Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now, here is one of the reasons why you are all remarkably unintelligent: You refuse to acknowledge anything that you disagree with; and so you have been and will continue to live in a bubble into which unpleasant and unwelcome facts will never penetrate.
Well, you are the expert when it comes to refusing to acknowledge.
I see as usual you have run from my questions.
Let me jog your memory:
SIGNYM: Curiously, the person whom YOU name as the "butcher of Debaltseve"...
Wrong again. I never named anyone as the "butcher of Debaltseve."
I referenced Debaltseve because it was a recent example of a Russian war hack in which they provided "safe corridors" for encircled enemy fighters only to slaughter them once they tried to use them.
"The failure to anticipate and respond to the separatist's textbook encirclement at Debaltseve has drawn instant comparisons to August's battle of Ilovaisk, which followed a direct Russian military intervention and forced Mr Poroshenko to sue for the peace deal that produced the first Minsk ceasefire agreement in September.
That defeat lives in infamy amongst Ukrainian soldiers, media, and the general public as an example of betrayal by their own generals, who failed to order a retreat or organise a counter attack, and the Russian-backed forces who ambushed a column retreating through an agreed "safe corridor," killing hundreds."
Personally, I say attaboy Russia, all is fair in war, but don't think no one noticed. (I don't understand why anyone would trust any Russian with a bent farthing, let alone ones with rockets, planes and tanks). News travels SIGGY. No doubt the people of Aleppo know about this neat murderous trap and would rather stay put.
I will repeat.....
GSTring.... Hah.
I like that :)
WE are the WAR CRIMINALS in Syria.
U.S.
Period.
EDITED TO ADD:
It is possibly Sigs that the fiercely partisan chattel on this planet might recognize us and reject common sense...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I actually kind of like G though.
We don't have to make up a story for his or her family why he or she died.
THGRII is annoying though.
What are you idiots being paid for?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now, here is one of the reasons why you are all remarkably unintelligent: You refuse to acknowledge anything that you disagree with; and so you have been and will continue to live in a bubble into which unpleasant and unwelcome facts will never penetrate.
Well, you are the expert when it comes to refusing to acknowledge.
I see as usual you have run from my questions.
Let me jog your memory:
SIGNYM: Curiously, the person whom YOU name as the "butcher of Debaltseve"...
Wrong again. I never named anyone as the "butcher of Debaltseve."
I referenced Debaltseve because it was a recent example of a Russian war hack in which they provided "safe corridors" for encircled enemy fighters only to slaughter them once they tried to use them.
"The failure to anticipate and respond to the separatist's textbook encirclement at Debaltseve has drawn instant comparisons to August's battle of Ilovaisk, which followed a direct Russian military intervention and forced Mr Poroshenko to sue for the peace deal that produced the first Minsk ceasefire agreement in September.
That defeat lives in infamy amongst Ukrainian soldiers, media, and the general public as an example of betrayal by their own generals, who failed to order a retreat or organise a counter attack, and the Russian-backed forces who ambushed a column retreating through an agreed "safe corridor," killing hundreds."
Personally, I say attaboy Russia, all is fair in war, but don't think no one noticed. (I don't understand why anyone would trust any Russian with a bent farthing, let alone ones with rockets, planes and tanks). News travels SIGGY. No doubt the people of Aleppo know about this neat murderous trap and would rather stay put.
I will repeat.....
GSTring.... Hah.
I like that :)
WE are the WAR CRIMINALS in Syria.
U.S.
Period.
EDITED TO ADD:
It is possibly Sigs that the fiercely partisan chattel on this planet might recognize us and reject common sense...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
One nut quoting another does not make a good or valid point. So why don't you answer G's question?
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Except that I answered his question in exactly the same way that GSTRING made his insinuation: with another question. Here is the answer, in plain language:
GSTRING asked the "When did you stop beating your wife?" kind of question. Everyone knows that is called a LOADED QUESTION, which is a (dishonest) rhetorical trick. In fact, it is SO common, and so commonly recognized for what it is, that if you do a search for "When did you stop beating your wife", the first thing that pops up is this Wikipedia reference:
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A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt). Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda. he traditional example is the question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, they will admit to having a wife and having beaten her at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and in this case an entrapment, because it narrows the respondent to a single answer, and the fallacy of many questions has been committed. The fallacy relies upon context for its effect: the fact that a question presupposes something does not in itself make the question fallacious. Only when some of these presuppositions are not necessarily agreed to by the person who is asked the question does the argument containing them become fallacious. Hence the same question may be loaded in one context, but not in the other. For example, the previous question would not be loaded if it was asked during a trial in which the defendant has already admitted to beating his wife.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
GSTRING discovered what HE thought was a clever new approach which would allow him to make a (false) accusation without being labeled a liar, but it was just a timeworn rhetorical fallacy. But that's GSTRING: always taking the dishonest way, when he can!
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:I didn't answer the question because that's not what you asked. You concocted some phantom Russian General and asked me about him. Why should I address your fantasies?
Actually, it's a very simple question, one you keep answering with avoidance. You can't bring herself to admit that Russia has used the bait of "safe corridors" before to trap and murder opposing forces. Why is that? You should be proud!
Now, in order to show that what you said is true, you have to demonstrate - not just insinuate, or in this case accuse, but PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT
1) It occurred.
2) It was "RUSSIA" who attacked the retreating soldiers.
And in order to make it relevant to THIS discussion, you also have to PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT
3) It is occurring in Aleppo.
Since I've supplied you with three very much on-the-ground informational websites, it should be easy.
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Only hospital in besieged Madaya closes due to lack of supplies, residents still dying from malnutrition - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/this-makeshift-hospit
al-hung-on-for-4-years-during-syrias-war-now-its-closing/2016/11/03/2d9df860-9fe0-11e6-8864-6f892cad0865_story.html
"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."
Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521
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Quote:No. I don't. But since it is so well known, it shouldn't be too difficult to find the evidence for me.
you know exactly what I'm discussing and how Russia's action in Debaltseve are known = safe zones are traps.
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Quote:Yes it's just terrible that I insist on evidence that something happened! I suppose I should just take your word for it!
*snort* - the old "evidence" dodge.
Quote:Where did you post it? I don't recall ever seeing anything from you on the topic. Believe it or not I don't read all of your posts, so you'll have to at least link your previous info.
What pray tell would satisfy you in terms of "evidence" (this should be good). You mean more sources than I posted?
Quote:What good does THAT do? Countries like Ukraine and Belarus are awash with Soviet-made equipment; their armories are full of it.
Actual bomb fragments?
Quote:You have videos of the event? I doubt it.
Videos?
Quote:I doubt that you have this too.
Testimony from Russian soldiers? Quotes from Russian officers?
Quote:Quite honestly, there was only one video that was brought forth that I thought was worth anything. I said so at the time, and it had nothing to do with Debaltseve.
We did that with Russia Invades Ukraine and you denied everything - so why would I do that again?
I don't think you have ANYTHING to support your conjecture. You're refusing to post evidence, not because you don't want to but because you can't. Wikipedia has this to say:
Quote:Sounds familiar! Kind of like the "rebels" in east Aleppo!
DPR commander Eduard Basurin said that he would provide a corridor to allow Ukrainian troops to lay down their weapons and leave Debaltseve.[96] Armed Forces spokesman Vladislav Seleznyov said that this was unacceptable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Debaltseve
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yes it's just terrible that I insist on evidence that something happened! I suppose I should just take your word for it!
*snort* - the old "evidence" dodge.Quote:Where did you post it? I don't recall ever seeing anything from you on the topic. Believe it or not I don't read all of your posts, so you'll have to at least link your previous info.
What pray tell would satisfy you in terms of "evidence" (this should be good). You mean more sources than I posted?Quote:What good does THAT do? Countries like Ukraine and Belarus are awash with Soviet-made equipment; their armories are full of it.
Actual bomb fragments?Quote:You have videos of the event? I doubt it.
Videos?Quote:I doubt that you have this too.
Testimony from Russian soldiers? Quotes from Russian officers?Quote:Quite honestly, there was only one video that was brought forth that I thought was worth anything. I said so at the time, and it had nothing to do with Debaltseve.
We did that with Russia Invades Ukraine and you denied everything - so why would I do that again?
I don't think you have ANYTHING to support your conjecture. You're refusing to post evidence, not because you don't want to but because you can't. Wikipedia has this to say:Quote:Sounds familiar! Kind of like the "rebels" in east Aleppo!
DPR commander Eduard Basurin said that he would provide a corridor to allow Ukrainian troops to lay down their weapons and leave Debaltseve.[96] Armed Forces spokesman Vladislav Seleznyov said that this was unacceptable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Debaltseve
The point you conveniently miss SIG is that those of us who post in these threads always provided you evidence. You then ignore the evidence or post something ridicules. Another way you and 1kiki get around the facts is through fallacy of relative privation. Dismissing an argument or complaint due to the existence of more important problems in the world. There isn't anything the two of you do that we are not aware of.
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Quote:No. Especially not you. You have, as I recall, NEVER provided "evidence". Your sole topic here seems to be that I'm Russian. And since I have very good information that I'm not, and you have no information about me whatsoever, I can say with confidence that almost all of your posts are 100% lies. And this last post of yours was just another lie.
The point you conveniently miss SIG is that those of us who post in these threads always provided you evidence.
Now, AFA the SYRIAN PROXY WAR, do you have anything to say?
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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