TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Quote:Very sorry I misunderstood you. But what is your opinion of refugees? Is it for refugees? (Hillary's and my position) Is your opinion against refugees? (Trump's position) Or is your opinion "moot"? Which leaves me with another question: Does "moot" mean you're still debating with yourself what your opinion is? Or does it mean "no opinion"? Or does it mean you're waiting for some event to help you to decide what your opinion is?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
" So you've got no opinion on refugees, either. "
Thanks for falsely imputing notions to me. Again.
With your chronic lying, you've made it clear you have no interest in reasonable discussion at all.
And there is still the Supreme Court question. Do you want another Antonin Scalia? (Trump's position) Or a Merrick Garland? (Hillary's and Obama's position) Or a Ruth Bader Ginsburg? (My position) Or you don't care because nobody nominated by a Democratic President will ever get past GOP's Mitch McConnell unless the nominee is a Scalia clone?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tell you what, second.
IF you apologize for lying about me. and
IF you respond to a factual post of mine. and
IF don't evade the topic, lie, or snark. and
IF you support your claims with links and cites.
I'll discuss one of yours.
This is what I'm talking about.
I checked 1kiki's Hillary scoop at Snopes, famous for investigating internet rumors. Lie #1.
Not mine, honey.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-slipping-on-stairs/ Lie #2.
Not mine either.
I did look at it. Hillary looked unusually slow and careful going up the stairs. She could have been drugged, drunk, dizzy, or just old and tired. And she clearly tripped at the top, she didn't just 'fall'. But even if she tripped over 'nothing' - she was dragging a toe - it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Which is why I didn't address it.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-demanded-this-photo-be-removed/ 1kiki forgot to mention this one. Lie #3.
I didn't 'forget'. I just didn't post it.
So now you know what's in my mind well enough to attribute thoughts to me? Are you that mean, or that stupid, or what? You tell me. How do you explain your fabrications?
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/
As Snopes says: "Red bullets mark claims which cannot be established as true by a preponderance of (reliable) evidence." Which doesn't mean 'false' for your information. It means - as SNOPES clearly indicated, "unproven".
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-demanded-this-photo-be-removed/ 1kiki forgot to mention this one. Lie #4.
I didn't 'forget'. I just didn't post it.
So now you know what's in my mind well enough to attribute thoughts to me? Are you that mean, or that stupid, or what? You tell me. How do you explain your fabrications?
After looking at each of 1kiki's pieces of disinformation ... Lie #5.
Nope. Just ONE of the things I posted was even addressed by SNOPES. And you falsely attributed three to me I excluded.
Those are my requirements.
After you.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Quote:You won't tell me yes or no, for or against, Muslim refugee entering the USA unless I do as you demand. And even then you might not respond with an answer other than "moot".
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Tell you what, second.
After you.
Trump says he would bring millions of 50-cent-an-hour jobs back from China and — even though he opposes a higher minimum wage — somehow transform them into high-paying jobs.
How? I believe it is a complete fantasy. As does Hillary. No one will ever know what 1kiki believes.
Donald Trump Has No Jobs Plan At All
by Kevin Drum, Aug. 8, 2016, 8:24 PM
Will cutting taxes on the rich, combined with reducing regulation on Wall Street and big corporations, create millions of jobs, as Donald Trump claims? As you may recall, we tried that tonic fairly recently during the presidency of George W. Bush. It didn't really turn out so well. The graphs of Bush’s job creation, going year by year, are here:
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/08/donald-trump-has-no-jobs-plan-a
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Jobs started to recover sooner on Obama's watch than Bush's, probably thanks to his stimulus package. Bush just cut taxes on the rich and left it at that.
Based on his speech this morning, there's no real difference between Bush and Trump on economic policy except for Trump's claim that he'll get tough on trade. I doubt that, myself, but it hardly matters. Renegotiating a couple of trade treaties just wouldn't generate very many jobs. Done badly, in fact—a pretty likely scenario in a Trump presidency—it would hurt job growth. Trade wars have a habit of doing that.
Note that I'm not really making a case for the brilliance of Obama's economic policies here. I'm just pointing out that Trump's policies are little more than the same tedious stuff we've heard from Republicans for years. If he thinks this tired old rehash is going to supercharge the economy, he ought to at least make some kind of case for it. It didn't work for Bush. Why should it work for Trump?
And don't even think of pretending that 9/11 ruined the economy under Bush. It had only a minor, short-term effect. If anything, spending on Bush's wars acted as a stimulus.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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All I'm asking is for normal, everyday, honesty and common courtesy.
But this was your reply "My God! You have morphed into Donald Trump. You write like he talks!"
You have not replied in a way that gives me confidence you can engage in productive discussion. You repeatedly tried to bait me with lies about me, you've lied about the topic, ignored the facts, ignored my posts, and engaged in trolling. Until you show me you can discuss with honesty and civility, I have no interest in you.
If you want to proceed, you need to apologize for your behavior, which has been dishonest and manipulative, and show me you can converse normally.
After you.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Quote:Trump should release taxes returns
Originally posted by 1kiki:
All I'm asking is for normal, everyday, honesty and common courtesy.
But this was your reply "My God! You have morphed into Donald Trump. You write like he talks!"
You have not replied in a way that gives me confidence you can engage in productive discussion. You repeatedly tried to bait me with lies about me, you've lied about the topic, ignored the facts, ignored my posts, and engaged in trolling. Until you show me you can discuss with honesty and civility, I have no interest in you.
If you want to proceed, you need to apologize for your behavior, which has been dishonest and manipulative, and show me you can converse normally.
After you.
www.cnn.com/2016/08/08/politics/sean-duffy-donald-trump-taxes/
Yesterday in Detroit Trump mentioned his tax-cutting, regulation-curbing plans that are squarely mainstream in his party. He shared few new policy details and continued to offer no specifics for how he would pay for tax cuts or spending increases large enough to balloon the federal budget deficit. He promised more clarity in coming weeks. He said nothing about his personal tax returns.
Wisconsin Rep. Sean Duffy, a Republican, said Monday he thinks Donald Trump should release his tax returns. "I think he should release his taxes," Duffy told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room." "I think he should. We deserve all the information about these candidates that we can get our hands on to make an educated vote in November," he told Blitzer.
Trump said in May he would make his tax returns public when the "routine audit" they are under is complete, though the IRS has said there is nothing legally keeping him from releasing them while they under review. "In interview I told @AP that my taxes are under routine audit and I would release my tax returns when audit is complete, not after election!" the real estate mogul tweeted.
And Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort has said he doesn't think the Republican nominee will release his returns -- saying the documents are "incredibly complicated" and the American people wouldn't understand them.
The GOP's 2012 nominee, Mitt Romney, has called Trump's decision not to release his returns "disqualifying."
"Mr. Trump says he is being audited," Romney wrote in a Facebook post in May. "So? There is nothing that prevents releasing tax returns that are being audited. Further, he could release returns for the years immediately prior to the years under audit."
Romney, who has been a vocal critic of Trump, said there was "only one logical explanation" for Trump's refusal to release his returns: "There is a bombshell in them."
Of course no ordinary business person would want his tax auditors to get free advice from crowd sourced kibitzers, but a tax return is not supposed to be an opening negotiating bid: in signing a tax return, an individual is charged with making a fair and accurate assessment of tax liability against himself. If Mr. Trump’s returns in fact fall short of this standard, that is exactly the sort of insight into the candidate’s character that our tradition of publication is meant to reveal.
By fixating on what juicy tidbits Donald Trump’s tax returns might reveal, we all have missed why it is rational for Trump to incur the heavy political cost of not publishing his tax returns. Donald Trump will not publish his tax returns because he does not expect to be President, or at best has not internalized what becoming President actually entails. Trump’s tax return strategy is directed at a future in which he is not President, but is an even richer self-promoter. Unlike Mitt Romney in 2012, Donald Trump has not turned his back on the business world and committed himself irrevocably to a political career, but rather remains entirely focused on the Trump brand and business. Electoral success is at m
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In an Associated Press interview in May, Trump said “there’s nothing to learn” from his tax returns and dismissed the idea that voters had a right to see them before going to the polls.
But, in a tweet, the self-professed billionaire said he told the news agency he would release his returns when the audit is finished, “not after [the] election.”
www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-says-he-will-be-the-first-candidate-si
nce-1976-not-to-release-tax-returns-2016-05-11
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Interesting side note on Trump...well, about him anyway.
I was re-watching the series ' Dead like Me'. I believe it's ep 4 of the 2nd season, where George is talking about the a-holes in history. As she speaks, images of Hitler, Mussolini, etc... pop up, while she explains that nice people finish last, and it's the jerks who always get what they want, etc...
Funny thing , as she was finishing her little rant, the image of none other than a younger Donald Trump appears, JUST as she was uttering the word ' asshole '. 
This was from 2004. Man, those writers were good !
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SECOND has turned into SECONDRATE. Just like KRAPO, GSTRING, and THUGR, all pretense of civility, rationality, and honesty has disappeared.
SECONDRATE, how does it feel to be on the crazy-bus? And yes, I'm baiting you. Feels great to be baited, doesn't it?
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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But on to more interesting topics: Hillary's "seizures".
I agree KIKI, these don't look like seizures, they look possibly like an over-medicated movement disorder.
A little too much dopamine, perhaps??? That "seizure" at the DNC convention looked like nothing so much as a sudden, distracting hallucination which can be caused by dopamine overdose.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Quote:www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/ct-norman-lear-interview-a
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND has turned into SECONDRATE. Just like KRAPO, GSTRING, and THUGR, all pretense of civility, rationality, and honesty has disappeared.
SECONDRATE, how does it feel to be on the crazy-bus? And yes, I'm baiting you. Feels great to be baited, doesn't it?
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“Trump is the middle finger of the American right hand. I'm not down on the American people, or even the people voting for Trump, but clearly we don't do the work to understand them. If we did, we'd find out just how much we've let them down.”
http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-08-09
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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