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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:02 AM

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Originally posted by G:
I'd like to introduce you to the newest member of the GOP. Mitch, Paul, this is SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
According to some, Vince Foster was "bullied to death" by Hillary, because she mercilessly tore him part in front of others at a time when he was depressed and vulnerable. A fragment of a suicide note was later "discovered" by Hillary's staff. I wonder, if the whole thing had been found, would it have had Hillary's name on it?



Your desperation is pretty funny. Going 20+ years back to dig up something negative. Obviously, she killed him with her brain. Next you'll be chanting "Lock her up!" followed by a rousing chorus of "Hawkish!" "Hillary's War!" "20,000 Emails!" Naturally, Trump supporters can't keep more than 3 word thoughts in their brains.

Interesting to see that Hillary is doing the worst with white males with only basic education. Hello Trump supporters!



Without the voters who have one issue maybe two, Trump would not exist. At least 20% or more who are considering voting Trump do so strictly to deal with free trade. Another is immigration. Many have this concern because of global warming and economics. They foresee overwhelming migrations to come a few years down the road. We got a glimpse of what it will look like with the recent events in Europe. Our southern border is going to look like a crowded beach with people trying to cross into the United States. And that's the projected forecast of our military.

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:18 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

The facts about the real world are to her smaller and less vital than maintaining her image of capability. It makes me nervous. And if you're a sane person, it would make you nervous, too.

Are you being paid by the number of keystrokes? Because you could improve your signal-to-noise ratio by writing less.
www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-
some-lie-more-than-others.html?_r=0



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:20 AM

Wow, that's an amazing graph SECOND.

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:27 AM


Originally posted by second:
Are you being paid by the number of keystrokes? Because you could improve your signal-to-noise ratio by writing less.



Care to address the magnitude of her lies second-rate, which was the point of my post?

Here is the point I made - posted for you, again - so it doesn't get lost in your mental fog.

It's that she has a decades-long history of lying about her non-existent computer security both on her private (US national security) server and the DNC server. And she has a decades-long history of lying about her positions on free-trade agreements. And she has a decades-long history of lying about Libya, and Ukraine, and Syria ... and Russia. And about what she really said during her half-a-million dollar speeches.

And once again, I'll wait to see if you've lost contact with all objectivity.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!


In fact, here ya' go, second-rate, reprised from the Hillary thread where I'm sure you'll ignore it. I'll be happy to bring up more specifics about the other life-and-death topics that she's so cavalier about.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/08/01/clinton_actually_com
ey_said_i_was_truthful_about_my_emails.html


WALLACE: I want to ask about one aspect, what you told the American people.
CLINTON:
I did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. There is no classified materials.
I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time.
I had not sent classified material nor received anything marked classified.

WALLACE: After a long investigation, FBI Director James Comey said none of those things that you told the American public were true.

CLINTON: Chris, that's not what I heard Director Comey say, and I thank you for giving me the opportunity, in my view, clarify. Director Comey said my answers were truthful, and what I’ve said is consistent with what I have told the American people, that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the emails. ...

WALLACE: But in a congressionally hearing on July 7th, Director Comey directly contradicted what you had told the public.
REP. TREY GOWDY, R-S.C., CHAIR, BENGHAZI COMMITTEE:
Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails either sent or received. Was that true?
JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR:
That’s not true.
GOWDY:
Secretary Clinton said, "I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material." Was that true?
COMEY: There was classified material e-mailed.

WALLACE:
He directly contradicted --

CLINTON:
Well, I --

WALLACE:
Well, let me just say -- he not only directly contradicted what you said, he also said in that hearing that you were extremely careless and negligent.

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:29 AM

BONN, Germany — Global warming is uprooting people from their homes and, left unchecked, could lead to the greatest human migration in history, said a report released Wednesday.

Estimates vary on how many people are on the move because of climate change, but the report cites predictions from the International Organization for Migration that 200 million people will be displaced by environmental pressures by 2050. Some estimates go as high as 700 million, said the report, released at U.N negotiations for a new climate treaty.

Researchers questioned more than 2,000 migrants in 23 countries about why they moved, said Koko Warner of the U.N. University, which conducted the study with CARE International.

The results were "a clear signal" that environmental stress already is causing population shifts, she said, and it could be "a mega-trend of the future."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-06-1
0-climate-change-migration_N.htm




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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 4:25 AM

The results were "a clear signal" that environmental stress already is causing population shifts ...

Do you really think what Hillary yammers about global warming matters? Nothing will get through Congress. She can talk about all those things that she wants you to imagine she cares about, but she knows she will never, ever be in a position to make good on them. Castles in the sky? That's what you're buying. And do you really think you're going to live there, dimbulb?

The only things you need to be concerned about are the things Hillary wants to do THAT CAN ACTUALLY COME TRUE.

MORE NATO on Russia's borders. And MORE pointless friction with Russia, with no goal, or plan, or end in sight, except war. MORE US support of 'friendly' Islamic terrorist groups. MORE 'free' trade agreements. MORE US job loss. MORE too big to fail banks, getting bigger and bigger.

YAY HOORAY! RUN HILLARY, RUN!





Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:03 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

Care to address the magnitude of her lies second-rate, which was the point of my post?

Here is the point I made - posted for you, again - so it doesn't get lost in your mental fog.

It's that she has a decades-long history of lying about her non-existent computer security both on her private (US national security) server and the DNC server. And she has a decades-long history of lying about her positions on free-trade agreements. And she has a decades-long history of lying about Libya, and Ukraine, and Syria ... and Russia. And about what she really said during her half-a-million dollar speeches.

1kiki, your questions and answers are long and repetitive. That is how I know you ARE being paid by the number keystrokes! You should pay me for ignoring your questions so you can ask them again and again and make more money. Pay me by donating to fireflyfans.net.

I'm not being paid by Hillary as her spokesperson. I don't have to explain her words for a living nor make her words more delicious for the MSM to swallow. I didn't even listen to her speeches. Or anybody's speeches at the Dem Convention. Instead I watched a recording of Stephen Colbert's coverage:



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:08 AM

"I'd didn't even listen to her speeches. Or anybody's speeches at the Dem Convention. Instead I watched a recording of Stephen Colbert's coverage ..."

Because Colbert is news? Is that WHY you're so deliciously fact-free second-rate?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"I'd didn't even listen to her speeches. Or anybody's speeches at the Dem Convention. Instead I watched a recording of Stephen Colbert's coverage ..."

Because Colbert is news? Is that WHY you're so deliciously fact-free second-rate?

This NYTimes graphic showing Trump is almost the biggest liar is fact-free?
www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-
some-lie-more-than-others.html?_r=0


1kiki, you can pay me for my help in you making a living one keystroke at a time by donating to fireflyfans.net. You owe it to fireflyfans.net. Or is it dot Nyet in Russian?


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:16 AM

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/hillary-clinton-de
bate-libya/410437
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Using contested intelligence, a powerful adviser urges a president to wage a war of choice against a dictator; makes a bellicose joke when he is killed; declares the operation a success; fails to plan for a power vacuum; and watches Islamists gain power. That describes Dick Cheney and the Iraq War—and Hillary Clinton and the war in Libya.

At Tuesday’s primary debate, Clinton was criticized not just for the Iraq War vote that cost her the 2008 election, but also for the undeclared 2011 war that she urged in Libya. The Obama Administration waged that war of choice in violation of the War Powers Resolution and despite the official opposition of the U.S. Congress. “Governor Webb has said that he would never have used military force in Libya and that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was inevitable,” Anderson Cooper told the former Secretary of State. “Should you have seen that attack coming?”

Her answer included a broad defense of the war in Libya. “Remember what was going on,” she began, repeating a version of events that ]some intelligence officials and human rights groups doubt. see below



https://newrepublic.com/article/121879/hillary-clinton-should-take-bla
me-disastrous-libyan-intervention


Clinton and other Western officials sold NATO’s intervention in Libya as a humanitarian effort to stop the imminent slaughter of civilians in Benghazi. “Imagine we were sitting here and Benghazi had been overrun, a city of 700,000 people, and tens of thousands of people had been slaughtered, hundreds of thousands had fled. … The cries would be, ‘Why did the United States not do anything?’” Clinton said in an interview in March of 2011. ...

The problem with this rationale ... is that no solid intelligence existed to back up Clinton’s statements of the impending bloodbath in Benghazi. U.S. officials said that the Pentagon believed “Gadhafi was unlikely to risk world outrage by inflicting large civilian casualties as he cracked down on the rebels based in Benghazi,” according to the reports.

... those reported intelligence assessments, which contradict the picture painted by Clinton and the Obama administration at the time of the intervention, align with analysis and reports made by scholars, conflict analysts, and human rights groups.

Perhaps more questionable than the wisdom of the intervention was its execution. “The real question is why they did the kind of intervention they did, which was not just to protect civilians but regime change,” El Amrani said. “It is not a controversial thing to say NATO members overstepped their mandate.”



http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reve
al-true-motive-for-libya-intervention
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Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention

Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention.

Hillary’s Death Squads

A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief [archived here] on Libya, sent by long time close adviser to the Clintons and Hillary’s unofficial intelligence gatherer, Sidney Blumenthal, contains clear evidence of war crimes on the part of NATO-backed rebels. Citing a rebel commander source “speaking in strict confidence” Blumenthal reports to Hillary [emphasis mine]:

Under attack from allied Air and Naval forces, the Libyan Army troops have begun to desert to the rebel side in increasing numbers. The rebels are making an effort to greet these troops as fellow Libyans, in an effort to encourage additional defections.

(Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting…).

While the illegality of extra-judicial killings is easy to recognize (groups engaged in such are conventionally termed “death squads”), the sinister reality behind the “foreign mercenaries” r

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