for a while. Did you notice that @ 3000 reserves were activated the day of the election? Do you think that means we're getting more support? No, we're going to have to endure this war on obscurity with an increasingly smaller allied base. Likely, our enemies will ally against us and the war will be brought to our own soil. Winter is indeed coming. There are 4 times as many Chinese people than the rest of us put together, and they aren't too happy with us. Do you think Korea is happy with us either? We're going to need all the friends we can get. We need to discard our preconceptions that countries with slightly different moral values as America should be turned away and shunned. Just because they didn't support our (excuse me george's) war, doesn't make them something to be thrown away. That's how you make enemies, that's how grudges form and countries eventually go to war with each other. Geeesh, over half the people in America Don't Support the war either. That's not the issue the election was decided upon though. American's are more selfish than that. People, bigoted, scared people, potentially denied rights or money in their own backyard is much more important than a hundred thousand people getting sent to heaven or hell on the other side of the world. It's just too far away for us to care enough. We've voted on it. So congratulations, keep on laughing, maybe it'll keep you sane as you watch the world fall apart around you, or maybe it'll keep you company in your padded cell.
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Inara: Who's winning?
Simon: I can't really tell, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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So, the country will be more or less united under Kerry if he was voted in?
just checking.
Last I looked, half of the country thinks George is an AssMonkey, and the other half thinks Kerry is a Monkey's Ass.
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
So, the country will be more or less united under Kerry if he was voted in?
just checking.
Last I looked, half of the country thinks George is an AssMonkey, and the other half thinks Kerry is a Monkey's Ass.
I don't think I mentioned Kerry. But I see the point you are trying to make. No, I doubt the country would be more united under Kerry or anyone else at this point. Our country has allowed itself to be driven into the ground. The division is deep and probably long-lasting.
Anyway, the point I was making is that division amongst ourselves and shunning our foreign neighbors is the wrong way to go. And that is the way we are going.
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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
So, the country will be more or less united under Kerry if he was voted in?
just checking.
Last I looked, half of the country thinks George is an AssMonkey, and the other half thinks Kerry is a Monkey's Ass.
I don't think I mentioned Kerry. But I see the point you are trying to make. No, I doubt the country would be more united under Kerry or anyone else at this point. Our country has allowed itself to be driven into the ground. The division is deep and probably long-lasting.
Anyway, the point I was making is that division amongst ourselves and shunning our foreign neighbors is the wrong way to go. And that is the way we are going.
I don't think the country is as divided as the media portrays it. Ultimately many of us..those in the middle of the road, share the same values, hopes and dreams..both Liberal and Conservative. The problem is that the far left of the democratic party and the far right of the republican party made it appear as so.
In my view Bush could have been defeated if the Dems had taken a more centrist attitude towards America (much like Clinton did in his 2 terms) rather then allow Hollywood and the media dictate the party platform. They also could've won if they had nominated a far stronger candidate. Kerry was very bad, much like Dukakis and Mondale before him.
To be honest a John McCain or a Joe Lieberman would've been much better for us.
I yearn for the Democrats of old who were strong on defense and strong on social issues. All this BS about stem cells, abortion and protection of Marriage killed any thought of a vote for the Republicans. Though I have to say..I'm still pissed that Schumer got elected again to the senate.
I'm looking forward to '08 and a change.
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I am a soldier stationed in Iraq now and thought I'd give my POV to this little discussion.
1. America is not divided where it counts, sure the politics got bad starting with the lefts 527s (read Soros) a full two years before the election. The right fires back with the SWV adds and it got ugly quick. The media has blown this all out of proportion and it is magnified because of compairson with post 9/11 unity.
2. The doom and gloom talk is utter nonsense, we are winning the war on terror, I know I'm here and the terrorist are here, a much better place for them to be than the hills of western Pennsylvania where my wife and three beautiful doughters would be defenceless against them. Make no mistake Saddam was a terrorist sponser, enabled by France and Germanies blatent disregard for UN sanctions. Although many Sunnis were very fond of the "oil for Palaces" program the UN ran.
3. If this were Westros Bush would be a Stark and Kerry a Frey.
"Diplomacy is utterly useless when there is no force behind it; the diplomat is the servant, not the master of the soldier." THEODORE ROOSEVELT
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Originally posted by SlackMasterActual:
I am a soldier stationed in Iraq now and thought I'd give my POV to this little discussion.
1. America is not divided where it counts, sure the politics got bad starting with the lefts 527s (read Soros) a full two years before the election. The right fires back with the SWV adds and it got ugly quick. The media has blown this all out of proportion and it is magnified because of compairson with post 9/11 unity.
2. The doom and gloom talk is utter nonsense, we are winning the war on terror, I know I'm here and the terrorist are here, a much better place for them to be than the hills of western Pennsylvania where my wife and three beautiful doughters would be defenceless against them. Make no mistake Saddam was a terrorist sponser, enabled by France and Germanies blatent disregard for UN sanctions. Although many Sunnis were very fond of the "oil for Palaces" program the UN ran.
3. If this were Westros Bush would be a Stark and Kerry a Frey.
"Diplomacy is utterly useless when there is no force behind it; the diplomat is the servant, not the master of the soldier." THEODORE ROOSEVELT
Keep safe friend. God bless you and all the rest of the Men and women over there. We are keeping you in our hearts and prayers.
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I offer you another "God bless you" and plenty more prayers.
Happy Veterans' Day from a former garri-trooper in the 701st M.I. Brigade.
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May God be with you and yours and all our Serviceman.
Do not let the Doom and Gloom and Conspiricist crowd get you down. They are just more vocal and enjoy stroking their ego every chance they get. They will always be with us.
175th Assault Helicopter Company, First Aviation Brigade,
Viet Nam.
'Well, here I am'
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Slackmaster
Another old vet says 'keep your head down, bro'.
MACV Team III, Hue, Vietnam.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Happy vets day to everyone. Iraq sucks, i know, but soon you'll be back home
Cpl D. Sloan
US Army
3rd Infantry Div.
And Melkor fled before the laughter of Tulkas, and hated him ever after
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