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Donald Trump's Trillion-Dollar Lie
http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/09/donald-trumps-trillion-dol
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I come bearing good news. But first, we have to get a little technical. I promise it won't hurt a bit.
Many corporations are "pass-through" entities. Mostly these are partnerships and small businesses, and they aren't taxed on their profits. Instead, the profits are passed through to the business owners, who pay ordinary personal income tax on it. Donald Trump, for example, owns hundreds of separate businesses under the umbrella of the Trump Organization, and most of them are pass-throughs. All the profits go to Trump.
So how should these businesses be handled? In the tax proposal Trump unveiled last year, pass-throughs would be taxed at a low 15 percent rate. This is a huge tax cut for rich business owners—like Donald Trump—since their personal tax rate can be as high as 33 percent. A corporate rate of 15 percent combined with a zero percent personal rate represents a huge tax cut.
But that was then. Earlier this week Trump unveiled a shiny new tax plan. How does it handle pass-throughs? As usual, details are hard to come by in Trumpland, but he told the Tax Foundation that he had decided to eliminate the tax cut. They took him at his word and concluded that his new tax plan would cost $4.4 trillion.
But Trump told the National Federation of Independent Business that he was keeping the tax cut. They also took him at his word and gave him their support. So which is it? Binyamin Appelbaum investigates:
Call it the trillion-dollar lie: Both assertions cannot be true.
....Steven Mnuchin, Mr. Trump’s finance chairman, said Friday that the campaign’s tax plan had not changed at any point on Thursday....“The intent of the plan is that big and small businesses have tax relief,” he said. He declined to comment on the conflicting accounts provided by the two groups.
So what's the good news in all this? Here it is: Appelbaum called it a lie. That may be a bit rude, but it's the most accurate way of characterizing what happened. Trump has been working on this plan for months and clearly has some idea of exactly how he plans to handle pass-through businesses. But he told business owners one thing and a tax scoring group another. What else would you call this?
Why a Donald Trump Victory Could Make Climate Catastrophe Inevitable
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There's a 15% odds gap between Donald and Hillary. Not entirely insurmountable, but not likely.
The question is - why does Hillary keep bleeding support? What could be done to staunch, or even reverse, the trend?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/business/economy/census-poverty-inco
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The eye-popping improvement in economic fortunes last year raises the question: If incomes are up and poverty is down, why is Donald J. Trump’s message of economic decay resonating so broadly?
The answer is in plain sight. While the economy finally is moving in the right direction, the real incomes of most American households still are smaller than in the late 1990s. And large swaths of the country — rural America, industrial centers in the Rust Belt and Appalachia — are lagging behind. That bleak reality helps to explain why the good news the Census Bureau issued Tuesday about a rise in household income was greeted gleefully by economists but is unlikely to change the complexion of the presidential race.
The economic dislocations of recent decades may be contributing to the polarization of the electorate, according to research by David Autor, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In a new paper, Mr. Autor and three co-authors found that voting patterns had shifted most in the parts of the country that lost the most jobs as a result of increased trade with China. The study, which focused on congressional elections, found that voters in districts with heavy job losses have tended toward ideological extremes, replacing moderates with more conservative or liberal representatives. “There is this undercurrent of economically driven dissatisfaction that works to the benefit of candidates who are noncentrist, and particularly right-wing candidates,” Mr. Autor said.
Last year, household incomes rose strongly, especially among those in lower income brackets. But looking at changes in income over a longer period, Americans in the bottom half were still well below where they stood at the turn of the century even as those at the top chalked up significant gains.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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I's also like to add - the fact that economic good news exists as isolated pockets, mostly in metropolitan areas and mostly among college graduates - that are surrounded by vast numbers of declining counties, states, and entire multi-state regions: ie people - also explains why the democrats will continue to lose congress and governorships.
BECAUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC PLIGHT OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ... while the party elite are on their way to personal, third-way, enrichment.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I's also like to add - the fact that economic good news exists as isolated pockets, mostly in metropolitan areas and mostly among college graduates - that are surrounded by vast numbers of declining counties, states, and entire multi-state regions: ie people - also explains why the democrats will continue to lose congress and governorships.
BECAUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC PLIGHT OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ... while the party elite are on their way to personal, third-way, enrichment.
The problem with your perspective is it implies that the Democrats are responsible and the Republicans are not comrade.
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The problem with your perspective is it implies that the Democrats are responsible and the Republicans are not ...
Actually, no it doesn't. What democrats ARE responsible for is not ADDRESSING the economy of ordinary Americans as prominent part of the campaign. And the party's campaign focus (ie not on the economy) is why Bernie got so many votes where they count most - among independents - in the primaries. (As I clearly stated in my post: 'BECAUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC PLIGHT OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ...')
Clinton and the democratic party SHOULD have taken a lesson from that. If not, they SHOULD be taking a lesson from the demographics where Clinton is bleeding support and Trump is gaining.
Assuming democrats want to be a relevant party at all levels of government and across the country. Or, they could just cede Congress and the governorships permanently, and content themselves with the presidency.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Let me ask you a question: who the fuck started the Sequester? Who has been foolishly fucking investigating Benfuckingghazi forever.......what is it? 11, 12, 14 times? Wasn't it Ted Cruz that caused the government to lose $24 Billion in one day.......?
Fuck I'm so pissed that I can't think of more off the top of my head?
So who the fuck gives a shit about the little guy again?
Who the fuck has been luxuriating these past few years while the president goes it alone in running the country?
Who the fuck has put every obstacle possible so as to slow down business and the economy at all costs?
Who the fuck has turned this economy around despite that deliberate blockage?
Where is the economy now, hmmmmmm, WHERE???? Tell me, where the fuck!?
Tell me again how the Disgusting motherfuckers called Republicans had anything positive for anyone in this country?
Who the fuck had the fucking nerve to call McCain a loser........the fucking
same scumbag who calls anyone of color rapists, murderers and thieves. Fuck him and the fucking broomstick he rode on.
The Devil is alive and well and his name is Trump, Dickhead Trump!
SGG
Quote:The problem with your perspective is it implies that the Democrats are responsible and the Republicans are not ...
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Actually, no it doesn't. What democrats ARE responsible for is not ADDRESSING the economy of ordinary Americans as prominent part of the campaign. And the party's campaign focus (ie not on the economy) is why Bernie got so many votes where they count most - among independents - in the primaries. (As I clearly stated in my post: 'BECAUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC PLIGHT OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ...')
Clinton and the democratic party SHOULD have taken a lesson from that. If not, they SHOULD be taking a lesson from the demographics where Clinton is bleeding support and Trump is gaining.
Assuming democrats want to be a relevant party at all levels of government and across the country. Or, they could just cede Congress and the governorships permanently, and content themselves with the presidency.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Get a job!
Fucking repubs have fucked this country in the ass, but good!
At every turn they have blocked and stalled the economy, wake the fuck up!
They are the REAL motherfuckers, no one else!!!!
So fuck that bullshit!!!
You guys actually believe that lying sack of shit! Boy are you guys far gone, way up in his ass. You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you smack in the middle of your pasty face!
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I's also like to add - the fact that economic good news exists as isolated pockets, mostly in metropolitan areas and mostly among college graduates - that are surrounded by vast numbers of declining counties, states, and entire multi-state regions: ie people - also explains why the democrats will continue to lose congress and governorships.
BECAUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC PLIGHT OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ... while the party elite are on their way to personal, third-way, enrichment.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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So who the fuck gives a shit about the little guy again?
Yanno, at least Trump is TALKING about it. Unlike Hillary and the DNC who have to pretend that Obama's recovery has been fantastic. Which is why they won't say anything at all.
So, what in YOUR opinion could Clinton do to improve her numbers with the people who are economically hurting, and who have no relief in sight?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:
The problem with your perspective is it implies that the Democrats are responsible and the Republicans are not ...
Actually, no it doesn't. What democrats ARE responsible for is not ADDRESSING the economy of ordinary Americans as prominent part of the campaign. And the party's campaign focus (ie not on the economy) is why Bernie got so many votes where they count most - among independents - in the primaries. (As I clearly stated in my post: 'BECAUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC PLIGHT OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ...')
Clinton and the democratic party SHOULD have taken a lesson from that. If not, they SHOULD be taking a lesson from the demographics where Clinton is bleeding support and Trump is gaining.
Assuming democrats want to be a relevant party at all levels of government and across the country. Or, they could just cede Congress and the governorships permanently, and content themselves with the presidency.
Bernie was making promises he has no idea how he would pay for. The promises were very appealing to anyone (students, the young, jobless, 1kiki's "Independents") who would not be paying income tax for Bernie’s big promises. Trump takes promise-making to a higher level than Bernie would ever dare.
The typical way Republican politicians run a campaign is to make false promises that they cannot deliver with the methods they will be using, which are tax-cuts, tariffs and deregulation. For example of one Republican, Trump promises many jobs once he brings manufacturing back from overseas with his new tariffs. And it will be so very easy for Trump, he promises. You can depend on his promises because he keeps them. That is why he has been sued only a few thousand times rather than millions of times. Because he keeps his promises. (No, he does not. He is the least classy liar the GOP ever ran for President.)
A serious politician, FDR for a great example, did not make Trump-like wild promises of all your dreams coming true. FDR used many different ways to bring back the US economy after Republican Pres. Herbert Hoover could do nothing about the Great Depression. None of FDR’s methods were the Republicans’ preferential tax-cuts for the wealthy or tariff increases on imports or deregulation like Trump is promising. Truthfully, FDR could only move the economy slowly until the increased borrowing of WWII finally saved the US economy. That war saved FDR from being kicked out of office for not turning around the economy fast enough to please Trump, the man who promises he can improve the economy so much faster and so much easier because he is so much smarter than any Democrat that ever existed, including FDR.
To ram the point home: Trump is a promise-making-machine. He can make more promises in an hour than any truthful politician would make in a month. And Trump forgets his promises as fast as he makes them, so there is no need for him to figure out the details of living with his promises. The promises are his sales pitch, while details would just slow down his political rally. Unfortunately, thousands of people have sued Trump to get him to take his own promises seriously. But once he is President, he can’t be sued. Trump knows this. He will be depending on his immunity from lawsuits. It allows him to fearlessly make unlimited promises, completely unhinged from any reality. And certain voters love that about Trump, just like certain voters loved Bernie’s less unhinged promise-making. If only Bernie had kicked up the promises to a Trump-like level, Bernie might have been the Democrat running against Trump. But Bernie has too many scruples.
In Norway, you can browse everyone’s tax returns on the internet. Norwegian tax returns have been publicly available since the 1800s, the idea being that financial transparency is a vital part of democracy. Trump could learn a lesson.
http://qz.com/784186/in-norway-you-can-browse-every
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SNL parody of Trump supporter and Tea Party News Network host Scottie Nell Hughes, known for her rambling and breathless defenses of Trump’s awfulness.
The real Scottie Nell Hughes said, “You know, I have a great sense of humor. My mother loved it — she thought it was the funniest thing; she’s gonna watch it every morning.”
www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04/03/scottie-nell-hughes-responds-to-sn
l-skit-depicting-her-as-nutjob-trump-supporter/
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