Farscape or SG-1

POSTED BY: JenDandy
UPDATED: Friday, November 5, 2004 05:21
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Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:06 AM

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Originally posted by Spacefille:
As for Farscape, I've watched about a half a season of various episodes and I just can't get into it at all. I do agree that it is very innovative, which is nice to see, but a huuuuge drawback is the fact that I can't stand approximately half of the main characters on there. Also, I don't know if this is a factor, but I don't find Crichton hot, unlike most of my female friends. And admittedly, if one isn't drooling over Crichton, there isn't much else on that show for the women to look at if you know what I mean. Lots of beautiful women for the men, however. ;)

You gave me quite the image - put Captain Tightpants on my left and Crichton on my right. It would be a tennis match of drooling!

Not to continue the tennis analogy, but Love/Love - I've come to the conclusion that I love Firefly and Farscape for similar reasons. They both have amazing universes populated with wonderfully written and performed characters. Also both of the shows can plunge you emotionally to the depths of despair with the characters and then dust you off and set you to rights again with the most wonderful sense of humor.

I hope to work my way through any and all science fiction shows out there. I haven't seen SG1 or Andromeda yet.

LTNOWIS

Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:41 AM

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Also I noticed that someone mentioned how SG is the here and now. Well with Farscape, The main character is from the here and now and he makes a lot of references, to current pop culture (and he's a Buffy fan)

Yeah, I kinda thought someone would correct me about this or something. Not that this makes what I said any less true. With Stargate, the fate of the Earth is at stake. Setting-wise, at least, it does feel very real.

Of course, people have said that it's plot driven, has shallow characters, etc. I think I actually value exciting plots and complex, intricate universes over deep, continually developing characters. It’s like I said to my dad, about Lost: In real life, not everyone is an interesting person, and not everyone has a back-story. Likewise, people will do things that are out of character in real life. For me, Stargate just appeals to me. Every episode leaves me reflecting on. Whenever I’m depressed I can just think “Damn, I really love Stargate,” and marvel at the Stargate universe. Or Star Wars, or D &D. Firefly, despite its transcendently spectacular stories, does not have a rich, well developed universe. Part of this is due to its tragically early cancellation, but without aliens, I don't know if it ever would've been that achieved that level.

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First off I've never seen a whole ep SG1. I choose not to. For me I'm not a fan of the American military going off doing science fictiony things. That's just me.

I respect that. I frankly can’t understand that point of view, but whatever. It’s not like I’m super-rational either. However, I think that you’re not really qualified to judge SG1, if you haven’t seen all of an episode.

Like I said, I’ll check out Farscape eventually. As soon as I’ve watched every Stargate episode.

AX

Sunday, October 24, 2004 11:21 PM

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It’s like I said to my dad, about Lost: In real life, not everyone is an interesting person, and not everyone has a back-story. Likewise, people will do things that are out of character in real life.

I strongly disagree with your first comment. Everyone has a backstory--you may not think so, but everyone has a story to tell somewhere in their life. We are all made of moments, and yeah maybe they aren't all that big, but they're real and they are what makes us who we are.

As for the thing about people doing things out of character. Well, yeah, of course that's true. We aren't robots, but if it's really a show with the in-depth developing characters like you're talking about then there will be moments when the characters don't do what you would think. Rygel is a great example of this on Farscape, but it's true of all of them at one moment or another. That unpredictablity is one of the things I really love about the show.

IDEFIX

Monday, October 25, 2004 12:58 PM

and here I am again.
now I've watched the first season of Stargate and then some EPs and I'm not gonna stop watching anytime soon as long as it's not getting worse. but it is in no way comparable to Farscape. it's not necessarily worse but it's so entirely different.

I love this thread becaue it's going on forever and everyone says what they think and feel and it's not degenerated into a shouting match about peoples intelligence yet, so I'd say we browncoats rock.

about the shows again: I think it's plot-driven vs. character-driven but even more so it seems to be mind vs. heart. SG1 is a lot like Star Trek Next Generation I think. it's a bunch of people exploring space and trying to do good for the people they meet and for themselves. it's plot driven and it's about getting you to think about the 'problem of the week'. Farscape on the other hand is about a bunch of fugitives running for their lives and trying to be happy whenever they can. both crews save the world or the universe on occasion but it's not the focus, that would be more B5 I think. Farscape tries to make you feel for the characters, not think about the moral ambiguities of their decisions or discuss it with your friends. it just makes you cry and then it makes you laugh and then it makes you insanely happy for just a second and you're speechless because of it all.

the "like SG1" but "love Farscape" analogy hits home for me too. and it's not about one being better than the other but more about one being emotional and one being rational.

and thanks to all of you for making me watch SG1, I really enjoy it so far.

Idefix

LTNOWIS

Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:21 AM

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I strongly disagree with your first comment. Everyone has a backstory--you may not think so, but everyone has a story to tell somewhere in their life. We are all made of moments, and yeah maybe they aren't all that big, but they're real and they are what makes us who we are.

But does it qualify as a "backstory" if it's not that compelling or dramatic? I agree that everyone has a story, but it might not be a big dramatic thing like "Lost" has been having. Not that everyone needs a big, complex origin. Wash didn't really, and he's a great character. I guess I kinda misspoke earlier.

I agree with Idefix's statement that SG1 vs. Farscape is like Mind vs. heart. I, on the other hand, often prefer the mind element of sci-fi to the character elements, especially in low-characterization stories like Heinlein. I think that it's sometimes more work to watch a story like Firefly, where there are convoluted, deep character issues underneath the more immediate plot issues. Each SG1 episode is fairly simple and bounded; that's both a good and bad thing.

Anyway, I do seriously intend to give Farscape a chance, based on this thread.

AX

Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:31 AM

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But does it qualify as a "backstory" if it's not that compelling or dramatic? I agree that everyone has a story, but it might not be a big dramatic thing like "Lost" has been having. Not that everyone needs a big, complex origin. Wash didn't really, and he's a great character. I guess I kinda misspoke earlier.

Well, I think it does count as backstory--actually I think I'd agree with you that it shouldn't be big and complex. It's subtle details that I enjoy(Wash is a great example). I haven't seen Lost yet, so I was mostly just refering to other things I've seen. It may very well be that you're right, and Lost does go overboard.

BANDANAGIRL

Friday, November 5, 2004 5:21 AM

Hello I've come back. You know one day I'll try Stargate. I will, when I can find it. Just to say I sat through a whole ep. I must say before Farscape I was a HUGE Star Trek fan, it just started to die out for me when Voyager started. I would like to say that over time there is a huge plot thing going on with Farscape which starts about halfway through season one up to and including the mini series. Thaere are also many other real life moral issues things that Farscape deals with which can cause a whole ton of discussion. the main one is

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Weapons of Mass Destruction. Imagine if only one guy figured out Nukes and everyone was on the brink of war looking for an advantage. That's where John is. Considering the current political situation I think this is a really current issue. Also there's morals in the middle of Season three, things start to get really murky. Are John and crew the good guys? Is scorpy the bad guy? Whose really doing the right thing? It's not black and white. I love the shades of grey

THere are some big ethical issues with Farscape and there are always consequences for your actions. Anyway, I'm glad this thread is still going. Also if there are any Candians who get the SPACE we'd love to have more browncoats hanging out on the space board forum

http://community.spacecast.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=1&su
bmit=Go

I also think after the Serenity movie comes out Browncoats will have some stuff in common with how scapers are feeling with the mini right now.

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