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"It's Time For The Elites To Rise Up Against The Ignorant Masses"

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Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 PM

I'm one of those people mentioned, too. I recycle, use efficient bulbs, went vegan, vote in everything, etc. Perhaps if everyone did the same, there would be some positive effects. I'm one of those rare people who actually cares about the future. Most people, rich and poor, don't want to think about it.

But, as was also mentioned, without a bigger plan, those things wouldn't be enough. As Steven Hawking recently pointed out, we're too greedy and stupid to unite and do what's necessary to save what little is still salvageable. http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/nation-now/2016/06/28/stephen-hawki
ng-humankind-still-greedy-stupid-greatest-threat-earth/86459578
/

With climate change and the concomitant losses of half our species in just the last 40 years, it seems doubtful that we could turn it around even if all the world suddenly united to change how we do everything in a cleaner, more sustainable way. http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/biodiversity/elements_of_b
iodiversity/extinction_crisis
/

As we continue crowding out and polluting what's left of the natural world, we'll arrive at the point where we'll simply collapse as a species. Our way of life is unsustainable, and no one seems to care, or want to do the things that could save it. We just keep breeding.

It's business as usual, with alternative ideas and energy sources actively suppressed, especially here in the US. We should be putting up solar panels, not fracking what's left of our dwindling fresh water into a toxic, radioactive soup.

But, that doesn't line the right pockets. We have a choice of Hillary or Trump for president, both of whom make me want to heave. Our choices are a warmongering oligarch or a narcissistic fascist. Yippee.

My nihilism is peaking lately, seeing the absurd clown show that is our politics, and the wanton corruption that is our business. Change is impossible, so a massive die-off is inevitable. Glad I never had kids. I'd hate to leave them with this mess.













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Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:42 AM

I might choose the narcissistic fascist because I'm pretty sure he'll remain our national problem. And I suspect tptb won't let him get too far off the plan. He may even be assassinated by a lone gunman.

The warmongering oligarch I'm confident will be a global problem, maybe even a global radioactive one.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, July 4, 2016 11:31 AM

Ah, plagiarism..............it rears it's ugly head.


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey SIG, you forgot to source where you got the title of this thread and who's work you cut and pasted here.


You Have Angered Your Ethical & Intellectual Superiors....

Discussion in 'The Pavilion' started by il ragno, Yesterday at 10:44 AM.

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.....and now you must pay. No - no pleading!.....it's far too late for that, you crucifix-clutching human garbage.

It’s Time for the Elites to Rise Up Against the Ignorant Masses
The Brexit has laid bare the political schism of our time. It’s not about the left vs. the right; it’s about the sane vs. the mindlessly angry.

BY JAMES TRAUB
JUNE 28, 2016

http://thebeerbarrel.net/threads/you-have-angered-your-ethical-intelle
ctual-superiors.36391
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Monday, July 4, 2016 6:41 PM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
The warmongering oligarch I'm confident will be a global problem, maybe even a global radioactive one.



Putin?

Hillary, of course.

Look at the "Arab Spring," a CIA-backed bid for anarchy that has resulted in millions killed and displaced. She loved it. She laughed about Gadaffi, ignoring the massive suffering and turmoil she caused. She's a neocon, not a liberal.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/middle-east-e
gypt-us-policy/409537
/

65 million people have been displaced, largely due to her wars. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=54269#.V3pY-bgrLcs

Then there's her little coup in Honduras, which has resulted in death and chaos not seen since Reagan was enjoying his little genocides in Central America.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/13/shes_baldly_lying_dana_frank_res
ponds


The woman is a walking war machine, and I predict she will manufacture a pretext for war with Iran, just like Bush did for Iraq.

SSDD

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Monday, July 4, 2016 7:15 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The USA is always at war because TPTB want it that way. Americans have to be stampeded with endless scare stories about nonexistent WMD or fake massacres before they become engaged, and EVEN THEN there are people who object. There was in fact a fairly robust anti-war movement, and demonstrations against the invasion of Iraq. But like the Occupy movement, TPTB simply don't pay attention to demonstrations anymore, they just roll over them and go on with their plans.

A million people demonstrating against war will change nothing. It is not the fault of TPTB that the deep desires of a million anti-war protesters are ignored. It is the fault of the tens of millions that voted for this particular TPTB.

The Powers that Be (TPTB) wouldn’t be in power if The People would stop using their feelings to decide who should be in power. For example, the villainous Nixon and Bush were elected a second time. I ask who gave these bad men power again and again? Their first term was plenty of warning about what these Presidents would do during their next term. But before they were even elected the first time these men had a history that should have warned anybody. These two guys, temporarily at the head of TPTB, produced catastrophes that could have been easily avoided. Now we have two more sadly inadequate Presidential candidates chosen during the Primaries by The People. When the future once more goes sadly wrong, The People will be at fault for raising Hillary or Trump to be the next figurehead/leader of TPTB. But The People really don’t want to think about the Big Choices, do they? Most People didn’t vote in the Primaries because they were too wrapped up in their little tiny lives to think about Big Important Decisions that will change their little tiny lives forever.

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Monday, July 4, 2016 8:22 PM

SECOND, I find you inadequately cynical about our situation!

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The USA is always at war because TPTB want it that way. Americans have to be stampeded with endless scare stories about nonexistent WMD or fake massacres before they become engaged, and EVEN THEN there are people who object. There was in fact a fairly robust anti-war movement, and demonstrations against the invasion of Iraq. But like the Occupy movement, TPTB simply don't pay attention to demonstrations anymore, they just roll over them and go on with their plans. -SIGNY

A million people demonstrating against war will change nothing. It is not the fault of TPTB that the deep desires of a million anti-war protesters are ignored. It is the fault of the tens of millions that voted for this particular TPTB - SECOND



Office-holders are mere underlings to the real PTB: the George Soros' and LLoyd Blankfeins and Laurent Gagnebins and King Salmans of the world. Now, TPTB don't give a rat's ass whether Hillary or Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio are elected President, as long as the President is sufficiently "read into" their plans for worldwide domination. Hillary is their preferred Dem candidate, Sanders barely budged their alarm needle, but reading the vitriol that they expend on Trump just makes me like Trump more and more.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/16/news/economy/goldman-ceo-blankfein-don
ald-trump
/
http://qz.com/656944/jpmorgan-chases-jamie-dimon-delivers-an-epic-take
down-of-donald-trump-without-even-naming-him
/
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-15/soros-alarmed-by
-trump-pours-money-into-2016-race

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/09/technology/donald-trump-elon-musk-meet
ing
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http://fortune.com/2016/03/08/aei-world-forum-trump/

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The Powers that Be (TPTB) wouldn’t be in power if The People would stop using their feelings to decide who should be in power.
One of those "feelings" which TPTB use over and over again to sway the electorate is directed FEAR. How much of a vote for Hillary is based on FEAR?

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For example, the villainous Nixon and Bush were elected a second time.
BUSH WAS NOT ELECTED. There is undeniable evidence - that the media chooses to ignore and therefore the people forget - of vote counting fraud in FL which led to Bush being SELECTED by the Supreme Court in 2000, and even MORE widespread vote-counting fraud in 2004. And that whole problem of black-box voting STILL hasn't been cleared up, all the way into 2016.
https://electionfraud2016.wordpress.com/tag/vote/

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I ask who gave these bad men power again and again? Their first term was plenty of warning about what these Presidents would do during their next term. But before they were even elected the first time these men had a history that should have warned anybody. These two guys, temporarily at the head of TPTB, produced catastrophes that could have been easily avoided. Now we have two more sadly inadequate Presidential candidates chosen during the Primaries by The People.


The DNCs shenanigans, and it's state-level party officials, clearly skewed the vote for Hillary. Releasing the "news" that Hillary was the presumptive delegate the day BEFORE the last primaries, Google's attempted skewing of the elections, and black-box voting were the REAL PTB's tactics to make sure that Hillary got her coronation.

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The California Democratic primary has come and gone, but the mail-in ballots are still being counted. Hillary Clinton was announced the winner over Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, but with each new vote tally, her lead diminishes. As of July 2, Clinton’s lead in California has shrunk from 12 percent to just 7.6 percent. In a previous story in The Inquisitr, Bernie had already flipped three counties by June 12.


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When the future once more goes sadly wrong, The People will be at fault for raising Hillary or Trump to be the next figurehead/leader of TPTB. But The People really d

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:06 PM

MORE ELITIST WHINGING ABOUT "TOO MUCH DEMOCRACY"

Yahoo Finance Editor-In-Chief Is Sad: "We're Suffering The Consequences Of Too Much Democracy"

http://andy-serwer.tumblr.com/post/146947887160/were-suffering-the-con
sequences-of-too-much



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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

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Saturday, July 9, 2016 8:59 AM

That's why the US originally had such ... limited ... democracy.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Tuesday, November 26, 2024 10:22 PM

Why Are Ivy League College Students Being Treated Like Babies Now?

https://old.bitchute.com/video/Rl2BojQJO3w/

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Wednesday, November 27, 2024 1:36 AM

Wow.
Y'all should read this thread.
The OP was prompted by a full-on pro-globalist response to Brexit.

Eight years later, after almost being completely derailed by crisis fabricated by, exaggerated by, and created by TPTB (TRUMP!RUSSIA!, Covid, RUSSIA!UKRAINE! in that order), forces of unified, national-level, democratic problem-solving have made only a little progress. Brexit was completely derailed. LePen still hasn't gotten into national office. France is still under control of the globalists- a Rothschild banker, to be exact. The German Green party was completely taken over by CIA neocons. Duterte was replaced by (another!) Marcos. Canada is controlled by a full-on, woke, globalist idiot.

Many politicians elected in response to globalism - Duterte, Milei, Bolsonaro, BoJo ... Trump(?) ... are reactionary and don't have workable fixes for national economic, financial, and environmental problems.

Even before TRUMP!RUSSIA! took over people's brains ...
THGR was a troll.
SECOND is still plagiarizing articles and focusing on taxes (What is WITH him and taxes anyway?)
The only diff is that REAVER actually posted a human article. Assuming it, too, wasn't plagiarized.

Really, read this OP and see how far we have come (not) in terms of addressing our common issues with a common purpose.

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I was born in 1954, and until now I would have said that the late 1960s was the greatest period of political convulsion I have lived through. Yet for all that the Vietnam War and the civil rights struggle changed American culture and reshaped political parties, in retrospect those wild storms look like the normal oscillations of a relatively stable political system. The present moment is different. Today’s citizen revolt — in the United States, Britain, and Europe — may upend politics as nothing else has in my lifetime.

In the late 1960s, elites were in disarray, as they are now — but back then they were fleeing from kids rebelling against their parents’ world; now the elites are fleeing from the parents. Extremism has gone mainstream. One of the most brazen features of the Brexit vote was the utter repudiation of the bankers and economists and Western heads of state who warned voters against the dangers of a split with the European Union. British Prime Minister David Cameron thought that voters would defer to the near-universal opinion of experts; that only shows how utterly he misjudged his own people.

Both the Conservative and the Labour parties in Britain are now in crisis. The British have had their day of reckoning; the American one looms. If Donald Trump loses, and loses badly (forgive me my reckless optimism, but I believe he will) the Republican Party may endure a historic split between its know-nothing base and its K Street/Chamber of Commerce leadership class. The Socialist government of France may face a similar fiasco in national elections next spring: Polls indicate that President François Hollande would not even make it to the final round of voting. Right-wing parties all over Europe are clamoring for an exit vote of their own.

Yes, it’s possible that all the political pieces will fly up into the air and settle down more or less where they were before, but the Brexit vote shows that shocking change isn’t very shocking anymore. Where, then, could those pieces end up? Europe is already pointing in one direction. In much of Europe, far-right nativist parties lead in the polls. So far, none has mustered a majority, though last month Norbert Hofer, the leader of Austria’s far-right Freedom Party, which traffics in Nazi symbolism, came within a hair of winning election as president. Mainstream parties of the left and right may increasingly combine forces to keep out the nationalists. This has already happened in Sweden, where a right-of-center party serves as the minority partner to the left-of-center government. If the Socialists in France do in fact lose the first round, they will almost certainly support the conservative Republi

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