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What our Russians are up to...

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 5:01 AM

You know how our Russian trolls have been all about calling Hillary a war-monger, despite the fact that she is an experienced diplomat who has met with and peacefully negotiated with leaders from just about every nation? Despite Hillary's years of experience working with many different types of people, her patience in the face of decades of attacks from people in her own country who are dead set on making her an enemy, our little sigkik wants us to believe that Hillary is eager for nothing more than all out WW3.

Actually, it's quite stunning that the trolls use this criticism while also accusing Hillary of "playing both sides", of trying to please the "little people" as well as Wall Street. Say, isn't that what politicians and diplomats are supposed to do? Make compromises serving as many people as possible?

And why would someone whose MO is to try to please everyone be all into starting a war?

Well, my friends, it's clear where the trolls' marching orders come from. This is why they have been pushing that war monger thing so hard.


Putin Ally Tells Americans: Vote Trump or Face Nuclear War

by Reuters

MOSCOW — Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington.

By contrast, Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia's parliamentary election last month.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-ally-tells-americans-vote-trum
p-or-face-nuclear-war-n665376



Putin threatens nuclear war after sending his trolls out to preemptively place the blame on Hillary.

Welcome to the modern age of information warfare.

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:26 AM

I have been all over 1kiki and SIG since I first joined this site. I realized right away they were bashing America and our allies relentlessly while defending Putin and his allies. They do this with lies and deflection ( a twist or aberration especially a perverse or abnormal way of judging or acting ) when posting their version of the truth.



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Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:54 AM

Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war
Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:35pm EDT
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-russian-trump-idUSKCN12C28Q



MOSCOW (Reuters) - Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington.

By contrast, Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia's parliamentary election last month.

Many Russians regard Zhirinovsky as a clownish figure who makes outspoken statements to grab attention but he is also widely viewed as a faithful servant of Kremlin policy, sometimes used to float radical opinions to test public reaction.

"Relations between Russia and the United States can't get any worse. The only way they can get worse is if a war starts," said Zhirinovsky, speaking in his huge office on the 10th floor of Russia's State Duma, or lower house of parliament.

"Americans voting for a president on Nov. 8 must realise that they are voting for peace on Planet Earth if they vote for Trump. But if they vote for Hillary it's war. It will be a short movie. There will be Hiroshimas and Nagasakis everywhere."

Zhirinovsky's comments coincide with deep disagreements between Washington and Moscow over Syria and Ukraine and after the White House last week accused Russia of a campaign of cyber attacks against Democratic Party organisations.

Even as WikiLeaks released another trove of internal documents from Clinton’s campaign on Wednesday, Putin insisted his country was not involved in an effort to influence the U.S. presidential election.

THE RUSSIAN TRUMP?

Zhirinovsky likes to shock liberal public opinion and he has frequently heaped scorn on the West, which he and other Russian nationalists regard as decadent, hypocritical and corrupted by political correctness.

His combative style, reminiscent of Trump's, ensures him plenty of television air time and millions of votes in Russian elections, often from the kind of blue-collar workers who are the bedrock of the U.S. Republican candidate's support.

Zhirinovsky once proposed blocking off mostly Muslim southern Russia with a barbed wire fence, echoing Trump's call for a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico.

Zhirinovsky, who said he met Trump in New York in 2002, revels in his similarities with the American businessman - they are the same age, favour coarse, sometimes misogynistic language and boast about putting their own country first. Zhirinovsky has even said he wants a DNA test to see if he is related to Trump.

But unlike Trump, a billionaire real estate developer who casts himself as the anti-establishment candidate in the U.S. presidential race with no past political experience, Zhirinovsky is a consummate political insider who has sat in the Duma for more than two decades.

Putin has also praised Trump as "very talented", while the Republican candidate has said the Kremlin boss is a better leader than U.S. President Barack Obama. Clinton has accused Trump of being too cosy with Putin and questioned his business interests in Russia.

In other comments that have delighted Moscow, Trump has questioned the value of NATO for Washington, has spoken ambiguously about Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea and suggested that the United States under his leadership would adopt a more isolationist foreign policy.

"He (Trump) won't care about Syria, Libya and Iraq and why an earth should America interfere in these cou

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:32 AM

The Russian's are finding they can't hide. And let this be a lesson to all countries. If you don't want the Russians interfering in your elections. You better speak up. Because there is so much proof 1kiki won't make an appearance.

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:23 PM

It is more likely the Age of Misinformation, as well as cyber espionage and
all-out hacking.

People tend to forget that Putin was a KGB agent and worked in intelligence and counterintelligence. Hmmmm, could that prove to be useful to a man like
Putin? I wonder!


SGG

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:23 PM

It is more likely the Age of Misinformation, as well as cyber espionage and
all-out hacking.

People tend to forget that Putin was a KGB agent and worked in intelligence and counterintelligence. Hmmmm, could that prove to be useful to a man like
Putin? I wonder!


SGG

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:24 PM

Thanks for posting M4P


SGG

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:09 PM

I read the title and I thought .... "Oh, what ARE the Russians up to?" I thought
it was news about, yanno, Russians. Then I found out it was supposed to be about me and KIKI! You guys are ludicrous. I had to look up Zhirinovsky to find out who he is. Apparently, he's a member of the Duma, elected as part of an opposition party. Not sure where he stands in relation to Putin, but he is a populist who claims that DNA testing shows he is related to Trump.

I guess!




Not wrong about the "Russian invasion" ... say, GSTRING, how many troops does it take to make an invasion, anyway? Three? Four?

Had NO stand on Russian and athletes doping, since I was 100% unfamiliar with the topic.

I know what the Investigation concluded about MH17, and unless/until I hear robust evidence otherwise, that is what happened. Still, I'm disappointed with the lack of evidence. There was too much they could have collected and didn't; it would have made their case much stronger.

Whether I'm right or wrong about Hillary is yet to be shown, but there is a lot of evidence showing Hillary's desire for war, including her votes AND her current campaign. She will never be able to have a reasonable diplomatic relationship with Russia since she has used them as a hobby=horse for her campaign.



MAL4, you have reached new depths of irrationality. I thought you prided yourself on being intelligent, right? What you're doing is called "guilt by association", and just bc someone says something an I say something doesn't make it wrong - in fact, we both may be right and YOU may be wrong.



And what is with this anti-Russian hysteria, anyway? My god, you people are suggestible! All anyone has to do is push a button and "Noriega is a drug runner!" "Saddam has WMD!" "Qaddafi is massacring his own people!" Wow, you people panic over nothing.

None of you has managed to answer the question:
WHAT ARE AMERICAN INTERESTS and
HOW DOES RUSSIA THREATEN THEM?

Now, I personally think I'm making a better case for "American interests" than YOU are, because that's what I'm doing: arguing for America's interests. I have no idea what YOU'RE doing ... arguing for America's banks? America's elites? International elites? If you had stopped to think about answering those two questions, you might not have made such terrible mistakes in the past.




Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:42 PM

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not wrong about the "Russian invasion" ... say, GSTRING, how many troops does it take to make an invasion, anyway? Three? Four?




It's funny how SIG deflects from the fact that Russia had twenty thousand troops in Crimea before they turned their guns on the Ukrainians. And rock solid evidence of many more flooding across the Ukrainian border from Russia with their unit identifications removed.

Funny how insurgents poured in from Russia with all manor of trucks, uniforms, guns and supplies. Aye comrade SIG.

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:59 PM

"The bombing of Serbs, who were our allies in both world wars, was a big mistake,” Trump told the Serbian weekly magazine Nedeljnik for an article published on its website Thursday. “Serbians are very good people. Unfortunately, the Clinton administration caused them a lot of harm, but also throughout the Balkans, which they made a mess out of."

....Eric Gordy, professor in Southeast European Politics at University College London, told Newsweek Trump’s words echo the tactic used by the Russian government to cultivate support among Serbs. “The most obvious interpretation of his statement is that it is another sign of alignment with Russia,” he says. “To be honest, this kind of statement is usually more a symbolic attempt for Russian politicians to drum up resentment towards the U.S.,” Gordy explains.
www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-apologises-serbia-yugoslavia-bombing-509
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Why did Trump suddenly decide to talk about the NATO bombing of Serbia? I figure Trump has three good reasons: (a) it takes attention away from Gropegate, (b) it aligns his views with Vladimir Putin's, and (c) anything Bill Clinton did is bad.

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