What are America's interests?
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It's a question that I've asked over and over, that nobody has answered.
For the purposes of definition, "America" is the land inside the borders of the self-defined nation-state of the United States of America, and "Americans" are citizens of that nation.
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Quote:And now you have your answer: Trump campaigned against lobbyists. Now they’re on his transition team.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's a question that I've asked over and over, that nobody has answered.
For the purposes of definition, "America" is the land inside the borders of the self-defined nation-state of the United States of America, and "Americans" are citizens of that nation.
After campaigned against the corrupt power of special interests, he is filling his transition team with the very same people he has complained have too much clout in Washington: corporate consultants and lobbyists:
1) Jeffrey Eisenach, a consultant who has worked for years on behalf of Verizon and other telecommunications clients, is the head of the team that is helping to pick staff members at the Federal Communications Commission.
2) Michael Catanzaro, a lobbyist whose clients include Devon Energy and Encana Oil and Gas, holds the “energy independence” portfolio. Mr. Catanzaro’s client list is a who’s who of major corporate players.
3) Michael Torrey, a lobbyist who runs a firm that has earned millions of dollars helping food industry players such as the American Beverage Association and the dairy giant Dean Foods, is helping set up the new team at the Department of Agriculture.
4) Michael McKenna, another lobbyist helping to pick key administration officials who will oversee energy policy, has a client list that this year has included the Southern Company, one of the most vocal critics of efforts to prevent climate change by putting limits on emissions from coal-burning power plants.
5) Martin Whitmer is overseeing “transportation and infrastructure” for the Trump transition. He is the chairman of a Washington law firm whose lobbying clients include the Association of American Railroads and the National Asphalt Pavement Association.
6) David Malpass, the former chief economist at Bear Stearns, the Wall Street investment bank that collapsed during the 2008 financial crisis, is overseeing the “economic issues” portfolio of the transition, as well as operations at the Treasury Department. Mr. Malpass now runs a firm called Encima Global, which sells economic research to institutional investors and corporate clients.
7) Dan DiMicco, a former chief executive of the steelmaking company Nucor, who now serves on the board of directors of Duke Energy, is heading the transition team for the Office of the United States Trade Representative.
Trump’s spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, declined a request for comment, as did nearly a dozen corporate executives, consultants and lobbyists serving on his transition team, which was outlined in a list distributed widely in Washington on Thursday.
www.documentcloud.org/documents/3217279-2016-11-10-Transition-Team-Lis
t.html
One of the reasons you had such anger among voters is people rigging the system, gaming the system. This represents more of the same. Voters responded to Trump’s vow to restore the voices of forgotten people, ones drowned out by big business and Wall Street.
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SECOND: ANOTHER second-hand post from a second-rate thinker??? Why don't you post YOUR OWN thoughts instead of someone else's? Or are you so thoroughly propagandized that you don't have any of your own?
Donald Trump was elected. And the fact that you keep bitching and whining about it just proves that you hate America and are trying to bring down its democratic institutions. So good on YOU, commie troll!!
BUT, if you can manage to post YOUR OWN THOUGHTS (if you have any) and can manage NOT to bitch about Trump (like you do endlessly) and actually address THE TOPIC then maybe we can have a discussion!
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:There is always new facts about Trump because he energetically creates new atrocities. That is not true about you. I've read your thoughts. Why are you always repeating yourself? Are you stuck in a loop?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: ANOTHER second-hand post from a second-rate thinker??? Why don't you post YOUR OWN thoughts instead of someone else's? Or are you so thoroughly propagandized that you don't have any of your own?
Donald Trump was elected. And the fact that you keep bitching and whining about it just proves that you hate America and are trying to bring down its democratic institutions. So good on YOU, commie troll!!
BUT, if you can manage to post YOUR OWN THOUGHTS (if you have any) and can manage NOT to bitch about Trump (like you do endlessly) and actually address THE TOPIC then maybe we can have a discussion!
For a change, please have a new series of thoughts in your head because America is not interested in the old you. Maybe talk about Firefly and post something related to it that other fans (and America!) are interested in. Here are two examples I did this month:
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www.fireflyfans.net/bluesun.aspx?bid=24872
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SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE: THIS IS NOT THE THREAD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP.
I REALIZE THAT YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR AMERICA-HATING PROPAGANDA INTO AS MANY THREADS AS POSSIBLE. YOU FIND IT SO DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT AMERICA WITH PRIDE AND CARE BECAUSE YOU ARE ONLY CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN GROUP OF NEO-LIBERALOIDS. THAT IS WHY I'M NOT RESPONDING TO YOUR POSTS, COMRADE TROLL.
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:Isn't your thread titled What are America's Interests?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE: THIS IS NOT THE THREAD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP.
I REALIZE THAT YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR AMERICA-HATING PROPAGANDA INTO AS MANY THREADS AS POSSIBLE. YOU FIND IT SO DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT AMERICA WITH PRIDE AND CARE BECAUSE YOU ARE ONLY CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN GROUP OF NEO-LIBERALOIDS. THAT IS WHY I'M NOT RESPONDING TO YOUR POSTS, COMRADE TROLL.
It is in America's Interest to not delay Trump's trial:
Trump seeks to delay trial until after inauguration
Trump wants to delay the federal fraud trial he faces here Nov. 28 until after his inauguration in January, his attorney Daniel Petrocelli told Judge Gonzalo Curiel on Thursday.
Petrocelli said he would make a formal request to delay the trial by Monday. After court Thursday, Petrocelli told reporters Trump wanted to testify in person before his election as president.
"Now he’s going to have to take into account whether that’s the best use of his time, and he has to weigh his desire to be here against the needs of the country right now," Petrocelli said. It’s hard to say a sitting president is less busy or more expendable than a president-elect. Petrocelli did not have the balls to request the trial be delayed until Trump is out of office in eight years.
Judge Curiel said he understood and said it would be wise for the two sides to settle the case, a class-action fraud lawsuit involving Trump and his now-defunct Trump University.
At Curiel's suggestion, Petrocelli said he was open to the help of another federal judge, Jeffrey Miller, in trying to find a way to settle before trial.
"I can tell you right now I'm all ears," Petrocelli told Curiel.
Curiel didn't say how he would rule but said he expects the case to last into mid-December if it starts as scheduled. An attorney for the plaintiffs, Jason Forge, told USA TODAY after the hearing that he didn't think the request for a delay got any traction with Curiel.
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SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE:
1) First of all, just because you didn't supply a link doesn't mean that your post is your own writing. I don't believe you wrote that. I doubt you can respond INTELLIGENTLY to any questions about that post because it is not a product of your own mind.
2) "It is in America's Interest to not delay Trump's trial"
Is it? Why? How? WHO is this good for, and who is it not good for?
My god, you have the focus of a flea. The fact that you are willing to ignore and dismiss the interests of roughly half of Americans was the reason why you Hitlery-ites lost the election, and demonstrates once again that you hate America, and furthermore, you hate an awful lot of Americans. So good on you, comrade-toll, for hating democracy!
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:It is in America's Interests (the title of Signym's thread) to know before Trump is inaugurated if he is a fraud or not. If he loses the case, he is a fraud. If he settles the case, he is afraid of being proven a fraud. If he delays the case, there will be a delay before America realizes Trump is a fraud. The only honorable action is for Trump to testify without delay and prove he is not a fraud. America needs to know who Trump is, as decided by a Court.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECONDHAND/SECONDRATE:
1) First of all, just because you didn't supply a link doesn't mean that your post is your own writing. I don't believe you wrote that. I doubt you can respond INTELLIGENTLY to any questions about that post because it is not a product of your own mind.
2) "It is in America's Interest to not delay Trump's trial"
Is it? Why? How? WHO is this good for, and who is it not good for?
My god, you have the focus of a flea. The fact that you are willing to ignore and dismiss the interests of roughly half of Americans was the reason why you Hiltery-ites lost the election, and demonstrates once again that you hate America, and furthermore, you hate an awful lot of Americans. So good in you, comrade-toll, for hating democracy!
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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It took all of 4 posts until trolled: = GSTRING
Oh, my!
You hate being trolled?
You can dish it out but ya can't take it?
Well, suck it up, ya crybaby!
This, from the guy whose thread wound up in troll country.
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