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TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!

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Friday, September 16, 2016 2:11 PM

Give it time, he will come full circle.


SGG

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Friday, September 16, 2016 2:17 PM

He's also started a war of words with Ford Car Company, since they announced
moving their small cars production to Mexico.

Trump sprang into action, but, as usual he spoke without checking his facts.
Turns out that Ford is looking to bring SUV and truck production to Michigan.
No one will be losing their jobs.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-ceo-fires-back-at-donald
-trump-on-jobs-to-mexico/ar-BBwd5uQ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp



SGG


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Originally posted by second:
Trump promotes oil and gas ideas that industry insiders call ‘completely nuts.’
Houston Chronicle editorial, Sept 15, 2016
www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/A-dry-hole-9223632
.php


When Murray Energy CEO, Bob Murray, met with Donald Trump and told him to advocate for more LNG exports, Trump’s response was “What’s LNG?”

Talk about your dry holes.

As any Houstonian knows, LNG, or liquified natural gas, is how energy companies move natural gas across the globe. The fracking revolution has transformed the energy landscape from one of scarcity into surplus, and now the United States has begun to export LNG instead of importing it. This change in energy markets is one of the most important turning points in contemporary geopolitics.

Since his display of LNG ignorance, Trump has done essentially nothing to educate himself about one of the leading energy and geopolitical issues that will come across the president’s desk. He’s flip-flopped on fracking bans. His calls for a trade war would undermine the petroleum industry’s long-fought battle to export crude oil and LNG. And he has proposed a bizarre tax on profits from the Keystone XL pipeline, which would not only be an illegal taking from oil companies but would also unconstitutionally abrogate Congress’ exclusive authority to levy taxes.

“You’re not building a high-rise here and getting shaken down by the local union for a donation to the pension fund — you’re building a major pipeline through the U.S.,” Politico reporter Eric Wolff quoted one oil industry lobbyist. “Something like this is a deterrent on pipeline investment. It’s not taken seriously, because it’s just completely nuts.”

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Friday, September 16, 2016 2:28 PM

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Donald Trump has not only brought haters into the mainstream, he has normalized hate for a much broader swathe of the population who were perhaps already disaffected but had their grievances and latent prejudices held in check by social norms. This isn’t some minor point or critique. It’s a fundamental part of what is at stake in this election, what makes it different from Obama v. Romney.


So true. He has emboldened the haters and given them permission to "express"
themselves and "knocking the crap" out of those who are different. There has been a recent rash of hate-related crimes that the media glosses over. The most recent is the Florida mosque that was burned down. In New York, an Iman and a innocent bystander were executed by a coward who shot them from behind
in the head.

These are premeditated assaults, all thanks to Trump's rhetoric.


SGG

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Friday, September 16, 2016 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Trump sprang into action, but, as usual he spoke without checking his facts.
Turns out that Ford is looking to bring SUV and truck production to Michigan.
No one will be losing their jobs.

Everything is the worst it has every been in history, but Trump will Make America Great Again.
www.gocomics.com/nickanderson/2016/09/16

For the next 8 years I am going to pin every one of President Trump’s disasters on the Texans I know who vote for him. They will tell me their vote and will be so proud that they backed the winner. I did the same with Bush’s voters. They started denying they ever voted for Bush, but I reminded them.

Anybody could predict what a disaster President Bush would be if they knew what Governor Bush had done in Texas and ignored his false campaign promises. Anybody can predict what a disaster President Trump will be if they can remember the last 30 years of Trump history rather than his most recent promises, which are very likely to all be false.

Every day, in every way, Trump is doing better and better.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrp
romo#now

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Friday, September 16, 2016 8:10 PM

What Do Donald Trump's Medical Records Really Say?



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 16, 2016 8:45 PM

In this surreal election season, there is no past. As Mr Universe would say. "There is only the sensory overload of an age of numbingly ephemeral social media."

Trump never goes on the defensive. He merely creates new Trumps. Hence:

(1) The African-American blitz. It’s a new pose and the novelty shows.
But, as every living commentator has noted, the foray into African-American precincts was not aimed at winning black votes but at countering Trump’s general image as the bigoted candidate of white people.

(2) The immigration wobble. A week of nonstop word salad about illegal immigration left everyone confused about what Trump really believes. Genius. The only message to emerge from the rhetorical fog is that he is done talking about deportation and/or legalization. The very discussion is off the table until years down the road.

Case closed. Toxic issue detoxified.

Again, that’s not going to win him the Hispanic vote. But that wasn’t the point. The point was to soften his image in the Philadelphia suburbs, pundit shorthand for white college-educated women that Republicans have to win (and where Trump trails Romney 2012 by 10 points). Which brings us to:

(3) The blockbuster childcare proposal. Unveiled Tuesday, it is liberalism at its best, Big Government at its biggest: tax deductions, tax rebates (i.e. cash), and a federal mandate of six weeks of paid maternity leave. The biggest entitlement since, well, Obamacare.

But wait. Didn’t Trump’s acolytes assure us that he spoke for those betrayed by the sold-out, elitist, GOP establishment that for years refused to stand up to Obama’s overweening mandates, Big Government profligacy and budget-busting entitlements?

No matter. That was yesterday. There is no past. Nor a future — at least for Ivankacare. It would never get through the GOP House.

Nor is it meant to. It is meant to signal what George H. W. Bush once memorably read off a cue card. “Message: I care.” Really, Trump doesn't care, but does he care enough to care whether you figure that out? Not really. Can’t get more transparent than that. Or shameless. Or brilliant.

And it’s working.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 16, 2016 10:38 PM

I can now add example number (4) to Trump's trickery in making himself appear more acceptable to white college-educated women:

Today Trump said on CNN: "Back in 2008, Hillary Clinton started the birther controversy. I finished it. President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period."

CNN’s Berman says the Hillary Clinton slur is an "untruth." CNN’s John King: "We got played." CNN’s Tapper: "Factually false." They still can't bring themselves to use the word "lie." The white college-educated women potentially voting for Trump won't know that Trump lied to them because CNN won't say the word.

Trump’s Birtherism (Obama born in Kenya) is a racist smear and a lie. And yet Trump has been repeating it for literally years. As recently as last night. If someone says for years that blacks have smaller brains and are only fit for menial labor or that Jews are parasites and greedy by nature and then finally says "Okay, maybe not, I'm not gonna say that anymore", who cares? If such racist agitation is ever to be forgiven it's only with a true recantation and apology and an explanation of why that person said and did such terrible things for so long.

Birtherism isn't just not true. It's conscious and deliberate racist agitation. Trump's been doing that for years. Trump saying "Back in 2008, Hillary Clinton started the birther controversy. I finished it. President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period." Period, my ass, Trump.



By Monday I expect another big increase in Trump's chances of winning because white college-educated women can't understand Trump has blatantly lied to them today about Hillary being the origin of Birtherism, not Trump. He knows there is a sucker born every minute.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrp
romo#now



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:40 AM

Trump has spent years and years and years claiming that the president *MUST* be hiding something, otherwise he'd show his birth certificate (which he has shown). The logic is that, since Obama wouldn't show his certificate, it had to be because he has something to hide.

So tell me again why Trump keeps refusing to release his tax returns and his medical records...

There's a very basic rule in politics: If the information in such a record will HELP you, you release it. If it will HURT your campaign, you hem and haw and refuse to release that information - exactly the steps that Trump has taken.

Hillary has released her tax returns for the last 38 years. She has released more than 50,000 e-mails. How many has Trump released of either?

He's hiding something, folks. His own words prove it.

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Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:

If someone says for years that blacks have smaller brains and are only fit for menial labor or that Jews are parasites and greedy by nature and then finally says "Okay, maybe not, I'm not gonna say that anymore", who cares? If such racist agitation is ever to be forgiven it's only with a true recantation and apology and an explanation of why that person said and did such terrible things for so long.




That's a reference to his son's appearances on neo-Nazi radio shows and websites, and his continued sharing of alt-right neo-Nazi and white supremacist imagery, isn't it?

Which son is that, anyway? Uday or Qusay?

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Saturday, September 17, 2016 6:07 PM

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Originally posted by G:

Seriously - if he's elected we deserve him, like some kind of national death wish.

Half of all Americans have serious problems and Trump has quick and easy solutions. He is like one of those internet based loan companies, but some Americans aren't reading Trump's terms and conditions because they want a solution immediately. Once they get a 4 year loan from Trump, their problems will grow with mathematical precision at a compound interest rate of 375% per year. But at least Trump will be doing fine! And isn't that what's most important? www.plaingreenloans.com

Here are a few of Trump's terms and conditions. More will be revealed over the next 4 to 8 years of his Presidency:

Trump once again “jokes” about someone murdering Hillary Clinton

video at
www.vox.com/2016/9/16/12949204/trump-jokes-clinton-assassination

Some other things Trump did Friday:

Lied to the press about the nature of his event at the Trump Hotel in Washington to garner 25 minutes of free airtime, turning the press conference into an infomercial for his hotel.

Lied on stage about the origins of birther conspiracy theories.

Offered two different versions of the third version of his tax plan, with a minor $1 trillion difference between them. A few hours after Donald J. Trump publicly backed away from a $1 trillion tax cut for small businesses, campaign aides privately assured a leading small-business group that Mr. Trump in fact remained committed to the proposal — winning the group’s endorsement.
www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/trump-tax-plan.html

Walked away from a years-long pledge to donate $5 million to charity if anyone could prove Obama’s citizenship.

Attacked Hillary Clinton for supporting wars he also supported.

Did he “joke” about someone shooting Clinton as part of a deliberate effort to rile people up and distract attention from the birther controversy or the fact that his economic plan makes no sense?

The trailer for The Sociopath is here. The movie about Trump’s campaign is to be released roughly three weeks before Election Day (Nov. 8).
http://qz.com/783330/watch-a-movie-trailer-about-donald-trumps-campaig
n-done-in-the-style-of-the-social-network
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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