TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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November election will drive Texas GOP future
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/November-election
-will-drive-Texas-GOP-future-9228177.php
By Mike Ward, Updated: September 17, 2016 8:28pm
AUSTIN – Though the Texas GOP officially is onboard for Donald Trump, some Republican officials and consultants privately speculate that a win by Democrat Hillary Clinton could be better for the party.
Having Clinton in the White House, they say, would allow Texas Republicans to continue to use Washington's excesses and "overreach" to solidify their ranks and help fundraising, while a Trump presidency would add uncertainty to the GOP cause.
With less than 50 days until Election Day, even as top state Republicans are solidly behind "the orange-haired guy at the top of the ticket," bigger questions loom for a party that in recent years has turned hard right under a tea-party onslaught that has pushed aside many centrists and "compassionate conservatives."
One thing on which most Texas Republicans seem to agree: The winner in November election could reshape the state party.
"If Trump loses, the Republicans will have a common enemy in Hillary Clinton, but they may find themselves divided on a number of issues that have come up during this campaign," said Thomas Brunell, a political scientist at the University of Texas at Dallas. "If Trump wins, the factions of the party that have come out in this campaign will have to come together to determine the future of the party. And that's when you could see the current party break up or reformulate itself, if it comes to that."
Recent polls show Trump at best holding a seven-point lead over Clinton in the red state stronghold of Texas, where Mitt Romney won over Barack Obama by 16 points four years ago.
A Texas Lyceum Poll released Thursday revealed Trump's lead in a four-way race shrinks significantly and is a statistical dead heat, with Trump ahead of Clinton by just one percentage point among registered voters. In a two-way race, Clinton pulls ahead of Trump among those same voters, by a margin of 39 to 35 percent, a surprising figure in a state that has not had a Democrat elected to statewide office since 1994 and has not voted for a Democrat for president since 1976.
"Registered voters are more diverse than the pool of voters who historically show up in Texas elections, but the combination of the slow march of demographic change and Trump's rhetoric appears to have made Texas' registered voter pool more Democratic than we have seen in previous presidential races," said Joshua Blank, the poll's research director.
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1kiki's "Independents"
A salient point I gleaned from five-thirty-eight.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/was-the-democratic-primary-a-close
-call-or-a-landslide/
Furthermore, although Sanders voters are quite liberal, a lot of them aren’t Democrats, or at least don’t like to identify themselves as Democrats. Clinton crushed Sanders among self-identified Democrats, winning them by 27 percentage points, based on exit polls. But Sanders won independents who voted in the Democratic primary by 31 percentage points.
... it turned out that there were more than 13 million people who signed up for his “revolution.” A lot of those voters are young, furthermore, so their power may grow in the years ahead. ... Sanders accomplished something almost as important, unlocking a heretofore underappreciated political coalition that could determine a lot of future elections, possibly even including the general election this year.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Bernie was making promises he has no idea how he would pay for.
Beyond VERY vaporous statements, so did FDR.
In this time of unprecedented economic and social distress the Democratic Party declares its conviction that the chief causes of this condition were the disastrous policies pursued by our government since the World War, of economic isolation, fostering the merger of competitive businesses into monopolies and encouraging the indefensible expansion and contraction of credit for private profit at the expense of the public.
Those who were responsible for these policies have abandoned the ideals on which the war was won and thrown away the fruits of victory, thus rejecting the greatest opportunity in history to bring peace, prosperity, and happiness to our people and to the world.
They have ruined our foreign trade; destroyed the values of our commodities and products, crippled our banking system, robbed millions of our people of their life savings, and thrown millions more out of work, produced wide-spread poverty and brought the government to a state of financial distress unprecedented in time of peace.
The only hope for improving present conditions, restoring employment, affording permanent relief to the people, and bringing the nation back to the proud position of domestic happiness and of financial, industrial, agricultural and commercial leadership in the world lies in a drastic change in economic governmental policies.
We believe that a party platform is a covenant with the people to have [sic] faithfully kept by the party when entrusted with power, and that the people are entitled to know in plain words the terms of the contract to which they are asked to subscribe. We hereby declare this to be the platform of the Democratic Party:
The Democratic Party solemnly promises by appropriate action to put into effect the principles, policies, and reforms herein advocated, and to eradicate the policies, methods, and practices herein condemned. We advocate an immediate and drastic reduction of governmental expenditures by abolishing useless commissions and offices, consolidating departments and bureaus, and eliminating extravagance to accomplish a saving of not less than twenty-five per cent in the cost of the Federal Government. And we call upon the Democratic Party in the states to make a zealous effort to achieve a proportionate result.
We favor maintenance of the national credit by a federal budget annually balanced on the basis of accurate executive estimates within revenues, raised by a system of taxation levied on the principle of ability to pay.
We advocate a sound currency to be preserved at all hazards and an international monetary conference called on the invitation of our government to consider the rehabilitation of silver and related questions.
We advocate a competitive tariff for revenue with a fact-finding tariff commission free from executive interference, reciprocal tariff agreements with other nations, and an international economic conference designed to restore international trade and facilitate exchange.
We advocate the extension of federal credit to the states to provide unemployment relief wherever the diminishing resources of the states makes it impossible for them to provide for the needy; expansion of the federal program of necessary and useful construction effected [sic] with a public interest, such as adequate flood control and waterways.
We advocate the spread of employment by a substantial reduction in the hours of labor, the encouragement of the shorter week by applying that principle in government service; we advocate advance planning of public works.
We advocate unemployment and old-age insurance under state laws.
We favor the restoration of agriculture, the nation's basic industry; better financing of farm mortgages through recognized farm bank agencies at low rates of interest on an amortization pla
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So, let's see
No response to this besides BUT TRUMP...! (which will definitely not help Clinton improve):
"Hillary Clinton's latest transcript, judged by her stated criteria
I also felt the need to point out her many logical fallacies, that prey on emotion."
Trump DID release his medical records and he IS in 'astonishingly excellent' health.
And second, in her rush to dismiss my posts because I'm the one posting, made two arguments which were both false (and for which a brief trip to google would have fixed). SGG went off into incoherent drunken(?) rants. And along with second and sgg, other posters posted meaningless trolling.
Not finding any fact-based responses here.
MEANWHILE Clinton is continuing to lose while Trump is continuing to gain. Though Trump appears to be gaining more than Clinton is losing, which means he's also picking up the valuable undecided/ independent segment.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_elec
tion_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Goodness! Whatever might Clinton do to improve her standing?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Quote:In the course of a single conversation, I have been assured that Hillary is cunning and manipulative but also crass, clueless, and stunningly impolitic; that she is a hopelessly woolly-headed do-gooder and, at heart, a hardball litigator; that she is a base opportunist and a zealot convinced that God is on her side. What emerges is a cultural inventory of villainy rather than a plausible depiction of an actual person. There is NOTHING Hillary can do to chase away the phantom Hillary haunting 1kiki's brain.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Goodness! Whatever might Clinton do to improve her standing?
https://thepolicy.us/thinking-about-hillary-a-plea-for-reason-308fce6d
187c#.kgqr4nwho
I am sure that any statement about Hillary's policies sends 1kiki lunging for the keyboard in order to explain to me that Hillary Clinton’s policies are exactly what they DON’T like about her. But it is very clear to me that this is not the case with the majority of Hillary haters. The vast majority of messages and comments about HRC that I see consist almost solely of either personal attacks, false claims, childish conspiracy theories, assumptions of guilt by association or complaints about legislation passed by her husband decades ago. Almost none of the comments I see (or have received) even bother to address her current policy positions, and most of the small few that do either willfully misrepresent them, assume as a given that they are terrible or dismiss them altogether as mere political expediency.
http://bit.ly/2cUlTO4
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Quote:Who are you voting for President, 1kiki? I don't need your reasons. I don't need to know what state you're voting in. For me it is Hillary and Texas. For you I don't know, either because I forgot or your smoke screen prevented me from knowing.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, let's see
No response to this besides BUT TRUMP...! (which will definitely not help Clinton improve):
"Hillary Clinton's latest transcript, judged by her stated criteria
I also felt the need to point out her many logical fallacies, that prey on emotion."
Trump DID release his medical records and he IS in 'astonishingly excellent' health.
And second, in her rush to dismiss my posts because I'm the one posting, made two arguments which were both false (and for which a brief trip to google would have fixed). SGG went off into incoherent drunken(?) rants. And along with second and sgg, other posters posted meaningless trolling.
Not finding any fact-based responses here.
MEANWHILE Clinton is continuing to lose while Trump is continuing to gain. Though Trump appears to be gaining more than Clinton is losing, which means he's also picking up the valuable undecided/ independent segment.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_elec
tion_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Goodness! Whatever might Clinton do to improve her standing?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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There is NOTHING Hillary can do to chase away the phantom Hillary haunting 1kiki's brain.
And your old favorite standby, that thing that passes for argument in your brain - the ad hominem.
The problems I have with Hillary's policies I've made very, very clear - repeatedly. And the things I think are weakening her campaign - aside from the issues I have with it - I've also made very, very clear - repeatedly. Many of them are in the 'Hillary' thread which you've avoided since day 1 because you can't seem to grasp that Hillary has problems and baggage she needs to address. But some posts are found here as well.
And I've also said who I'm going to vote for multiple times as well.
But for sure, I'm not going to repeat my posts again. After all, you've ignored the first dozen times. One more post isn't going to magically fix your resolute refusal to read.
SO - BACK TO MY QUESTION ...
Chanting anti-Donald screeds isn't going to change anything. The people who are for Hillary will read them and probably agree, and maybe even get foam-at-the-mouth-angry over them - but it's not like they get Hilliary EXTRA votes. Meanwhile, the people who are going to vote for Donald either know and don't care, or they don't care to know.
All your anti-Donald posts are like squashing water.
The only way to improve Hillary's numbers is to figure out what's going wrong with HER campaign, stop doing whatever it is that's making things go wrong, and do something better instead. What could that be?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Don't bother asking sigkik who they are voting for. They won't put their neck out like that.
Such as when I asked them to come back here and stand up for their position against Hillary and for Drumph. Come back in four years and own up to their choice and what followed, either way the vote goes.
These trolls won't do it. Because they really are trolls and cowards at heart. Like Drumph, they cannot face the idea that they might be mistaken, and that reality will prove how very much wrong they are.
They are that insecure. Pure 100% cowards.
Here is the post with the challenge, in case they try to deny it:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60557&mid=1
014580#1014580
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These trolls won't do it.
You mean this?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60745&p=1
Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:42 PM
Mal
What Signy said, except I don't support Trump. My position has always been - and still is - anybody but Hillary. And my issue with her has always been - and still is - her inability to learn from her 'successes' - Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Syria - and the fact that she's still committed to the same policies that brought them.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Quote:Your education is showing. It is obviously ad hominem because this is a disagreement about the character of Trump.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
And your old favorite standby, that thing that passes for argument in your brain - the ad hominem.
Quote:1kiki, you are hiding behind a smokescreen that I cannot see clearly through. Give me a two word answer to who you are voting for and what state you are voting from. My answer would be Hillary Texas. From the 1kiki smoke I can only make out one word: California. Is that correct? And I have never been able to make out the first word. Is it Trump?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
And I've also said who I'm going to vote for multiple times as well.
But for sure, I'm not going to repeat my posts again. After all, you've ignored the first dozen times. One more post isn't going to magically fix your resolute refusal to read.
Quote:Hillary could pull down Trump during the debate. But even that might not work. Here is my experience from yesterday: Larry, the Republican next door, has told me many times that Obama was born in Kenya and that it is a well-documented fact, but when Trump said on Friday that "Back in 2008, Hillary Clinton started the birther controversy. I finished it. President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period." Larry claimed on Saturday that Larry had always been joking about Obama's birth. Birtherism originated with Hillary. Then Larry crossed his arms in an unconscious defensive move and went back inside. He was not talking to me anymore because I could not remember Larry's version of the past.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
All your anti-Donald posts are like squashing water.
The only way to improve Hillary's numbers is to figure out what's going wrong with HER campaign, stop doing whatever it is that's making things go wrong, and do something better instead. What could that be?
During the debates, Trump will do the same by reversing himself and loudly declaring his new position was always his position. Hillary had just not understood Trump's position because she was not as smart as Trump. At least in Trump's mind and his supporters' Trump will have won the argument. I know that is ad hominem, but we are talking about serious (and utterly silly) character flaws in Trump and his supporters.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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