TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Identity Politics Run Amok
David Brooks SEPT. 2, 2016
www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/opinion/identity-politics-run-amok.html
Trump's immigration speech returned to the class and race tropes that have defined his campaign: that the American government is in the grips of a rich oligarchy that distorts everything for its benefit; that the American people are besieged by foreigners, who take their jobs and threaten their lives.
It’s not that these two ideas are completely wrong. The rich do have more influence. There are indeed some foreigners who seek to harm us. It is just that Trump (like other race and class warriors) takes these kernels of truth and grows them into a lie.
Trump argues that immigration has sown chaos across middle-class neighborhoods. This is false. Research suggests that the recent surge in immigration has made America’s streets safer. That’s because foreign-born men are very unlikely to commit violent crime.
www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says
According to one study, only 2 or 3 percent of Mexican-, Guatemalan- or Salvadoran-born men without a high school degree end up incarcerated, compared with 11 percent of their American-born counterparts.
Trump argues that the flood of immigrants is taking jobs away from unskilled native workers. But this is mainly false, too. There’s an intricate debate among economists about this, but if you survey the whole literature on the subject you find that most research shows immigration has very little effect on native wage or unemployment levels.
That’s because immigrants flow into different types of unskilled jobs. Unskilled immigrants tend to become maids, cooks and farm workers — jobs that require less English. Unskilled natives tend to become cashiers and drivers. If immigrants are driving down wages, it is mostly those of other immigrants.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/immigrants-arent-stealing
-american-jobs/433158/
Trump claims the rich benefit from immigration while everyone else suffers. Doctors get cheap nannies, everyone else gets the shaft.
This is false, too. The fact is, a vast majority of Americans benefit. A study by John McLaren of U.Va. and Gihoon Hong of Indiana University found that each new immigrant produced about 1.2 new jobs, because immigrants are producers and consumers and increase overall economic activity.
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/05/actually-immigration-can-
create-jobs/391997/
A report from the Partnership for a New American Economy found that immigrants accounted for 28 percent of all new small businesses in 2011. Between 2006 and 2012, over 40 percent of tech start-ups in Silicon Valley had at least one foreign-born founder.
The cities that are doing best economically work hard to attract new immigrants because the benefits are widely shared. As Ted Hesson points out in The Atlantic, New York, Chicago, Houston and Los Angeles account for about 20 percent of America’s economic output, and in those places, immigrants can make up as much as 44 percent of the total labor supply.
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/us-cities-immigrants-econ
omy/398987/
Identity politics distorts politics in two ways. First, it is Manichaean. It cleanly divides the world into opposing forces of light and darkness. You are a worker or an elite. You are American or foreigner.
Seeing this way is understandable if you are scared, but it is also a sign of intellectual laziness. The reality is that people can’t be reduced to a single story. An issue as complex as immigration can’t be reduced to a cartoon. It is simultaneously true that immigration fuels American dynamism and that the mixture of mass unskilled immigration and the high-tech economy threatens to create a permanent underclass.
Second and most important, identity politics is inherently the politics of division. But on most issues — whether it is immigration or the economy or national security — we rise and fall together. Immigration, even a reasonable amount of illegal immi
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Quote:People who think Obama was born in Kenya will think Trump is truthful.
Originally posted by G:
You are thinking too much Second. You will never change the minds of Trump followers like that.
Couple thoughts:
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinto
n-donald-trump-truth-o-met/
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September 13: Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi tells the Orlando Sentinel that her office is "currently reviewing the allegations" that Trump University has defrauded its students.
September 17: The Trump Foundation makes a $25,000 contribution to a PAC backing Bondi. The Florida Attorney General's office backtracks, telling the Orlando Sentinel there was never any consideration of joining the lawsuit against Trump U because they had received only one complaint during the time Bondi was in office. This was untrue: the AG's office had received a couple dozen complaints, but had weeded them out so they could say there was only one.
We have a case that's a mere hair's breadth away from Donald Trump bribing the Attorney General of Florida, who is a Republican. There's only the slightest wiggle room for believing that the events in Florida are all just a big coincidence. Maybe they deserve a little bit of front-page attention?
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/09/did-donald-trump-try-bribe-atto
rney-general-florida
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In Three Steps Trump Reveals His Secret Plan to Defeat ISIS!
1) "I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me." Everybody believes, except Hillary.
www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10154213275786509
2) "All I can tell you is that it is a foolproof way of winning." The only one fooled is Hillary.
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/28/donald-trump-declines-share-h
is-foolproof-plan-win/
3) Sept 6, 2016: "I am also going to convene my top generals and give them a simple instruction: They will have 30 days to submit to the Oval Office a plan for defeating ISIS."
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-isil-isis-227807#ixzz4JWjH
CBMe
All Trump’s Generals, if he wins, will be Obama’s Generals until noon on Inauguration Day. Or Hillary’s Generals after noon if she wins. Therefore Hillary knows as much today as Trump has ever known about Trump’s Secret Plan to Defeat ISIS! I guess we never needed Trump’s secret knowledge about ISIS in order to defeat ISIS after all. Sad!
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From what I understand, there were some 8,000 Trump "students" looking for justice in Florida.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
September 13: Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi tells the Orlando Sentinel that her office is "currently reviewing the allegations" that Trump University has defrauded its students.
September 17: The Trump Foundation makes a $25,000 contribution to a PAC backing Bondi. The Florida Attorney General's office backtracks, telling the Orlando Sentinel there was never any consideration of joining the lawsuit against Trump U because they had received only one complaint during the time Bondi was in office. This was untrue: the AG's office had received a couple dozen complaints, but had weeded them out so they could say there was only one.
We have a case that's a mere hair's breadth away from Donald Trump bribing the Attorney General of Florida, who is a Republican. There's only the slightest wiggle room for believing that the events in Florida are all just a big coincidence. Maybe they deserve a little bit of front-page attention?
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/09/did-donald-trump-try-bribe-atto
rney-general-florida
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Yes, Trump knows everything, doesn't he? He has no ISIS plan. He gave it away
when he said that he would give his generals 30 days to submit a plan.
You know he's lying Trump, right!?
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
In Three Steps Trump Reveals His Secret Plan to Defeat ISIS!
1) "I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me." Everybody believes, except Hillary.
www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10154213275786509
2) "All I can tell you is that it is a foolproof way of winning." The only one fooled is Hillary.
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/28/donald-trump-declines-share-h
is-foolproof-plan-win/
3) Sept 6, 2016: "I am also going to convene my top generals and give them a simple instruction: They will have 30 days to submit to the Oval Office a plan for defeating ISIS."
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-isil-isis-227807#ixzz4JWjH
CBMe
All Trump’s Generals, if he wins, will be Obama’s Generals until noon on Inauguration Day. Or Hillary’s Generals after noon if she wins. Therefore Hillary knows as much today as Trump has ever known about Trump’s Secret Plan to Defeat ISIS! I guess we never needed Trump’s secret knowledge about ISIS in order to defeat ISIS after all. Sad!
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Another group that loses if Trump wins? Animals.
When asked about his sons’ bloody hobby, Trump demurred except to say that his sons are excellent marksmen. Trump Junior, meanwhile, says he’d like to head the Department of the Interior, which, among other things, oversees trophy hunting imports. Under Obama, elephant trophies from Tanzania and Zimbabwe were halted and African lions were listed as threatened. What would a trophy-hunting Trump do with such protections?
Meanwhile, the Republican nominee’s anti-animal animus may be gleaned from his choice of agriculture advisers, which the Humane Society Legislative Fund has called a “rogues gallery” of anti-animal welfare activists. (Disclaimer: My son works for the Humane Society.)
Foremost is Forrest Lucas, billionaire founder of Protect the Harvest, an organization focused on fighting the Humane Society and opposing any legislation aimed at restricting cruel animal practices in the production of meat, dairy and eggs.
But such humane propositions are viewed by Lucas’ group as unnecessarily restrictive to business, limiting our freedoms and attacking our all-too-American culture.
Also on the committee is Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, who has the distinction of being the first governor to sign into law an “ag-gag” measure that punishes whistleblowers, giving factory farmers free rein over animal welfare and worker safety. The bill’s sponsor, former Iowa state Rep. Annette Sweeney, is also a Trump adviser. Another adviser, former Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman, vetoed a bill to end the sport hunting of mountain lions and has defended factory farming practices that many happy omnivores find reprehensible, including the use of battery cages and gestation crates.
Let’s just say that Trump's selection of advisers, coupled with a cavalier attitude toward his sons’ big-game hunting, bodes ill for animals and the protections so many Americans find both reasonable and desirable.
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-group-that-loses-if-trump-wins
-animals/2016/09/06/270eb888-7478-11e6-be4f-3f42f2e5a49e_story.html?utm_term=.8e0a78a8ce1c
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Larry King Dupes Donald Trump Into Interview on Russian TV
Today we learn just how easy it is to trick Donald Trump. Yesterday he was interviewed by Larry King on RT, a TV network funded by the Russian government. That's probably not a good look, especially for a candidate already viewed as alarmingly cozy with Vladimir Putin. So what happened?
Quote:Poor Donald. He used to be so sharp.
Kevin Cirilli @kevcirilli
Trump campaign spokeswoman says that they thought Larry King interview was going to be on King's podcast -- not RT.
8:44 PM - 8 Sep 2016
https://twitter.com/kevcirilli/status/774060857483403270
Quote:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I never fall for scams. I am the only person who immediately walked out of my ‘Ali G’ interview
10:44 AM - 30 Oct 2012
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/263335564412076032
Except Trump lied about immediately walking out of Ali G interview
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-and-putin-a-love-story
“Putin wants the United States to be taken up with its own problems, and forget about things like Ukraine and Crimea,” Sergei Parkhomenko, an activist and broadcaster for Echo of Moscow, told me. “It seems to him that, if the United States elects Trump, all of America will be taken up for at least a year trying to ‘digest’ him.
“But there is a second reason,” Parkhomenko continued. “Putin is convinced that absolutely everything in this world is done for money. He is a religious fanatic, and money is his god. With money, it is possible to solve any problem, buy any interlocutor. He bought the Olympic Games, he bought the World Cup. It will be easy to deal with Trump. He won’t need to use words in negotiations, only figures. When they don’t agree, it will only be necessary to find the right price.”
Vladimir Putin is a cunning and cynical reader of his adversaries. He notices that Trump does not know the difference between the Quds Force and the Kurds, or what the “nuclear triad” is; that his analysis of Brexit was based in part on what might be good for his golf courses in Britain; that his knowledge of world affairs is roughly that of someone who subscribes to a daily newspaper but doesn’t always have time to get to it. Overwhelmed with his own problems at home, Putin sees the ready benefit in having the United States led by an unlettered narcissist who believes that geo-strategic questions are as easy to resolve as a real-estate closing.
Putin knows a chump when he sees one.
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Trump's not going to win. Though Clinton may lose.
WHY did the democrats shoehorn such a weak candidate into the slot, again?
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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