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Ahhh, religion...

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Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:49 PM

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First - this is exactly what I mean about Religion not being able to discuss things openly. I'm about to say some things about the way the Church operates, and the content of the Bible. Are you capable of handling that as observations of an organization and a book, or must it become something personal and insulting to *you*? If it's the latter, my point about the mentalities of Religion versus Science is made.


Yeah, sorry about that, I ain't perfect and couldn't help but feel personally insulted. I was doing pretty good up until that point. I hope my lapse in judgment didn't completely destroy my argument that faith can be a powerful thing for the good of man AND womankind.

I'm tired of trying to argue for the churches, (which as I said earlier, I don't follow blindly), so I'm going to retreat for a bit and try to explain my view on things before I try and argue faith in general. I don't think Christianity is sexists, or at least it ain't supposed to be. I'm not a big fan of organized religion or of the catholic church. There are denominations that allow women into their ranks as leaders, even priest like Episcopals (I like to think of them as diet catholic, same great religion with half the guilt and corruption).

There's no way I can defend every aspect of every sect of Christianity, and it seems kind of arrogant for me to define what is right and wrong in Christianity. The Bible is a good reference for that kind of thing, but we all know it's incomplete, and too many people confuse church dogma with God's will. Losing my temper only makes me look like a stereotypical unthinking jerkoff. For now, lets just agree we're shiney people with different opinions on stuff (not that I've thought different of any of you, we are all browncoats after all).

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Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
Yeah, sorry about that, I ain't perfect and couldn't help but feel personally insulted. I was doing pretty good up until that point. I hope my lapse in judgment didn't completely destroy my argument that faith can be a powerful thing for the good of man AND womankind.

It COULD be. Sadly, it often isn't.

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I'm tired of trying to argue for the churches, (which as I said earlier, I don't follow blindly),
LOL! Substitute "Obama" for "churches", and I know exactly what you mean. It's a great theory and has done some good things, and is better than many alternatives, but the reality just doesn't live up to the ideal...

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I don't think Christianity is sexists, or at least it ain't supposed to be.
I think it speaks well of you, and is sanguine (Zoe word!) as to the future of the church that you think so. But history is against you, my friend.

I just hope there are more like you out there.

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Losing my temper only makes me look like a stereotypical unthinking jerkoff.
I quite honestly didn't think you were, or I would have engaged at an entirely different level.


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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left

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Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:19 PM

In the very least, Christianity wasn't anti-woman to begin with, and it's becoming woman-friendly again.

Though there's still an awful lot of church talk about Eve blame and Eve causing the fall, which was not at all the POINT of that story... It's about Satan and temptation. Do people still read Paradise Lost? Eve wasn't evil in that story, she was never evil. She was naive. Adam adored her so much that when she became mortal, he chose to stay with her. The first sin, they call it, but it was one God had planned for; Adam turned away from the protection of God and became the entity of free will God had wanted in the first place.

Actually, I compare the whole thing to a parent kicking his son out of the house and telling him to get a job.

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Saturday, August 6, 2016 11:56 AM

An After School Satan Club could be coming to your kid’s elementary school
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/an-after-school-satan-c
lub-could-be-coming-to-your-kids-elementary-school/2016/07/30/63f485e6-5427-11e6-88eb-7dda4e2f2aec_story.html


It’s a hot summer night, and leaders of the Satanic Temple have gathered
in the crimson­-walled living room of a Victorian manse in this city
renowned for its witch trials in the 17th century. ...

They’re here plotting to bring their wisdom to the nation’s public
elementary school children. They point out that Christian evangelical
groups already have infiltrated the lives of America’s children through
after-school religious programming in public schools,
and they appear
determined to give young students a choice: Jesus or Satan.
[ ^emphasis mine, Oonj ]

“It’s critical that children understand that there are multiple
perspectives on all issues, and that they have a choice in how
they think,” said Doug Mesner, the Satanic Temple’s co-founder.



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.
Maybe a donut.

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Tuesday, November 22, 2022 7:09 PM

A Secular Religion Is Being Established in American Law
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-secular-religion-woke-first-amendment-e
stablishment-clause-11666820331


Protesters are demanding for a non-religious Iran: What does this mean for the country?
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/protesters-are-demanding-for-a-no
n-religious-iran-what-does-this-mean-for-the-country-11544641.html


Spiritual but not religious Americans are finding new ways of pursuing meaning
https://phys.org/news/2022-11-spiritual-religious-americans-ways-pursu
ing.html

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Saturday, February 14, 2026 8:27 PM

Exiled Iranian Prince Reza Pahlavi: "There are only two nations on this planet that can claim they have a biblical relationship with one another. One is Israel, one is Iran."

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/2022375963133108341#m

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Thursday, April 16, 2026 7:08 PM

Taqiyya, Al-muruna, Kitman and Al-tawriya


Muslim migrants pose as LGBT to gain asylum in the UK, Home Office vows to jail lawyers who help them
https://jihadwatch.org/2026/04/muslim-migrants-pose-as-lgbt-to-gain-as
ylum-in-the-uk-home-office-vows-to-jail-lawyers-who-help-them

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