COUP...TURKEY

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1KIKI

Saturday, July 16, 2016 9:22 AM

They shudda' got the US to pay for it, like in Ukraine.

Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 16, 2016 2:34 PM

This attempt in the long term may simply drive Erdogan more insane worse than Venezuela's Chavez or a typical Islamist Arab dictator, seems Turkish links to ISIS have made people speak against the government's corruption....people in Turkey seem to either love or totally hate him as a leader? and now with the economic slump, open borders for jihad into Europe, the bomb attacks at the airport.....maybe it was too much for some military guys...has Erdogan become a failure? and now another historical militray coup attempt maybe Turkey is proven to be an unstable NATO ally!? and to think some elite idiots thought it should join wider Eurozone or the EU.

Remember Lord of the Rings Censorship?

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/man-facing-jail-over-gol
lum-meme/news-story/3e862063b53c29fa61dd9658dd2dbc17
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/02/a-turkis
h-court-appointed-five-lord-of-the-rings-experts-to-figure-out-whether-this-gollum-meme-is-offensive/
remember this one? A Turkish court appointed five ‘Lord of the Rings’ experts to figure out whether this Gollum meme is offensive

the Military often sees itself as a guardian of Turkish secular democracy, and the Turkish government has prosecuted many artists and jailed more journalists than N.Korea and Iran combined....the attacks at the airport might have been the straw that finally broke the camels back
Did Erdogan's years of political rule break Ataturks vision was Turkey now abandoning a secular constitution, Erdogan rewriting Turkey's constitution against the original charter that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and was Erdogan more Orthodox Islamist and signaling end of secularism in Turkey?
the Economy was already almost in free fall before the Coup
British Airways and German tour operators are canceling flights?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-flights-and-holidays
-what-should-i-do-if-i-am-in-turkey-o/
Alarmist bulletin here -
Turkish PM: Flights cancelled, any movement will be shot down
http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/175018/turkish-pm-flights-cancelled-
any-movement-will-be-shot-down
Tour operators cancel flights to Turkey, Dutch urged to stay indoors
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2016/07/tour-operators-cancel-fl
ights-to-turkey-dutch-urged-to-stay-indoors/

As the media and facebook are shutdown...online gamer kids between Turkey, Europe and the USA try to make sense of what's happening..

some vids, make of it what you will

Turkey coup: images show people celebrating military coup

MARTIAL LAW anonymous turkish friend says " THERE IS A TANK NEAR MY HOUSE "

Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Turkey coup: "they will pay a heavy price, we will take all necessary steps"

CNN Turk, Other Outlets Shutdown Briefly By Soldiers

Lots of weapons lying around as troops surrender?
https://www.facebook.com/univisionnoticias/posts/10154663318969796:0

Shooting from Helicopter?

Military Coup In Turkey Attemps To Overthrow Erdogan & Turkish Government

Turkey Coup: Tank Runs Over Multiple Cars

Even if the Coup attempt was intended to be 'peaceful' for whatever reason there are many reports of wounded and dead.

Joe Cirincione ?tweeted on a military and national security issue
it should be noted that a number of nations have overseas military bases in Turkish areas, the United States has a base and the British have territory in Turkish North Cyprus.
Joe Cirincione says the United States of America 'should take coup as a warning. Time to take our 180 nuclear weapons out of Europe; out of Turkey'

the media from Russians claims to show an F-16 bombing the Presidential Palace
https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/75423922

SIGNYM

Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:33 PM

Judges are being rounded up like cattle at the beginning of a cattle-drive. That'll teach them to worry about the rule of law!

and ...

Turkey Suspends All US Operations Against ISIS At Incirlik Airbase, Which Vaults B61 Nuclear Bombs
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/turkey-suspends-all-us-operat
ions-against-isis-incirlik-airbase-which-vaults-us-b61-

Does Erdogan suspect the USA is behind the attempted coup? Or is he going full-bore Islamist, with the support of his peeps?

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 17, 2016 12:13 AM

The United States has overseas bases, Japan, Germany and yes unfortunately on a day like today also smack inside Turkey, some say there are quite some nuclear weapons in that base in Turkey, and it's been locked off by Turks, Turkish guards not protecting it now and the polical power almost cut off so to speak...some of the posts on unrest might be just rumors....I'm sure the US and its Allies have a plan to defend itself or secure itself if things ever go total crazy, right?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Or is he going full-bore Islamist, with the support of his peeps?

There will always be a bunch of crazies that pray Mahometan in the Middle East, is Erdogan wise to mess with a Mohammedan mob

Also a number of reports of military causing civilian deaths in the failed Coup attempt

and then you have the Islamomaniac mobs

Turkish soldier 'beheaded by pro-government mob on Istanbul's Bosphorus Bridge' after failed coup attempt
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/turkish-soldier-beheaded-pro-g
overnment-8433319
Graphic video footage and images online show the soldier lying on the ground surrounded by a pool of blood.

He can be seen with horrific injuries after the attack.

He reportedly surrendered after last night's failed coup attempt but was allegedly attacked by pro-government supporters.

THGRRI

Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Judges are being rounded up like cattle at the beginning of a cattle-drive. That'll teach them to worry about the rule of law!

and ...

Turkey Suspends All US Operations Against ISIS At Incirlik Airbase, Which Vaults B61 Nuclear Bombs
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/turkey-suspends-all-us-operat
ions-against-isis-incirlik-airbase-which-vaults-us-b61-

Does Erdogan suspect the USA is behind the attempted coup? Or is he going full-bore Islamist, with the support of his peeps?

Why do you criticize real sources of news yet continually post links to cites like Zero Hedge. The writers there conceal who they are and claim to be experts on varying topics. They are probably not.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:16 AM

Other sources

Turkey Interrupts U.S. Air Missions Against ISIS at Major Base
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/world/europe/turkey-us-incirlik-isis
.html?partner=IFTTT&_r=1

Cnn news Turkish office twitter
Turkish President Erdogan speaks live, calls U.S to hand over Fethullah Gulen to if U.S is strategic ally

Thgrri this one is directly from the US government

Emergency Message for U.S. Citizens: Incirlik Air Base, July 16. Be advised that local authorities are denying movements on to and off of Incirlik Air Base. The power there has also been cut. Please avoid the air base until normal operations have been restored.

turkey. usembassy .gov

Turkey Cuts Off Power To Incirlik Air Base, Grounding Anti-ISIS Air Operation
Town Hall

SIGNYM

Sunday, July 17, 2016 7:05 PM

Quote:
Why do you criticize real sources of news yet continually post links to cites like Zero Hedge. The writers there conceal who they are and claim to be experts on varying topics. They are probably not.

As I've often said about ZeroHedge, you have to wear a shit-screen on your mouth before you go swimming there. According to the contributors, it's always the end of something ... the end of the dollar, the end of the stock market, the end of the financial system, the end of the WORLD!

But their sources, whoever they are, get their news fast. And occasionally they do useful analyses, like the one that detected end-of-trading-day market manipulation and set the SEC on its trail. So if you can learn to separate news from apocalyptic hyperventilation ... always a useful skill ... it's a great place for one-stop shopping of all of the latest, and then some! Just make sure your shitscreen is fully in place before diving.

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

SIGNYM

Sunday, July 17, 2016 7:10 PM

Erdogan is blaming the USA for this attempted coup. And according to NPR- which is always reflective of what the DNC wants you to think - even as (some) Turks are loudly celebrating the coup's failure, others are (very quietly) mourning its demise. Turkey, NPR says, is a divided nation.

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 18, 2016 1:50 AM

At height of Turkish coup bid, rebel jets had Erdogan's plane in their sights
http://www.reuters.com/
At the height of the attempt to overthrow Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, the rebel pilots of two F-16 fighter jets had Erdogan's plane in their sights. And yet he was able to fly on.

The Turkish leader was returning to Istanbul from a holiday near the coastal resort of Marmaris after a faction in the military launched the coup attempt on Friday night, sealing off a bridge across the Bosphorus, trying to capture Istanbul's main airport and sending tanks to parliament in Ankara.

"At least two F-16s harassed Erdogan's plane while it was in the air and en route to Istanbul. They locked their radars on his plane and on two other F-16s protecting him," a former military officer with knowledge of the events told Reuters.

"Why they didn't fire is a mystery," he said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-coup-latest-isis
-syria-iraq-not-viable-partner-france-foreign-minister-a7141501.html

Turkey may no longer be a viable partner in fight against Isis following coup, says French foreign minister

'There are questions that are being asked and we will ask them. [Turkey] is partly viable but there are suspicions as well. Let’s be honest about this'

France’s foreign minister has said Turkey may no longer be a viable partner in the fight against Isis in Syria, while Syrian state media has claimed the failed coup in the country was fabricated by President Erdogan to tarnish the military's reputation.

French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault raised concerns over Turkey's ability to fight Isis amid growing political instability in the country following the attempted coup against Mr Erdogan’s regime.

He said: “There are questions that are being asked and we will ask them. [Turkey] is partly viable but there are suspicions as well. Let’s be honest about this.”

Turkey reopens air base for U.S fight against Islamic State: Pentagon

Turkey will reopen its Incirlik air base to U.S. planes, used to attack Islamic State, following an attempted coup, the Pentagon said on Sunday.

On NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, Kerry was asked if Turkey's president Tayyip Erdogan would use the coup attempt to seize more power.

Kerry said such a move by Erdogan would be a challenge to his relationship with Europe, with NATO and others.

"We have urged them not to reach out so far that they are creating doubts about their commitment to the democratic process," he said.

Erdogan has blamed his rival, Fethullah Gulen, for masterminding the coup attempt. Gulen, who is currently living in Pennsylvania, has denied any involvement.

SIGNYM

Monday, July 18, 2016 10:58 PM

Turkish Prosecutors Raid Incirlik Airbase Housing US Warplanes And 50 Nuclear Bombs
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/turkish-prosecutors-raid-inci
rlik-airbase-housing-us-warplanes-and-50-nuclear-bombs

Erdogan Purges 20,000 As Europe Voices Concern Coup Was Staged With "Prepared Arrest Lists"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/erdogan-purges-8000-cops-euro
pe-voices-concern-coup-was-staged-prepared-arrest-lists

I've been saying for quite a while- at least over a year- that there seemed to be some fundamental shifts going on in the mideast - that old alliances and old bargains no longer held. The Saudis and USA seem to be more at-a-distance (except Hillary, who seems to want to jump back into bed with KSA).

The secular-Kamalist Turkey is no more: Erdogan has spent the past eight years promoting Islamization, and the past five years assisting in the destruction of Libya (secular) and Syria (secular) using ISIL. What does this say about NATO, of which Turkey is a member?

ISIL is a new phenomenon, although funded by, but not under control of al Qaida and the KSA.

The USA's strategy of using KSA-funded jihadists in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, Libya and Syria seems to have developed significant blowback.

The price of oil is at historic lows.

What's going to happen next???

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

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