TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Trump's not going to win. Though Clinton may lose.
WHY did the democrats shoehorn such a weak candidate into the slot, again?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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SECOND, from what you post, it sounds to me like Hillary isn't running against Trump, she's "really" running against .... Putin???
So what does is say about her that she is willing to (continue to) antagonize the only other great nuclear power in the world because she can't seem to win the Presidency by running against the other actual candidate? One who is so deeply flawed she SHOULD have this campaign in the bag?
This whole but Putin thing is disingenuous both from Hillary and from you.
You're always whinging about how Trump says immoderate things that other leaders will hear. Tell me, SECOND, do you think Russia suddenly becomes deaf when Hillary or her campaign managers open their big fat yaps with endless baseless accusations about them?
I've got to say, SECOND, Hillary's campaign has not brought out the best in you: you've given up honesty, common sense, and that great liberal virtue "tolerance".
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Speaking of tolerance
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Several days ago, the WSJ reported that in a change of strategy, Hillary would tone down her personal attacks on Trump to distance herself from an increasingly uglier mudslinging campaign on both sides. It didn't last long: perhaps after she saw the latest polls which continue to slip away from her favor, and confirm the two candidates are again neck and neck, on Friday night during an LGBT fundraiser for her campaign in New York hosted by Barbara Streisand, Hillary unleashed an unprecedented ad hominem attack on what amounts a quarter of America, calling half of Trump's supporters a "basket of deplorables."
Cited by BuzzFeed, Hillary made a statement which 4 years ago effectively lost Mitt Romney the election: "you know, just to be grossly generalist, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables."
“Right?” she said as the crowd laughed and applauded. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it,” Clinton continued. “And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric.”
Which, of course, Hillary isn't engaging in at all.
Yanno, the interesting thing is, the more I see of Hillary, and what a small-minded person she is, the worse I think of her. As far as I'm concerned, there is ONE issue in this campaign that is driving my decision on who to vote for, and that is the prospect that we MIGHT have somebody in office who isn't going to start YET ANOTHER war. Heck, we've had three outright wars and two proxy wars, a scourge of jihadists across the Mideast and the EU, and vastly increased tensions with both China and Russia in 16 short years and ... god, isn't that enough? What are these people thinking?
I would have been far more impressed with Hillary's statesmanship if she had managed to keep her fingers off the "because Putin" button, because IMHO that's one button you shouldn't push unless you really mean it. Instead, she got so desperate running against a clown (Trump) that she completely lost all sense of proportion, and started scaremongering, which in my view completely discredits her (supposed) "experience" and wise statesmanship. For god's sake, if she can't even manage the "crisis" of a political campaign without flubbing important decisions which will create even more problems for her down the road, how is she going to manage a REAL crisis as President?
All I can think of is that her backers are either as deluded as she is, or they think she's going to croak early on in her term and they're simply riding that nag across the finish line.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:I got another Trump/Putin comic:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, from what you post, it sounds to me like Hillary isn't running against Trump, she's "really" running against .... Putin??? . . .
This whole but Putin thing is disingenuous both from Hillary and from you.
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I've got to say, SECOND, Hillary's campaign has not brought out the best in you: you've given up honesty, common sense, and that great liberal virtue "tolerance".
http://doonesbury.washingtonpost.com/strip/archive/2016/9/11
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Because Bernie was weaker than Hillary?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Trump's not going to win. Though Clinton may lose.
WHY did the democrats shoehorn such a weak candidate into the slot, again?
The latest WaPo/ABC News poll shows Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump 51-43 percent in a two-way race. That's good news for Clinton, but the rest of the poll is even better news. Asked who they believe will win, Clinton leads by a whopping 58-29 percent. Historically, this is a pretty predictive indicator. President Obama's approval rating is up to 58 percent, which is good news for the candidate of the same party. Clinton also leads on all four questions about character and all five questions about issues.
But here's my favorite result. Although 43 percent of respondents say they support Trump, only 36 percent say he's qualified to serve. This means that 7 percent of the population plans to vote for him even though they think he's unqualified to be president. Boo yah!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/qualifications-consistency-clinton-turn
out-trump-hunt-poll/story?id=41984690
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Quote:I would not do any analysis of Trump's statements. Schrödinger's cat might be one of Donald Trump's top advisers. His policy positions, such as they are, seem to be simultaneously dead and alive.
Originally posted by G:
“He just called for higher defense spending without giving us a number and without telling us how he is going to pay for it.”
It's almost beside the point that Trump's latest positions don't make any sense.
We shouldn't read too much into what Trump is saying. Odds are it'll change tomorrow. That's because his policies are more cultural markers than they are actual, well, policies. Trump seems to say things to show people that he's like them rather than to show them what he'd like to do. One day that might be saying that he'll pay off the entire national debt in eight years, and the next that actually "this is the time to borrow;" that he wants to raise taxes on the rich, and actually slash them; or that he thinks the Fed should raise rates, and actually keep them where they are. He's able to pull this off even when he isn't telling his supporters what they usually like to hear, because more important than what he says is how he says it. It's the anger, the affect, the sense that he not only feels their pain but shares their rage that matters here.
It's post-policy politics. It's about having the right feelings instead of the right proposals.
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Quote:FINALLY! Something about what Trump actually has said, not about what the DNC thinks Trump "will" say (Trump will Crumble Under Tough Questions).... or about Putin (Too many posts to count, because you folks are obsessed with Putin)! Or cartoons about Trump, claiming to know what Trump thinks, or nasty nude paintings of Trump, or all of the other irrelevant anti-Trump propaganda you all have posted.
We shouldn't read too much into what Trump is saying. Odds are it'll change tomorrow. That's because his policies are more cultural markers than they are actual, well, policies. Trump seems to say things to show people that he's like them rather than to show them what he'd like to do. One day that might be saying that he'll pay off the entire national debt in eight years, and the next that actually "this is the time to borrow;" that he wants to raise taxes on the rich, and actually slash them; or that he thinks the Fed should raise rates, and actually keep them where they are. He's able to pull this off even when he isn't telling his supporters what they usually like to hear, because more important than what he says is how he says it. It's the anger, the affect, the sense that he not only feels their pain but shares their rage that matters here.
It's post-policy politics. It's about having the right feelings instead of the right proposals.
I agree. I listened to Trump's Q&A before veterans, and most of the questions were "What will you do about (fill in the blank"? and I have to say that he managed to avoid answering most of the questions by simply criticizing previous administrations, or by providing general answers ("I'm going to make the VA something to be proud of") without providing any specifics.
And what Trump says reveals a person who is, unsurprisingly, totally unfamiliar with how government works. In Trump's world, when he says something, people scurry to get accomplished. OR they drag their feet and wait for Trump to come to his sense because they know he was just thinking out loud. Not so in the WH! Although the President has vast administrative powers, some of Trump's greatest goals will require an OK from Congress.
CA had its own Trump-like governor, and that was Ahhhnold (Schwarzenegger) who was elected to be The Terminator in response to former Governor Gray Davis, who was gray in every way. Despite Ahhhnold's lack of experience, it wasn't a total disaster.
In any case, there is only one reason for me to vote for Trump, and that is Hillary.
Throughout her political career, she has dedicated herself to war, more war, and even more war. Wars of aggression, I might add, not defensive wars.
All of you, as Hillary's useful minions, have failed to show that she would back away from wars of aggression, or that YOU would back away from wars of aggression. Also, she likes "free trade", banks and big pharma. Donald is not Hillary, and he is running on a campaign that is distinctly different that hers. He doesn't have big banks, big pharma and (especially) the deep state necocons backing him. What's not to like about that?
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Second - if you REALLY BELIEVE that Hillary will win - AND ALSO - if you REALLY BELIEVE that she might not - either way, you should forget Donald.
You need to focus on
- what will make Hillary a better candidate?
- what will make Hillary a better president?
Because if she's going to win, then Donald doesn't matter. But if she might lose, it's not just that Donald is gaining ground, it's also that Hillary is losing. And Hillary is losing because of the issues she's tried to lie her way around or ignore, rather than addressing up front.
Why Is Trump Gaining On Clinton?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-is-trump-gaining-on-clinton/
harry (Harry Enten, senior political writer): Clinton got a large convention bounce. In our polls-only model, for example, Clinton got as high as an 89 percent chance of winning and was projected to win the national vote by 8.6 percentage points. But since mid-August, her chances have fallen steadily. Right now, she’s at a 69 percent chance of winning and only is projected to win the national vote by 3.9 percentage points.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Quote:Hillary needs to show more empathy to bring out the contrast between Democrats and Republicans:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Second - if you REALLY BELIEVE that Hillary will win - AND ALSO - if you REALLY BELIEVE that she might not - either way, you should forget Donald.
You need to focus on
- what will make Hillary a better candidate?
- what will make Hillary a better president?
In the aftermath of the 2001 terror attack on the World Trade Center, Donald Trump, a billionaire son of New York City, did not make a single charitable donation to any of the not-for-profit groups that provided aid to survivors, rescue workers, or the families of cops and firemen who died trying to save others, Internal Revenue Service records show.
....In a December 2003 report detailing the “unprecedented outpouring of charitable support” following the 9/11 attacks, The Foundation Center noted that nearly 1300 foundations, corporations, and other institutional donors gave a total of $1.1 billion for recovery and relief efforts....But Trump, whose family first became wealthy renting apartments to the working class in Brooklyn and Queens, chose not to take part.
www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/donald-trump-empathy-gap-754
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Quote:I think you need to be reminded that Obama had a huge head-start over Romney and it evaporated. Is there any Democrat more steady than Obama and any Republican, except Trump, a bigger weirdo liar than Romney? And yet Obama was being overtaken by Romney.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Because if she's going to win, then Donald doesn't matter. But if she might lose, it's not just that Donald is gaining ground, it's also that Hillary is losing. And Hillary is losing because of the issues she's tried to lie her way around or ignore, rather than addressing up front.
www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/
If that election could have been delayed a week than this election would be President Romney vs Senator Hillary.
www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_ro
mney_vs_obama-1171.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_elec
tion_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
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