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TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!

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Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:00 PM

Those are staggering numbers second. I can't recall seeing a breakdown like the one you've just posted before.

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Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:09 PM

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Clearly, a third term for Obama is the right choice for the world.

No third term for Obama because the Republicans planned ahead, starting in 1946. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_St
ates_Constitution


Obama had been President for only months before receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. Sweden still trusts Obama more than any other country. I wonder how Norway feels about Obama?

While looking for Norway, I did find this nugget of wisdom:

"many around the world also associate negative characteristics with the American people. Half or more in 10 countries think Americans are arrogant and many say they are greedy. Interestingly, most in the U.S. say Americans are arrogant (55%) and greedy (57%)."
www.pewglobal.org/2016/06/29/as-obama-years-draw-to-close-president-an
d-u-s-seen-favorably-in-europe-and-asia
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Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:20 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I've gotten to the point where I'm just plain ornery and oppositional. The more the establishment DNC, RNC, and media hate Trump, the more I want to vote for him. "More of the same" has gotten us all to an entirely untenable point socially, economically, environmentally, militarily, and financially. We've been slow-walked to the brink of a cliff. One more step, and who the fuck cares what comes after that?
. . . Now its time for the Dems - and the Repubs- to reap what they've sowed. Fuck 'em all.

I'm feeling some doubt that making the worst person President is the best strategy. But I could be wrong.

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Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:45 PM

Donald Trump apparently had a special console in his bedroom at Mar-a-Lago so he could listen in on staff phone calls.

Trump has backed the NSA’s bulk collection of metadata, telling conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt that “I tend to err on the side of security.” Trump added, “I assume when I pick up my telephone people are listening to my conversations anyway, if you want to know the truth.”

Donald Trump had a telephone console installed in his bedroom that acted like a switchboard, connecting to every phone extension on the estate, according to six former workers. Several of them said he used that console to eavesdrop on calls involving staff.

BuzzFeed News spoke with six former employees familiar with the phone system at the estate.

Four of them — speaking on condition of anonymity because they signed nondisclosure agreements — said that Trump listened in on phone calls at the club during the mid-2000s. They did not know if he eavesdropped more recently.

They said he listened in on calls between club employees or, in some cases, between staff and guests. None of them knew of Trump eavesdropping on guests or members talking on private calls with people who were not employees of Mar-a-Lago. They also said that Trump could eavesdrop only on calls made on the club’s landlines and not on calls made from guests’ cell phones.

Each of these four sources said they personally saw the telephone console, which some referred to as a switchboard, in Trump’s bedroom.

Two other sources — the tycoon’s former butler and Mar-a-Lago’s former security director — said the console in Trump’s private apartment merely made it easier for Trump to call other rooms in the estate. They said their former boss either did not or would not listen in on calls. They both support Trump for president.

Trump’s spokeswoman Hope Hicks responded to written questions with one sentence: “This is totally and completely untrue.”

www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/sources-donald-trump-listened-in-on-phone-
lines-at-mar-a-lag?utm_term=.ayq5EPmWk#.dfwQbjD6n

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Friday, July 1, 2016 12:52 AM




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Friday, July 1, 2016 2:04 AM



www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/6/27/1541750/-Cartoon-An-extremely-norma
l-year


It’s been a full year since Donald Trump announced his extremely normal candidacy. He’s said and done so many extremely normal things since then, it’s hard to keep track of them all — so I thought it might be a good moment for a brief look back at the sheer normality of it all. Obviously I’m only scratching the surface, though — sad!

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Friday, July 1, 2016 5:30 PM

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This guy/gal has his voice pegged.

That's Dan Perkins at www.dailykos.com/blog/Tom%20Tomorrow

Donald Trump compared to Julius Caesar, from Democracy — Too Much of a Good Thing?

Romans did become more permissive about everything else in life, with extravagant parties and luxury goods that would not have been permitted in earlier days becoming the norm among the elite. The Romans conquered more and more territory, acquired more and more slaves, had wilder and wilder parties, and conducted more and more lavish campaigns to win high office, a position from which they could grant themselves and their friends favors. The poor, of course, got poorer, with increasing numbers of the middle-class slipping into poverty, but with a few notable exceptions, the rich couldn’t have cared less.

Then one day a brash individual came along, a man of the elite but with the common touch. That man was Gaius Julius Caesar. Caesar was a fairly flamboyant character. One famous anecdote tells of an incident in which a youthful Caesar was kidnapped by pirates. He convinced the pirates to more than double his ransom, while simultaneously assuring them that he would kill them all as soon as they released him, a promise he kept. His three consecutive wives also didn’t stop him from having a robust extramarital love life. And to cut a long story short, he and his heir Octavian put an end to the Republic.

Caesar may have been a significantly less tawdry and therefore somewhat more palatable version of Trump, but the essence of what they stood for and the context isn’t all that different. They both shook up the elites of their day by appealing directly to the common person in a pact that understood that power for one would entail material improvement for the other. Just to be clear, this pact is no more democracy than holding elections is, because it entails neither political equality nor widespread participation. It is merely a nondemocratic reaction to a preexisting system of non-democracy. But it can deliver power for some. Caesar and Trump’s supporters have reacted to them in much the same way. For most people, Donald Trump can screw as many supermodels as he wants, as long as he gets them a manufacturing job back, just like Julius Caesar could loll around with Cleopatra as long as he kept up the bread and games.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/democracy-too-much-of-a-good-thing#!

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Friday, July 1, 2016 6:01 PM

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That's not surprising. You can't get what you want so you whine and want to fuck up everyone else. That's the Real You, Shanyu-GSTRING


How can you POSSIBLY interpret
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"More of the same" has gotten us all to an entirely untenable point socially, economically, environmentally, militarily, and financially. We've been slow-walked to the brink of a cliff. One more step, and who the fuck cares what comes after that?
as being "wanting to fuck everybody else"?

I'm not trying to fuck everybody else, I'M TRYING TO WARN YOU: DOOD, we are literally on the brink of several disasters:

The hedge fund debt (brought to you by TPTB) is "only" six times the world GDP.
For the first time EVER, the jet streams have crossed the equator.


It may not happen tomorrow, but it is surely coming, and you're going to be far more affected than I am, because, yanno, I'm going to be dead. Clinging to the shoe soles of the power group who brought us to this catastrophe is no way to survive. If, in the future, you should be cursing your miserable life as an overheated hungry member of the undifferentiated global poor please don't blame me as that previous generation which brought you to that sorry state. I have done what I can against it, and I'm still trying to avoid it in the future.


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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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Friday, July 1, 2016 6:22 PM

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Caesar may have been a significantly less tawdry and therefore somewhat more palatable version of Trump, but the essence of what they stood for and the context isn’t all that different. They both shook up the elites of their day by appealing directly to the common person in a pact that understood that power for one would entail material improvement for the other. Just to be clear, this pact is no more democracy than holding elections is, because it entails neither political equality nor widespread participation. It is merely a nondemocratic reaction to a preexisting system of non-democracy. But it can deliver power for some. Caesar and Trump’s supporters have reacted to them in much the same way. For most people, Donald Trump can screw as many supermodels as he wants, as long as he gets them a manufacturing job back, just like Julius Caesar could loll around with Cleopatra as long as he kept up the bread and games.
And now people are comparing Trump to ... Julius Caesar? What, wasn't Hitler and the devil extreme enough? I mean, don't you think this is all overblown?

Trump is not a nice guy but his detractors - including Hillary- are at least as bad, if not worse. All you have to do is look at Hillary's record of killing people and destabilizing nations to figure out that she's a mass murderer. I know that you believe - or you would like to believe- that Hillary is a basically decent person and that she represents a reasonable alternative, but she isn't and she doesn't. She's a power-hungry, vindictive, warmongering neocon who is beholden to international banks and Zionists. So tell me- how many people has Trump had killed lately?

The President does not have the power to change the nation legally (although Bush and Obama did a fine job shredding our Constitutional rights illegally). The ONLY POWER that the President has is over foreign policy, Congress will literally let him do nothing else. In fact, Trump as President might actually cause Congress to unify- wouldn't THAT be a kick! I'm hoping for a stalemate.

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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Friday, July 1, 2016 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Trump is not a nice guy but his detractors - including Hillary- are at least as bad, if not worse. All you have to do is look at Hillary's record of killing people and destabilizing nations to figure out that she's a mass murderer. I know that you believe - or you would like to believe- that Hillary is a basically decent person and that she represents a reasonable alternative, but she isn't and she doesn't. She's a power-hungry, vindictive, warmongering neocon who is beholden to international banks and Zionists. So tell me- how many people has Trump had killed lately?

You claim Hillary is a mass murderer. That is like claiming Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State for Bush, is a mass murderer. All the blame for any murdering the USA did is Obama’s and Bush’s and their military and their Secretaries of Defense. The blame is not Hillary’s or Condi’s. Those two women didn’t give any kill orders and didn’t pull any triggers. It was the men who did the killing and ordering the kills.

And as for Trump never killing in your opinion, he said: 'I could shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters.' He is so supremely confident that he believes he could commit murder and maintain his lead over his opponents.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/24/donald-trump-says-he-could-sho
ot-somebody-and-still-not-lose-voters

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