Jason Bourne, 2016
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Thursday, August 11, 2016 04:50
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Regarding plot holes.
There is potentially one, I have not decided yet, partly to ponder on it more, and partly to avoid spoiling my enjoyment.
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The originating premise for this installment of the franchise. Nikki, who we have watched for 14 years now, a former CIA field support agent, decides to hack into CIA database in violation of her security training, practices, principles. No doubt understanding that many will brand her a traitor, I felt this development was treated somewhat flippantly. Some have mentioned that this topic of exposing secrets ala Snowden or wikileaks is current events, but I have not yet convinced myself that this was within her character.
Perhaps Stiles wanted out of her contract, perhaps this was intended to be a passing of the torch for female colleagues of Bourne (Joan Allen is not in this installment) from Nikki to Lee. If so, Nikki was able to survive many films without drawing credible suspicions of Bourne, and Lee has not managed to survive even one film without proving her disloyalty.
Because this is the foundational premise for the whole beginning of the film, we may need to ignore it. But as a stand-alone plot device, it does not sit right with me - at least for this character.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is SGG whining about a thread which BELONGS in Cinema forum getting diverted to a RW exchange? Really? After putting an EXPLICITLY RWED TOPIC in General Discussion forum? Really?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60670
If you are speaking to me, I thought you had delved into RW with your comment, but upon reflection you may have not intended to. I did consider the ramifications but did not think I was the initiator.
I tried to make clear that although you were responding to the Hilliary's America topic, I did still recommend Bourne.
I rarely bring politics into Cinema unless, of course, the topic of the film is political. For example: American Sniper, Flags of Our Fathers or even Gran Torino.
SGG
While claiming to avoid politics in Cinema, you do exactly the opposite. By claiming that non-political films are viewed by you as political, you bare your bias and imbalance. A biographical quasi-documentary like American Sniper (Chris Kyle really was a sniper - really), a historical reflection like Flags of Our Fathers (World War II really did happen, The Marines really did assault and take over Iwo Jima, and really planted a flag on Mount Suribachi - really), or a developing geezer-to-youth friendship like Gran Torino - yet you portray them as being political. Yet left-wing extremist hype like Michael Moore garbage you probably consider factual documentaries instead of the extremely politically motivated diatribes that they are.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Did I!? Now, I'm not sure. I've been doing that lately, posting to one when I meant to post/respond to another.
I apologize if I responded to you, when it was meant for JSF.
I hope that clears things up.
SGG
You replying to JSF makes more sense. You replying to me in such a way was really odd. Made me wonder... whatever.
I admit I broke the rules by bringing up RWED stuff here, but I did so because I will never go back to those boards. There is no point. I checked in over the past few days and I've been thoroughly amused at how sig has replaced rappy as the OMWPiR (Obviously Most Whacked Poster in RWED). This is especially rich considering that the battle between Sig and Rap kept RWED alive for years. I have my own theories about this history, which are backed up by past and present events.
But what's the point? Sig/Kik is clearly a OMWPiR Russian troll. You all have proved it. Any further discussion is moot. (See what I did there?)
Anyhow, I do apologize for hijacking this thread a bit, but the Bourne movie was so obviously bad that I feel no need for further discussion of it. Also, JSF's objections to my review are meaningless. This is the tool that thought that the Tom Cruise character in Edge of Tomorrow was a misunderstood awesome hero from the get-go. I have no need to debate such a whacked brain.
Posters on this site are good for a laugh now and then, I do admit.
Yeah, I'll probably continue to to be scarce, because there is no point in posting here. No minds that remain at this site will ever change, nor will they have discussions that are worth while. The only upside to checking in is to enjoy the irony of our local "intellectual" siggy jumping on the Drumph wagon.
OK, I may check in again from time to time just to enjoy the fallout of that lol. Signym is all for Trump. There is no emoji good enough for this.
I have so thoroughly hijacked. Sorry. Ban me. :p
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Hey M4P,
There is no need to apologize for anything. You spoke your mind and that's what this site is about, a la Firefly, Browncoat, Serenity style. I have my own theory about some posters here, including myself, but I digress.
Good to hear from you, nonetheless.
My crime, if you will, is continuing to post (often when I have a little down time at work), but, from time to time, I have taken a break because,
believe it or not, I do the normal day to day things everyone else does.
But you know I do appreciate your take on film and I try not to bring the
heavy load of politics, especially with the aforementioned folks.
To be honest, I did get caught up in the craziness of it all and actually
lost my senses, what little I had left, along the way on a couple of
occasions. So I know what you mean about keeping your distance. Thanks for bringing a little sanity to the board.
Your friend,
SGG
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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Did I!? Now, I'm not sure. I've been doing that lately, posting to one when I meant to post/respond to another.
I apologize if I responded to you, when it was meant for JSF.
I hope that clears things up.
SGG
You replying to JSF makes more sense. You replying to me in such a way was really odd. Made me wonder... whatever.
I admit I broke the rules by bringing up RWED stuff here, but I did so because I will never go back to those boards. There is no point. I checked in over the past few days and I've been thoroughly amused at how sig has replaced rappy as the OMWPiR (Obviously Most Whacked Poster in RWED). This is especially rich considering that the battle between Sig and Rap kept RWED alive for years. I have my own theories about this history, which are backed up by past and present events.
But what's the point? Sig/Kik is clearly a OMWPiR Russian troll. You all have proved it. Any further discussion is moot. (See what I did there?)
Anyhow, I do apologize for hijacking this thread a bit, but the Bourne movie was so obviously bad that I feel no need for further discussion of it. Also, JSF's objections to my review are meaningless. This is the tool that thought that the Tom Cruise character in Edge of Tomorrow was a misunderstood awesome hero from the get-go. I have no need to debate such a whacked brain.
Posters on this site are good for a laugh now and then, I do admit.
Yeah, I'll probably continue to to be scarce, because there is no point in posting here. No minds that remain at this site will ever change, nor will they have discussions that are worth while. The only upside to checking in is to enjoy the irony of our local "intellectual" siggy jumping on the Drumph wagon.
OK, I may check in again from time to time just to enjoy the fallout of that lol. Signym is all for Trump. There is no emoji good enough for this.
I have so thoroughly hijacked. Sorry. Ban me. :p
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Battle is the Great Redeemer. It is the fiery crucible in which true heroes are forged. The one place where all men truly share the same rank, regardless of what kind of parasitic scum they were going in.
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Hey JSF,
Yes, Michael Moore's films are extremely politically motivated and very left. I reject the notion that I am imbalanced, and yes we all have biases. And yes, the films I mentioned are political to varying degrees, and based on real stories.
I am not afraid to admit that. You have your beliefs as do I. I think that's about it, nothing more to discuss. We agree to disagree, as usual.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is SGG whining about a thread which BELONGS in Cinema forum getting diverted to a RW exchange? Really? After putting an EXPLICITLY RWED TOPIC in General Discussion forum? Really?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60670
If you are speaking to me, I thought you had delved into RW with your comment, but upon reflection you may have not intended to. I did consider the ramifications but did not think I was the initiator.
I tried to make clear that although you were responding to the Hilliary's America topic, I did still recommend Bourne.
I rarely bring politics into Cinema unless, of course, the topic of the film is political. For example: American Sniper, Flags of Our Fathers or even Gran Torino.
SGG
While claiming to avoid politics in Cinema, you do exactly the opposite. By claiming that non-political films are viewed by you as political, you bare your bias and imbalance. A biographical quasi-documentary like American Sniper (Chris Kyle really was a sniper - really), a historical reflection like Flags of Our Fathers (World War II really did happen, The Marines really did assault and take over Iwo Jima, and really planted a flag on Mount Suribachi - really), or a developing geezer-to-youth friendship like Gran Torino - yet you portray them as being political. Yet left-wing extremist hype like Michael Moore garbage you probably consider factual documentaries instead of the extremely politically motivated diatribes that they are.
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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Signym is all for Trump. There is no emoji good enough for this.
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Battle is the Great Redeemer. It is the fiery crucible in which true heroes are forged. The one place where all men truly share the same rank, regardless of what kind of parasitic scum they were going in.
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Signym has identified the exact same as every other believable poster: Anybody but Hilliary. Which makes your claim lacking in foresight or clarity. Sig has not specified which remaining candidate. So your claim would be wrong at this point.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60586&mid=10116
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