Sniper kills five cops

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WHOZIT

Monday, July 11, 2016 6:31 AM

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Trump is a terrorist organization, according to Whozit.

http://www.joemygod.com/2016/07/09/portland-trump-supporter-faces-40-y
ears-prison-threatening-protesters-gun-video/

But he didn't shoot anyone

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Monday, July 11, 2016 12:34 PM

it's another really sad set of events, but I'm sorry to have to say it once again, your gun laws are just completely fucked. Everyone sees it except the nut jobs who think this is an acceptable way to live. It's just not.

SECOND

Monday, July 11, 2016 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
#blacklivesmatter is a terrorist group

Don't you mean #nolivesmatter

Jack Ohman: Gunfire in Dallas
www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/jack-ohman/article88701452.h
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SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:56 PM

If I may be a little "meta" about this whole event and the reaction to it.

What I find is that once someone targeted police in an organized fashion, suddenly the cops started talking peace. And once black gangstas looked into the future of total race warfare, and therefore a cut in their profits, suddenly THEY started talking peace. But IMHO this is just a temporary truce. Unarmed blacks will continue to be killed by police in disproportionate numbers and videos will continue to bubble up.

The real problem IMHO isn't guns or gun laws, it's the ATTITUDE about people and about violence. Violence - especially righteous violence - is still promoted 24/7/365 in popular culture. And dividing the society into "haves" and "will never haves" sets up a system that the police have to defend. We have to find a common ethic that unites us, something more than every man for himself and god against all.

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

SECOND

Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

If I may be a little "meta" about this whole event and the reaction to it.

If I may be a little factual about this whole event in Texas:

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Blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to have an interaction with police which involves any use of force. In stark contrast to non-lethal uses of force, we find no racial differences in officer-involved shootings on either the extensive or intensive margins. Using data from Houston, Texas—where we have both officer-involved shootings and a randomly chosen set of potential interactions with police where lethal force may have been justified—we find, in the raw data, that blacks are 23.8 percent less likely to be shot at by police relative to whites. Hispanics are 8.5 percent less likely.

Analyzing data from cities in California, Texas, and Florida, Fryer found that lethal force was used more often against whites than blacks. The results weren't statistically significant, so technically Fryer's conclusion is that there's no difference between the shooting rate of whites and blacks.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/07/new-study-suggests-police-shoot
-whites-more-frequently-blacks

THGRRI

Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:29 AM

Surprising New Evidence Shows Bias in Police Use of Force but Not in Shootings

By QUOCTRUNG BUI and AMANDA COX JULY 11, 2016

Police officers are more likely to ...

with blacks than with whites
in similar situations
use hands 2,165
for every
10,000 stops
in New York City
1,845
for every
10,000 stops
in New York City
17% more likely

..........................................Black.....White
push into wall ............................623... 529 18%
use handcuffs* ............................310... 266 16%
draw weapons.............................. 155... 129 19%
push to ground ............................136 ...114 18%
point weapon ..............................54 ....43 24%
use pepper spray or baton 5 4 25%

* Handcuffs exclude arrests. Counts represent at least that level of force, based on stop-and-frisk data from 2003 to 2013. Similar situations account for gender, age, police precinct, the reason for the stop, whether the stop was indoors or outdoors, the time of day, whether the stop took place in a high-crime area or during a high-crime time, whether the officer was in uniform, the type of identification provided, and whether others were stopped at the same time.

A new study confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.

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REAVERFAN

Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:44 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:
#blacklivesmatter is a terrorist group

WHOZIT is a racist whose mind is controlled by reichwing FOX propaganda.

REAVERFAN

Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:47 AM

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Originally posted by MAGONSDAUGHTER:
it's another really sad set of events, but I'm sorry to have to say it once again, your gun laws are just completely fucked. Everyone sees it except the nut jobs who think this is an acceptable way to live. It's just not.

True. However, thanks to our corrupt campaign finance rules, the NRA controls congress, not the American people.

REAVERFAN

Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:49 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:
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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
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Originally posted by whozit:
#blacklivesmatter is a terrorist group

You're thinking of the Army and the NRA.

No evidence that the shooter was any part of BLM, but he *WAS* a U.S. Army veteran, using a weapon that the NRA has fought tooth and nail to make sure that anyone can have access to at all times, regardless of their criminal history or mental competence.

The Orlando shooter was a Democrat, so with that thinking the Democrat party is a terror group.

Just when I think no one can possibly be this stupid, you prove that you can.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:24 PM

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Blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to have an interaction with police which involves any use of force. In stark contrast to non-lethal uses of force, we find no racial differences in officer-involved shootings on either the extensive or intensive margins. Using data from Houston, Texas—where we have both officer-involved shootings and a randomly chosen set of potential interactions with police where lethal force may have been justified—we find, in the raw data, that blacks are 23.8 percent less likely to be shot at by police relative to whites. Hispanics are 8.5 percent less likely.

Analyzing data from cities in California, Texas, and Florida, Fryer found that lethal force was used more often against whites than blacks. The results weren't statistically significant, so technically Fryer's conclusion is that there's no difference between the shooting rate of whites and blacks.

First of all, there are statistics out there that say otherwise. I just saw a study ... can't remember where but I'll try to look it up ... which showed that, of the roughly 390 fatal shootings by police blacks accounted for just slightly less than half. But since blacks make up only about 12% of the population, they are being shot about four times more frequently than whites. I think the mentally ill are also over-represented in police shootings.

But the problem is that ALL statistics are suspect, because there is no REQUIRED NATIONAL DATABASE - or even state-by-state database- of the victims and circumstances of police shootings, whether fatal or not. Finding that information is extremely difficult, local public radio (KPCC) had to go to filed letters, written by the LA County DA as they declined to prosecute each case, in order to dredge up the facts. The very first thing this report talks about is that information is deliberately under-collected.

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The official statistics for shootings by police in America are bad to non-existent. The totals are under-reported, and the Justice Department admits it doesn't have crucial details such as the race of people shot, and whether they were armed.

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/10/455502419/in-los-angeles-piecing-togethe
r-the-numbers-on-police-shootings

In any case, my point was that despite all of the protestation of love and unity between police and the civilians they keep an eye on, police cannot help but remember that someone targeted them in an organized fashion. It's hard enough encountering people every day that you don't know might shoot you out of sheer criminality. Adding another layer of fear onto that will probably make police even MORE jumpy, and just make the problem worse.

Something more needs to be done than a day of mourning and a temporary cease-fire.

Just look at the case of the Lacqaun McDonald shooting in Chicago. The coverup involved everyone from the other police who witnessed the shooting to the DA who withheld the video to the City Council who paid off mom and dad to the (supposedly) independent review board, which resulted in the Police Chief fbeing fired over a year later, only after the whole cover-up was exposed.

Chicago police chief fired after Laquan McDonald shooting revelations
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/01/chicago-mayor-fires-po
lice-superintendent-laquan-mcdonald-shooting-protests

OTOH, taking Chicago again as an example, the shootings between gangs is atrocious.

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

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