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Global Warming - Greatest scam in history !

POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 16:27
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Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:36 AM

None of these links relate to whether or not global warming exists. As I posted earlier, the lab was analyzing 'inorganic' stuff that could be dissolved in acids: rock, soils, and dusts. More specifically they seemed to be looking at uranium in the environment (uranium is in rock, soil and dust), health effects of different energy sources (probably looking at mineral ash pollution from coal and oil), and US coal (coal is a rock).

NOTHING relates to the validity of global warming, which has to do with gases in the atmosphere.

I'm not going to look into this again.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3443201/posts?page=44
"The inorganic section of the U.S. Geological Survey’s (USGS) Energy Geochemistry Laboratory in Lakewood, Colo. manipulated data on a variety of topics – including many related to the environment."
But not global warming.

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/topic/272518-federal-lab-shut-down-after-
18-years-of-disturbing-data-manipulation
/
repeat of the first

http://whatifthereisnorapture.blogspot.com/2016/06/disturbing-data-man
ipulation-forces.html

"The research topics that faced data manipulation – including uranium in the environment, health effects of energy resources, and U.S. coal resources and reserves – was “disturbing,” Westerman said."
But not global warming.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/23/federal-lab-forced-to-close-after-di
sturbing-data-manipulation
/
repeat of the previous article

http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=878032
repeat of the first article





Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
More linkies:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3443201/posts?page=44

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/topic/272518-federal-lab-shut-down-after-
18-years-of-disturbing-data-manipulation
/

http://whatifthereisnorapture.blogspot.com/2016/06/disturbing-data-man
ipulation-forces.html


http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/23/federal-lab-forced-to-close-after-di
sturbing-data-manipulation
/

http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=878032




So I went to the USGS' website and decided to do a few searches and see what kinds of papers their data was used in.

Out of curiosity, I did a search of "climate". No results.
So I looked for "uranium" and got a crap-ton of results. AHA! I know the database works!
So I tried for "global". Got a few hits on that, mostly on global distribution of gas or oil resources.
"Global climate" finds nothing.
"Glacial" brings up nothing.
"Carbon dioxide" brings up nothing.
"Carbon" brings up 106 papers, scanning the first page it seems mostly about carbon dioxide storage sites, but I can't call up more than that.
"Coal" brings up "The Paleozoic record of changes in global climate and sea level" (2004) and "The evolution of global climate from the Carboniferous to the Tertiary" (1984).

I can guess what a lab like this MIGHT be doing, especially if they have several mass spectrometers, and one of those tasks is to establish the atomic weight ratios of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen or other elements, and thus establish the geologic age of a particular deposit. I'll give you an example of how this might be useful: Say that there is a large methane pocket slowly bubbling up to the surface of an urban landscape which has both oil deposits and old landfills (which produce methane) and causing a hazard. ONE way to determine the source of the methane is to look at the C12 versus C14 ratios ... yanno, carbon-dating the gas. By carbon-dating the gas, one can determine if the source is geologic (a natural gas deposit) or historic (a "lost" landfill).

This is especially important when trying to establish the geologic age of carbon dioxide and water in a glacier, which can say something about geologic global warming.

However, I COULD FIND NO SUCH EVIDENCE THAT THIS LAB DID GLOBAL-WARMING WORK. OTHER work, yes, but not related to global warming.

That you keep insisting that this lab's fraud is evidence of some sort of conspiracy surrounding global warming ... when it had little, if anything, to do with the topic ... I just don't know what to say. It's global climate shift deniers grasping at straws because they've run out of anything substantive to say.

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Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:04 PM

Just more deniers denying solid science and believing denial propaganda bought by- you guessed it! - big energy companies like ExxonMobil.

Oh, what's this?

ExxonMobil climate change cover-up probe to expand as 17 AGs join NY to tackle fossil fuel firms

https://www.rt.com/usa/337698-exxonmobil-lawsuit-climate-change/

So much more!

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/koch-indu
stries
/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oil-cover-up-climate_us_570e98bbe4
b0ffa5937df6ce

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-money-funds-climate-cha
nge-denial-effort
/
http://graphics.latimes.com/oil-operations/

Are you really that gullible? I feel sorry for you.

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Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:29 AM

Deny Global Warming at your own expense. He is waiting for you!

http://insideclimatenews.org/

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Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The second link repeatedly generates an error -

The connection was reset

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
(or repeatedly, over days)
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
(get every page I try, just not this one)
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy (no), make sure that is permitted to access the Web. (accessing 'the Web' is fine, just not that page)


Thank you for your reply.
I checked the link yesterday, and again today - all on different computers. I was able to get to the link destination, no delay at all. I thank you for letting me know that you have a problem with this link or site, because there is no way for me to check if this problem exists for everybody else.
I saw a button for pdf which sent me to a different page/address. I have copied the link and posted below. If you have problems viewing this as well, I will try to copy it entirely.

https://www.doioig.gov/sites/doioig.gov/files/2016EAU010Public.pdf

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 11:05 AM

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2016/07/investigators-us-lab-w
orker-colorado-faked-test-results



Investigators: U.S. Lab Worker in Colorado Faked Test Results

A worker at a federal laboratory in Colorado intentionally manipulated test results for years, possibly tainting research that includes toxic metals in the Everglades, uranium near the Grand Canyon and coal in Afghanistan, investigators say. ... The manipulation occurred between 2008 and 2014 at the USGS Energy Geochemistry Laboratory in the Denver suburb of Lakewood, the inspector general said. The test samples were mostly coal and water.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2016/07/investigators-us-lab-w
orker-colorado-faked-test-results



Investigators: U.S. Lab Worker in Colorado Faked Test Results

A worker at a federal laboratory in Colorado intentionally manipulated test results for years, possibly tainting research that includes toxic metals in the Everglades, uranium near the Grand Canyon and coal in Afghanistan, investigators say. ... The manipulation occurred between 2008 and 2014 at the USGS Energy Geochemistry Laboratory in the Denver suburb of Lakewood, the inspector general said. The test samples were mostly coal and water.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!
And this has what to do with AGW?

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Wednesday, July 6, 2016 4:27 PM

Quote:

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2016/07/investigators-us-lab-w
orker-colorado-faked-test-results


Investigators: U.S. Lab Worker in Colorado Faked Test Results
A worker at a federal laboratory in Colorado intentionally manipulated test results for years, possibly tainting research that includes toxic metals in the Everglades, uranium near the Grand Canyon and coal in Afghanistan, investigators say. ... The manipulation occurred between 2008 and 2014 at the USGS Energy Geochemistry Laboratory in the Denver suburb of Lakewood, the inspector general said. The test samples were mostly coal and water.- KIKI

And this has what to do with AGW?- REAVERFAN



NOTHING, I think!

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