Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread
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That's a fair assessment of the situation. Conservatives have had their party
wrested from their hands and thrown into a meat grinder, forever changing how the
game is played and how they perceive the political landscape. It has contributed greatly to the polarization of the country.
SGG
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
I'm like a lot of ex-Republicans: I didn't leave my party. The party left me.
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Well, it looks like this is an "open and shut" case. That should definitely mean jail time for Clinton. With evidence like that, there's no avoiding it.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huma Abedin admits that Clinton [illegally] burned daily schedulesQuote:
Hillary Clinton’s closest aide revealed in a deposition last week that her boss destroyed at least some of her schedules as secretary of state — a revelation that could complicate matters for the presumptive Democratic nominee, who, along with the State Department she ran, is facing numerous lawsuits seeking those public records.
Huma Abedin was deposed in connection with a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit into Clinton’s emails — but her admission could be relevant to another lawsuit seeking Clinton’s schedules.
“If there was a schedule that was created that was her Secretary of State daily schedule, and a copy of that was then put in the burn bag, that .?.?. that certainly happened on .?.?. on more than one occasion,” Abedin told lawyers representing Judicial Watch, the conservative organization behind the emails lawsuit.
Abedin made the surprising admission in response to a question about document destruction at the Department of State. A lawyer for Judicial Watch asked: “And during your tenure at the State Department, were you aware of your obligation not to delete federal records or destroy federal records?”
http://nypost.com/2016/07/04/huma-abedin-admits-that-clinton-burned-da
ily-schedules/
Just as an aside, working as I do at a government agency, we ALL know about record-retention, down to the lowest employee. It would be incomprehensible that Hillary, a long-time Senator, wife of a former President, and fully-read-in head of the State Department, "not know" about record retention.
So that explains her 30,000 deleted emails and her incomplete submitted schedules and her burned daily ones? This woman is clearly "cleaning up" her data.
Just OOC, I wonder if the FBI has tried a forensic reconstruction of her server's hard drives. If they have ... and if the drives are unreadable ... that certainly implies that the erasure was more than just casual, because it takes a lot of rewrites to fully eliminate data from a disc.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Oh, it's obvious that she's guilty as charged and there's no escape this time. Hilary violated the law, Bill violated the law, Lynch violated the law. It's obvious to the casual observer that these three should be indicted and tried for
crimes and misdemeanors.
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Lynch is the AG. Hillary is under CRIMINAL investigation by the FBI. SHOULD charges be filed, they would be filed out of Lynch's office. And Bill met with Lynch privately, on a private plane, for a private chat. I thought the 'snakes on a plane' captured the situation perfectly.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch/
Bill Clinton meeting causes headaches for Hillary
Even some Democrats say the optics don't look good.
Sen. Chris Coons, D-Delaware, said he believes Lynch will remain objective in her role but would have advised against the meeting, which he says sends the wrong signal even if it was "a brief, casual, social meeting with the former president."
According to a law enforcement official familiar with the matter, the former president saw Lynch's plane on the tarmac and walked onto her aircraft.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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FBI Recommends No Criminal Charges Against Hillary Clinton
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http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/28/news/economy/americans-believe-economy
-is-rigged/index.html?sr=cnnmoneybin070116americans-believe-economy-is-rigged0900vodtop
71% of Americans believe economy is 'rigged'
How I went from middle class to homeless
The overwhelming majority of Americans believe the economy is rigged.
Seventy-one percent think the U.S. economic system is "rigged in favor of certain groups," according to a new poll by Marketplace and Edison Research.
The poll asked a simple question: Which of the following comes closer to your opinion on the economic system in the U.S. People could select between three options:
1. The economic system is rigged in favor of certain groups
2. The economy system is fair to all Americans
3. Don't know
Most selected rigged economy. It didn't matter if the person was white, black or Hispanic or whether they identified as Republican, Democrat or Independent. The majority feel the American Dream comes with huge asterisk that reads "only for the favored few."
No wonder the "rigged economy" has become one of the biggest talking points on the 2016 campaign trail. Bernie Sanders may have started it, but Donald Trump now uses that exact term and Hillary Clinton talks often about how she'll help those "left behind."
Why Americans feel this way
Americans have good reason to think this way. The typical middle class family is earning about the same amount of money -- just under $54,000 -- as they did in 1996, once you adjust for inflation.
That means a lot of people aren't getting paid more. On top of that, the Great Recession knocked out many people's safety net savings as they lost jobs or homes or both. Even people who have jobs tell CNNMoney that they feel one step away from financial ruin. They fear a life of "dead-end crap jobs with crap wages."
Inequality, however you measure it, has been on the rise. The middle class is shrinking -- partly because the upper middle class is thriving.
This week, actor Jesse Williams speech at the BET awards highlighting all this went viral. It began: "A system built to divide, impoverish and destroy us cannot stand if we do." He called on his fellow Black celebrities -- many of whom are part of the favored few -- to do their part to fix inequality too.
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Williams' words are notable since 83% of African-Americans believe the economy is rigged, according to the Marketplace poll. It's the highest group to think that, although the majority of Americans across all racial groups feel that way.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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http://www.salon.com/2016/06/25/clinton_appointees_oppose_15_minimum_w
age_amendment_in_democratic_platform_sanders_surrogates_back_it/
Clinton appointees oppose $15 minimum wage amendment in Democratic platform; Sanders surrogates back it
The representatives appointed by Hillary Clinton to the Democratic Party’s platform drafting committee voted against a $15 minimum wage amendment on Friday.
The five representatives who were appointed by Clinton’s presidential opponent, Bernie Sanders, supported the amendment.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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http://www.salon.com/2016/06/30/10_things_everyone_should_know_about_w
hat_its_really_like_to_live_on_the_streets_partner/
10 things everyone should know about what it’s really like to live on the streets
Ed. note: The San Francisco Chronicle has spearheaded an effort to cover the city’s most intractable humanitarian crisis, homelessness. More than 70 local and national media organizations are participating by examining the issue from all possible angles. As part of this effort, AlterNet has interviewed homeless people in San Francisco to get their take on how and why they have lost their shelter and what life is like for them in the nation’s capital of inequality.
(The risk of homelessness) is emphatically true for those at the bottom of the 99 percent—people who used to be able to afford a stable room in a single-resident occupancy who simply cannot afford anything these days.
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2. Some homeless people have real jobs.
Half a dozen of those interviewed are full-time workers who simply could not afford another apartment or room after they were forced from their residence.
6. Being a homeless woman is terrifying.
9. Most homeless people do not want to be homeless.
Only one person interviewed said he chose to be homeless.
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Yeah SGG, I can see the Hillary bumper stickers now
AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T INDICT ME!
Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
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Compared to Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton presents herself as the well-qualified steady hand to manage U.S. foreign policy over the next four years, yet she has associated herself with a series of failed strategies and now faces an FBI judgment that she was "extremely careless" in protecting national security secrets.
A partial list of her dubious and dangerous judgments include voting for the catastrophic Iraq War, pushing for a misguided counterinsurgency "surge" in Afghanistan, embracing an anti-democratic coup in Honduras, devising the disastrous Libyan "regime change," undercutting President Obama's efforts to peacefully constrain Iran's nuclear program, advocating a new invasion of Syria under the guise of creating "safe zones," likening Russian President Vladimir Putin to Hitler, and -- now according to FBI Director James Comey -- failing to protect classified material from possible exposure to foreign adversaries.
Clinton admits that some of her judgments were "mistakes," such as believing President George W. Bush's blatant falsehoods about Iraq's alleged WMDs and using a personal email server to communicate regarding her duties as Secretary of State. But -- arguably even more troubling -- is the fact that she doesn't regard other of her official judgments as mistakes. Instead, she holds to them still or spins them in deceptive ways.
For instance, Clinton has never expressed regret about her support for the ouster of progressive Honduran President Manuel Zelaya in 2009, or her siding with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and General David Petraeus against President Obama in mouse-trapping him into a foolhardy counterinsurgency escalation in Afghanistan, or her sabotaging Obama's plan in 2010 to use Brazil and Turkey to convince Iran to surrender much of its refined uranium, or her propagandistic justification for bombing Libya in 2011 and leaving behind what amounts to a failed state, or her similar scheming for "regime change" in Syria that helped expand terrorist movements in the Middle East and has now destabilized Europe, or her reckless demonizing of Russia's Putin and encouragement of a dangerous new Cold War.
In many of those cases, Clinton has not been called on to apologize or admit error because Washington's neoconservative/liberal interventionist foreign-policy establishment marched in lock-step with the former Secretary of State. It turns out that if you move with the pack, you do enjoy relative safety even if your collective judgment is unsound. Usually, the people picking up the messy and blood-spattered pieces left behind by foolhardy policies are American soldiers and taxpayers whose opinions don't matter much in the rarefied atmosphere of Officialdom.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Hillary-Clinton-as-Damaged-by-Robert-
Parry-Fbi-Director-James-Comey_Hillary-2016_Hillary-Clinton-Emails-And-Server_Israel-160706-486.html
If I didn't live in a swing state, I'd vote for Jill Stein. I'm forced to vote for Hillary because Trump is even worse. 
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Ok some clarity is needed here. For all you who wish to criticize Clinton please feel free. I too have many, and I mean many reasons I am not happy with having to vote for her. Trump is out of the question. I would be remiss however, if I failed to remind all about the hypocrisy of SIG and 1kiki feigning disgust with Clinton, while defending everything Putin does. And let’s face the facts folks, check the threads, they defend everything Putin does without exception. It is literality impossible to be so dismayed by what Clinton does, yet not be even skeptical with what Putin does.
Raise your hand if you haven’t figured out why. I’ll give a hint. Think comrade trolls.
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