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Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:50 AM

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Is he lying, or is he stupid? It's either one or the other.

There are three alternatives.

The third alternative is that Trump is smart enough to know that it takes significant effort for a voter to distinguish between true and false. He has bet that the majority of voters are too lazy to make the effort. If his guess is right, Trump will win without expending much effort. He is playing the odds. It costs Trump only a few million to play this lottery and the cash prize is worth billions in prestige and actual loot in the form of tax cuts for the Trumps! Trump will repeal the estate tax. With his $10 billion estate going tax free to his children, Trump is building a legacy for ten generations of Trumps.
www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/08/09/hillary-vows-estate-tax-hik
es-while-trump-vows-repeal/#707e7d895c0f

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/09/27/donald-trump-vs-hillary-clin
ton-on-tax-cuts-for-the-rich
/

One currently influential philosophical movement goes under various names such as postmodernism, trumpism or structuralism, depending on historical details that are unimportant here. It claims that because all ideas, including scientific theories, are conjectural, they are essentially arbitrary: they are no more than stories. Trump, and his followers, have their stories, which are as justifiable as Hillary and her followers' stories. In this philosophical movement, Trump is not a liar if enough people believe without feeling the need to verify his stories. "Enough" is defined as 50% plus 1 person, which is the same number to win a popularity contest.

Trumpism or postmodernism sounds weird and is weird, but it explains some weird behavior of US citizens, going all the way back to the people who reelected Nixon and Reagan. Life is so easy on the brain when you automatically believe the stories of strongmen such as Trump, Nixon and Reagan.

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Friday, September 30, 2016 1:43 AM

NY Attorney General's Probe of Trump Foundation Appears to Widen

The New York attorney general's investigation of the Donald J. Trump Foundation appears to have broadened to include new allegations of self-dealing by Trump that surfaced after the probe began, TPM has learned.

The town of Palm Beach, Florida, has provided documents to the New York Attorney General's Office as part of the probe, a lawyer for the town confirmed to TPM on Wednesday. The documents relate to a legal dispute that Trump settled with the town using foundation money. The details of the 2007 Palm Beach case were first reported by the Washington Post last week.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ny-attorney-generals-probe-of-t
rump-foundation-appears-to-widen/ar-BBwNq9X?li=BBnb7Kz



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Friday, September 30, 2016 2:49 AM

Conservative Newspapers Breaking Tradition to Abandon Trump

A growing number of conservative newspaper editorial boards are breaking long-standing traditions and endorsing Democrat Hillary Clinton, Libertarian Gary Johnson, or no one at all.

The Detroit News on Thursday backed Johnson, marking the first time in the newspaper's 143-year history its' editorial board did not endorse a Republican.

"We abandon that long and estimable tradition this year for one reason: Donald J. Trump," the paper wrote.


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Friday, September 30, 2016 3:51 AM

That sounds about right..........lying and stupid is
more like it. Lying because, well, he lies. Stupid because,
doesn't he think (an oxymoron) that people will find out.
Journalists will check, fact chekers will check and
serious-minded voters will check the validity of his claims
....ahem, lies.

My vote is for lying, stupid Drumpf.
While we're at it, let's throw in fat and ugly too.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:



Is he lying, or is he stupid? It's either one or the other.

He's also saying that he won the "CBS post-debate poll" - except CBS didn't run any such poll.

So I'll ask again: is he lying or is he just that fucking stupid?

In the debate he said he was "smart" if he didn't pay any federal taxes (and he didn't pay any); after the debate, within an hour of its end, he said that he never said that.

He's either too goddam stupid to be president, or he's suffering from dementia and cannot reasonably ascertain what he did or didn't say.

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Friday, September 30, 2016 4:57 AM

Absolutely great response and comment Second. I'm amazed as well, that this man could con his way into a leadership role - mainly because it's steeped in shallowness and is only outdone by the callousness of the host, namely Trump.

Uniquely unprepared is an understatement of epic proportions...Trump-sized, if you will. I truly appreciate your review of the debate, but here's something that you mention that I believe people (the media in particular) missed:

Quote:

Instead of talking about the future of our nation, Trump talked about his new hotel.


"If I don't get there one way, I'm going to get to Pennsylvania Avenue another"

Wow! Pitching his new hotel during the Debate. Could you believe that? And he says he will be totally unbiased running his businesses if he gets to the White House. Yeah, I believe that one. But, more importantly, it shows how incredibly single and simple-minded he is - business and profit for him is paramount. Not only does that smack of conflict of interest, it could go against national security and the national agenda. He would sell us out for profit (which I believe he's already done).

It also shows how incredibly defeated he is, in his own mind (and I use that term loosely). It's like standing up during an interview and telling the interviewer to hurry because you have another appointment across the street.
You're telling them you don't want the job, you're telling them you don't think you'll get the job.

The most important, most powerful job in the world. Oh, he wants it, but he doesn't want to work for it. He wants people to say - "We totally get your awesome. Here, here are the keys to the kingdom, your majesty."




I found that supremely off topic, but very telling.


Quote:

Disorganized, stumbling and sniffling throughout the debate, Trump proved that he clearly isn’t ready for prime time.


It is worth repeating.


SGG





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Friday, September 30, 2016 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
That sounds about right..........lying and stupid is
more like it. Lying because, well, he lies. Stupid because,
doesn't he think (an oxymoron) that people will find out.
Journalists will check, fact chekers will check and
serious-minded voters will check the validity of his claims
....ahem, lies.

My vote is for lying, stupid Drumpf.
While we're at it, let's throw in fat and ugly too.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:



Is he lying, or is he stupid? It's either one or the other.

He's also saying that he won the "CBS post-debate poll" - except CBS didn't run any such poll.

So I'll ask again: is he lying or is he just that fucking stupid?

In the debate he said he was "smart" if he didn't pay any federal taxes (and he didn't pay any); after the debate, within an hour of its end, he said that he never said that.

He's either too goddam stupid to be president, or he's suffering from dementia and cannot reasonably ascertain what he did or didn't say.




That's too funny.


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Friday, September 30, 2016 7:09 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Absolutely great response and comment Second. I'm amazed as well, that this man could con his way into a leadership role - mainly because it's steeped in shallowness and is only outdone by the callousness of the host, namely Trump.

Uniquely unprepared is an understatement of epic proportions...Trump-sized, if you will. I truly appreciate your review of the debate, but here's something that you mention that I believe people (the media in particular) missed:

Quote:

Instead of talking about the future of our nation, Trump talked about his new hotel.


"If I don't get there one way, I'm going to get to Pennsylvania Avenue another"

Wow! Pitching his new hotel during the Debate. Could you believe that? And he says he will be totally unbiased running his businesses if he gets to the White House. Yeah, I believe that one. But, more importantly, it shows how incredibly single and simple-minded he is - business and profit for him is paramount. Not only does that smack of conflict of interest, it could go against national security and the national agenda. He would sell us out for profit (which I believe he's already done).

It also shows how incredibly defeated he is, in his own mind (and I use that term loosely). It's like standing up during an interview and telling the interviewer to hurry because you have another appointment across the street.
You're telling them you don't want the job, you're telling them you don't think you'll get the job.

The most important, most powerful job in the world. Oh, he wants it, but he doesn't want to work for it. He wants people to say - "We totally get your awesome. Here, here are the keys to the kingdom, your majesty."

I found that supremely off topic, but very telling.


Quote:

Disorganized, stumbling and sniffling throughout the debate, Trump proved that he clearly isn’t ready for prime time.


It is worth repeating.


SGG




Trump fell into every trap Hillary set because he was getting to talk about himself. He loves to talk about himself and he can't let anything go. And he always played the victim. For someone who runs on the fact that he would be a strong leader, always being a victim shows you are not.

I think the next debate is in a town hall format. If so he's fucked.

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Friday, September 30, 2016 2:40 PM

I think you may be right about the Town Hall setting, that may prove to be a disaster for him. But I noticed, as he complained about the mic, that he was not getting his usual fix of audience reaction (like at his "rallies"). I know that you're definitely right about her setting him up. He just couldn't help himself.

In a Town Hall he may have some supporters there, and that will give him confidence. Let's see what he'll complain about now. Imagine him at the U.N.
and he totally chokes!? It's just too cringe-worthy and I get the giggles, Ha!

Ya know, maybe the debate organizers should invite some hecklers to make him feel at home. Then he could have some of his supporters punch them in the face.

Now, I'll buy that for a dollar!!!


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Absolutely great response and comment Second. I'm amazed as well, that this man could con his way into a leadership role - mainly because it's steeped in shallowness and is only outdone by the callousness of the host, namely Trump.

Uniquely unprepared is an understatement of epic proportions...Trump-sized, if you will. I truly appreciate your review of the debate, but here's something that you mention that I believe people (the media in particular) missed:

Quote:

Instead of talking about the future of our nation, Trump talked about his new hotel.


"If I don't get there one way, I'm going to get to Pennsylvania Avenue another"

Wow! Pitching his new hotel during the Debate. Could you believe that? And he says he will be totally unbiased running his businesses if he gets to the White House. Yeah, I believe that one. But, more importantly, it shows how incredibly single and simple-minded he is - business and profit for him is paramount. Not only does that smack of conflict of interest, it could go against national security and the national agenda. He would sell us out for profit (which I believe he's already done).

It also shows how incredibly defeated he is, in his own mind (and I use that term loosely). It's like standing up during an interview and telling the interviewer to hurry because you have another appointment across the street.
You're telling them you don't want the job, you're telling them you don't think you'll get the job.

The most important, most powerful job in the world. Oh, he wants it, but he doesn't want to work for it. He wants people to say - "We totally get your awesome. Here, here are the keys to the kingdom, your majesty."

I found that supremely off topic, but very telling.


Quote:

Disorganized, stumbling and sniffling throughout the debate, Trump proved that he clearly isn’t ready for prime time.


It is worth repeating.


SGG




Trump fell into every trap Hillary set because he was getting to talk about himself. He loves to talk about himself and he can't let anything go. And he always played the victim. For someone who runs on the fact that he would be a strong leader, always being a victim shows you are not.

I think the next debate is in a town hall format. If so he's fucked.

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Friday, September 30, 2016 2:45 PM

Yeah, I saw that too. He doesn't have one newspaper endorsement, not one!
That's impressive!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Conservative Newspapers Breaking Tradition to Abandon Trump

A growing number of conservative newspaper editorial boards are breaking long-standing traditions and endorsing Democrat Hillary Clinton, Libertarian Gary Johnson, or no one at all.

The Detroit News on Thursday backed Johnson, marking the first time in the newspaper's 143-year history its' editorial board did not endorse a Republican.

"We abandon that long and estimable tradition this year for one reason: Donald J. Trump," the paper wrote.


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/conservative-newspapers-
breaking-tradition-abandon-trump-n656911


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Friday, September 30, 2016 2:55 PM

It's also been reported that some members (3 that I know of) of his behind-the-scenes staff have been forced to resign due to criminal behavior. One was the pilot of his plane - he had run over someone with his car, on purpose. Plus another assault charge is pending. An Iowa campaign manager was also forced to resign due to an assault on a friend, he pointed a loaded
pistol at someone's knee. And yet another one who attempted to run over someone with his motorcycle.

Plus the guy he hired from Breitbart threatened his ex-wife so she wouldn't testify against him in a child support case. That's why you don't hear much from him, they want to avoid answering questions about him. And remember his former campaign manager? They all belong to the Donald J. Trump mutual
admiration society.

Lovely people; Some staff, eh!


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
NY Attorney General's Probe of Trump Foundation Appears to Widen

The New York attorney general's investigation of the Donald J. Trump Foundation appears to have broadened to include new allegations of self-dealing by Trump that surfaced after the probe began, TPM has learned.

The town of Palm Beach, Florida, has provided documents to the New York Attorney General's Office as part of the probe, a lawyer for the town confirmed to TPM on Wednesday. The documents relate to a legal dispute that Trump settled with the town using foundation money. The details of the 2007 Palm Beach case were first reported by the Washington Post last week.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ny-attorney-generals-probe-of-t
rump-foundation-appears-to-widen/ar-BBwNq9X?li=BBnb7Kz



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