TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Debates.....can't wait!!!
SGG
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Hey Second,
"clashing with a Gold Star family, making comments that have been seen as inciting violence and linking his political opponents to terrorism."
That line is more true than not. On Saturday I saw a news story that broke in the early afternoon in New York. It seems some mentally challenged idiot took it upon himself to shoot 2 innocent men as they were walking home after attending prayer services in their neighborhood Mosque. They were shot in the head execution style from behind. This is the result of Trump's vile rhetoric. I wish someone would shoot him in the head and put him out of his misery (the miserable S.O.B.).
The police have a video of the shooting from a nearby business. The coward
approach them from behind shot, and then ran for his life. There was no robbery and no other obvious motive. Police are investigating this as a possible hate crime.
SGG
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Quote:There is no "we". First of all, it is exclusively the Republicans' problem because Democrats and Hillary are not supporting the Republicans' brainstorm on illegals.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what are you saying, SECOND?
That "we" should allow or even encourage the presence of illegal immigrants because Republican businessmen want to exploit them?
Whose side are you on?
Next, Trump is full of bullshit. That guy is all talk and no do. He has talked about removing illegals but his talk boils down to the illegals will buy a bus ticket back to Guatemala. Self deportation of illegals is his entire plan. Trump has no plans that actually involve paying to be rid of illegals. Remember the wall along the Mexican border? Trump would have Mexico build the wall. The USA would pay nothing. Also, obviously repeating the point so you remember, the Democrats and Hillary are not supporting Trump and his deportation of illegals. You can't blame Democrats for Trump and his supporters being full of bullshit and refusing to pay for removing illegals.
To summarize: on the Republican side, voters and Congress and Trump say they want illegal aliens out of the USA, but none of them are doing the work or paying the money or increasing the number of judges hearing deportation cases in order to make it happen. Are these Republicans full of bullshit or not?
I think the Republicans want the Democrats to pay all the costs and do all the work for removing the illegals. Republicans don't want to do their own work, but they can't stop talking about what they want. Texas Gov Greg Abbott and Rick Perry talked about it, but certainly didn't do anything because the Republican controlled legislature would not pay. Abbott and Perry could not get the Republican controlled counties to pay. Obama could not pay because Republican controlled Congress would not pay.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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From Finian Cunningham
Donald Trump has entered a political kill zone.
Quote:All of them neocons.
And the American establishment is lining up to take him out. We are talking here in virtual terms - at least thus far.
Nowadays, political assassination by US powers-that-be does not necessarily involve physical liquidation of the individual deemed to be an enemy of the state. Who needs all that blood and controversy? Especially when character assassination achieves the same desired end result — that is, elimination of target from the public domain.
The fierce media crossfire that the Republican presidential contender is being subjected to leaves little doubt that this is a concerted effort to destroy this politician.
In the past week, we have seen a fusillade of vilification fired at the New York property tycoon-turned presidential hopeful. Everything, it seems, has been thrown at him, from his Slovenian-born wife's alleged US visa violations, to his bullying of crying babies at rallies, to his serving as an unwitting agent for Russian leader Vladimir Putin.
It's so transparent and preposterous, it is almost hilarious.
Evidently, the US corporate news media are out to bring Trump down in spite of his stubborn support among ordinary Republican voters. It is obvious that the Washington establishment has determined that Democrat rival Hillary Clinton is the preferred choice to protect their privileged interests as the next occupant of the White House.
And the US media — as a pillar of the establishment — is doing its bit to eliminate Trump from the supposedly free presidential election due in November by aiding and abetting in assassinating his character in the eyes of the public.
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton addresses the Democratic National Convention via a live video feed from New York during the second night at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US, July 26, 2016.
© REUTERS/ Mark Kauzlarich
If Hillary Becomes US President, She 'Will Look for Excuses to Bomb Damascus'
It is ironic really given that there is so much more sordid stories to be reported on Clinton, given her involvement in warmongering, clandestine regime-change operations and abuse of state secrecy for her own self-aggrandizement with foreign sources of money.
The latest sign that the secretive US Deep State — Pentagon, CIA, FBI, Wall Street financiers — is moving to install their White House candidate is the letter published this week by some 50 senior Republican "national security experts" who endorsed Clinton while eviscerating Trump.
Yes, that's right, Republicans backing a Democrat. Which just goes to show the uniformity of interests.
The signatories included former CIA director Michael Hayden, ex-chief of homeland security Michael Chertoff, both of whom served in the George W Bush administration, as well as John Negroponte who was a former director of national intelligence and alleged purveyor of death squads in Central America during the 1980s.
The joint anti-Trump letter followed the publication only days ago of an oped piece in the New York Times by another ex-CIA head, Michael Morell in which he lambasted Trump as a Russian stooge.
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All of these figures are intimately connected to the US Deep State and all are unanimously pillorying Trump as a "dangerous threat to American national security".
For his part, Trump rebuffed the latest volley of vilification by saying that the list of national security "experts" are responsible for creating the Iraq war, the loss of American troops' lives and the rise of terrorism across the Middle East. Cheekily, he thanked them for all going public with their names so that the American people can hold them to account for foreign policy disasters.
However, the point here is that the campaign to discredit Trump is not just some haphazard run of bad luck on the candidate's part for mis-steps and mis-speaks that he may have issued on the husNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
So many people talk about Trump without having even listened to him. Aside from the snippets of one or two words that the press delightedly serves up and replays over and over, and the fake news stories -like the Secret Service having talked to Trump about his Second Amendment, which officials had to come out and deny (quietly) - most people probably don't know what Trump has actually said.
So here is a Trump news conference. I hate political speeches, especially long ones, but this is a good sampling of Trump. Some of it is awkward, some of it is self-aggrandizing, a little bit of it is cringe-worthy, but there are also many rational, reasonable statements in it.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while." In this allegory, Trump is both the squirrel and the nut.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So here is a Trump news conference. I hate political speeches, especially long ones, but this is a good sampling of Trump. Some of it is awkward, some of it is self-aggrandizing, a little bit of it is cringe-worthy, but there are also many rational, reasonable statements in it.
Words cost Trump nothing, so he talks too much. What do you think he will say about this on Monday morning? Manafort is Trump's campaign manager. "Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012, according to Ukraine’s newly formed National Anti-Corruption Bureau. Investigators assert that the disbursements were part of an illegal off-the-books system whose recipients also included election officials."
www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-tr
ump.html
Mr. Manafort did not receive “any such cash payments,” his lawyer said. You betcha.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Signym
You know, when you make blanket statements like that, well suffice it to say
that there are some of us who do use our better judgment and actually "look
before we leap."
I, for one, do listen to his long-winded speeches so that I may decide in what context did he say the stupid things he says. Every once in a while he
actually says something that makes sense; either by accident or because his "people" right it for him. That's just MY observation. I will listen and watch this speech later today, then I will make an informed decision if it actually makes sense.
Mean while there seems to be trouble brewing in paradise.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/secret-ledger-in-ukraine-lists-
cash-for-donald-trump%E2%80%99s-campaign-chief/ar-BBvCJjt?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So many people talk about Trump without having even listened to him. Aside from the snippets of one or two words that the press delightedly serves up and replays over and over, and the fake news stories -like the Secret Service having talked to Trump about his Second Amendment, which officials had to come out and deny (quietly) - most people probably don't know what Trump has actually said.
So here is a Trump news conference. I hate political speeches, especially long ones, but this is a good sampling of Trump. Some of it is awkward, some of it is self-aggrandizing, a little bit of it is cringe-worthy, but there are also many rational, reasonable statements in it.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:The GOP will say about this what the DNC said about the Clinton Foundation getting lots of money from terrorist-funding Saudis. Too bad the DOJ quashed that nascent FBI investigation on that.
I look forward to hearing what the GOP has to say in response to this
Quote:On the many people who talk about Trump without having listened to him. People that I know personally, and some here on the board that I strongly suspect. According to you: not you.
"So many people talk about Trump without having even listened to him. " You're basing that on what?
Quote:I didn't make a blanket statement. If you were to look up the meaning of the phrase "blanket statement" it says ... A blanket statement is a generalization - something that covers everything like a metaphorical blanket. If I had said "EVERYONE talks about Trump without even having listened to him..." THAT would have been a blanket statement. Apparently you, like G, felt unfairly criticized by that statement. If you (pl) felt unfairly accused, I apologize.
You know, when you make blanket statements like that, well suffice it to say that there are some of us who do use our better judgment and actually "look
before we leap."
Quote:This is one person whom I think has never listened to Trump, because everything she says is everything that someone else has said. So, SECOND, based on the press conference, what did you agree with?
"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while." In this allegory, Trump is both the squirrel and the nut.
Quote:Then why did you quote Republican businessmen in a way that, in context, sounded like agreement?
So, what are you saying, SECOND? That "we" should allow or even encourage the presence of illegal immigrants because Republican businessmen want to exploit them? Whose side are you on?- SIGNY
There is no "we". -SECOND
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:What Trump could say about Manafort, his campaign manager, is "You're fired." Then he introduces his new manager. Presidents fire and hire people all the time. As does Trump.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The GOP will say about this what the DNC said about the Clinton Foundation getting lots of money from terrorist-funding Saudis. Too bad the DOJ quashed that nascent FBI investigation on that.
I look forward to hearing what the GOP has to say in response to this
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:It's the Republicans' problem, not the Democrats'. Let the Reps handle it, except Reps in power don't handle the problem because they don't want to pay. What they do want is the votes of people who want illegals deported. Even the voters who say they want illegals deported won't confront the problem they would create for themselves --- those voters would have to take the crappy jobs left unfilled by illegals. They could have those right this minute, but they don't want those smelly nasty outdoor jobs at crappy wages. Those Republicans who know conversational Spanish can have a job today in sanitary sewer replacement. No need to wait for President Trump.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Then why did you quote Republican businessmen?
So, what are you saying, SECOND? That "we" should allow or even encourage the presence of illegal immigrants because Republican businessmen want to exploit them? Whose side are you on?- SIGNY
There is no "we". -SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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