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Saturday, May 28, 2016 6:03 PM

Donald Trump masqueraded as publicist to brag about himself
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-alter-ego-barron/2016/05/
12/02ac99ec-16fe-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html


www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/23/1528990/-Cartoon-The-great-Trump-ov
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Is Donald Trump’s Hair a $60,000 Weave? A Gawker Investigation
http://gawker.com/is-donald-trump-s-hair-a-60-000-weave-a-gawker-inves
t-1777581357



But at least if he loses it will be all over in 6 months . . . Right?

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Saturday, May 28, 2016 6:46 PM


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Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:38 PM

It turns out that liberals are just as fact-avoidant as Tea Partiers.

This thread has devolved into nothing more than name-calling, complete with pictures. I recall getting splattered with the same style of "discussion" from the other side. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.

So, about Trump.

Unlike Hillary and Sanders, who both have solid political records (as Senators- and in Hillary's case her record as Scy State and First Lady) Trump's political record is ... ahhh ... elusive. So all we have to speculate on is his hair, his family, his business record, his hair, his hands .... his hair ... really, nothing substantive that will tell us what he might do as President.

And his campaign statements don't clarify anything. They're deliberately outrageous, and even I don't believe that he believes 85% of what he's saying.

But that's OK, because if there's one thing that Obama taught me is that you can discount about 99% of what a candidate says or promises. (I voted for Obama on the basis that if he only accomplished 15% of what he promised, it would be a step in the right direction, and as it turned out I was 99% wrong.)

Anyway, back to Trump.

What I got out of Trump's business history is that Tump is a salesman. Every self-made billionaire - from Rockefeller to Gates - has ONE THING that they pursue, and it's not money. Money is only a marker. For Gates and Rockefeller and Vanderbilt they wanted 100% market domination. It was their goal to create the widest horizontal and tallest possible vertical monopolies in their (new) market niches. For Trump, the one driving factor seems to be - really- the art of the deal. It's a challenge for him to sell ... an investment, a TV show, a book ...

A candidacy.

Unlike most of Trumps critics, I've listened closely to a few of his stump speeches, and I realize that 90% of what Trump is saying is sales pitch. I don't know if his supporters believe what Trump is saying, but I'm sure Trump doesn't. (Yanno, kind of like Hillary, who's just as much of a snake-oil salesman but less convincing.) The reason why I know that Trump is more than his campaign speeches and his birther movement is that when he gets into private conversations with some of his detractors they come out as either supporters or at least grudging fellow-travelers.

So Trump is a salesman. Is he running for the highest office in the land just because it's there, like Mt. Everest? Is he looking for just another notch in his belt?

Again, I have just speculation. But I sense that there is something driving Trump besides the challenge of running for office, and that he really does have a goal. First of all, unlike Hillary, who I think is so wedded to international banks she would unhesitatingly sell the US economy downriver, Trump is a national capitalist. He makes all of his money here, not abroad. His power, his ego, and his fortune are attached to the UNITED STATES leisure economy, not to Goldman Sachs or the military-industrial complex. And from that vantage point, Trump has seen American economic prospects (and therefore his) deteriorate due to outsourcing and needless bellicosity. From his viewpoint, he would make "better deals" for American than the previous six leaders and one prospective one. And he probably would. Trump's self-interest in something I can believe in.

But if you want a measure of what Trump is about, just listen to one of his detractors; Meg Whitman (Hewlett Packard and former candidate for governor of CA)

Quote:

When CNBC’s Jim Cramer chimed in that Trump was a “great businessman,” Whitman said, “You know, I think the jury is out on that.”
This from the woman who is widely seen as driving HP into the ground. But I digress ...

Quote:

Free trade and the ability to manufacture [ABROAD] where it is more cost-effective is key to competitiveness, she said, especially as U.S. companies compete against Chinese rival

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Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:44 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by second:
Jayne (or Adam Baldwin) tweeted today that ‘Real Women’ Like Trump
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin

Rush Limbaugh declared today that “real women” like Donald Trump, and in case you’re wondering, yes, he did define exactly what constitutes a “real woman”:

“Not left-wing activist Feminazi-type women, you know the type of women I’m talking about. The girl next door, the businesswoman, the woman that’s confident, the woman that likes herself––those are the kind of women we’re talking about here. Wholesome American woman.”

Limbaugh made it clear he’s “not talking about women that are angry, that feel like they’re victims of something, that think men are the biggest obstacles they face on earth.”

He went on to declare that these “real women” like Trump because “he’s not PC-whipped” and “he stands up for himself.”

Because, Limbaugh concluded, “no real woman respects any man who can be so easily PC-whipped… and whatever else that you might say about Trump, that is something that he isn’t.”


All of those facts must really burn you.


Facts!? Really!? You've got to be kidding me!

Both Drumpf and Limpdick are slime from the same cloth.......no, strike that, bottom of my shoe. No, the skeezy a-hole of Cheney......yeah, that's the ticket!

SGG


Sure, I conjured that the facts would really burn you as well, but I didn't know you were reading along.
You make Pavlov's Dog look like a judicious and critical thinker.

Are there any of these facts that you care to dispute? Or are you only upset that they don't fit into your surrealism?
Or is your woman directing you to post that?

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Sunday, May 29, 2016 11:17 AM

Agreed. He's a pathological sleaze - a million times worse than anyone on this planet - and when people press him for answers he caves and tries to "shrug" it away. The housing bubble thing - "Oh, I'm a business man, I'm supposed to make money."

What he leaves out is "I'm a sleaze bag, I'm supposed to step on people's necks when they are down to take advantage of them - because I'm rich. Poor people
suck and are losers." He says he loves the un-educated. There is a reason; he
takes advantage of them as well.

FUCK Donald and anyone who believes this scumbag has anyone else in mind but Donald Drumpf. How about that? Hilary is rich, but at least she's not a scumbag, degenerate sleaze-bag fuck who uses women like so much toilet paper.

Hilary for POTUS!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck anyone else!


SGG

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
second

While I have no doubt about the sheer meanness of republicans . . .

It's easy to extend the generous hand when you feel your own life is secure. But when it starts to become a zero-sum system, their gain is your loss; and suddenly, people become far less charitable. . . .

Well fuck [Hillary] and the disease-riddled donkey she's whipping to the finish line so she can pocket her gold.

I want to make this simple. Here's what Donald Trump did recently:

He pledged $1 million to help veterans.

He tried to weasel out of it for months by saying he already paid and hoped no one would notice he had not.

When he finally got caught, he insulted the reporter who caught him.

Even among sleazebags, this is not normal behavior. This is pathological sleaziness. It's literally beyond belief. Do not let Trump distract you with his latest barrage of insults. Do not turn your attention to Hillary. Do not let this be normalized away as "just another Trump thing."

Maybe we need to put this in simpler terms.

$1 million is one ten-thousandth of Trump's claimed wealth. The average American household has a net worth of about $50,000. One ten-thousandth of that is $5. In terms of its effect on his personal finances, what Trump did was the equivalent of promising five bucks to a homeless vet and then trying to weasel out of it. What kind of person would do that?

This deserves far more attention than it's gotten. If character is supposed to be important in our presidents, this is evidence of the most contemptible kind of character imaginable. He tried to cheat a bunch of veterans! Can we please not shrug our shoulders and let this fade away into talk of Hillary?

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/25/how-social-media-hel
ped-crack-the-case-of-donald-trumps-1-million-donation-to-veterans
/

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/caught-fibbing-trump-scrambles-addres
s-veterans-controversy#64470


www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-vets-donations_us_57448908e4
b0613b512b6131


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-veterans-group-donations-timel
ine


Need I mention that multi-billionaires can go insane? Houston's very own billionaire Howard Hughes for example. Trump is already going there. Eight years from now, President Trump could be hoarding bottles of his own urine like Hughes did. Or in Trump's case, his own hair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Hughes#Later_years_as_a_Las_Vegas
_recluse

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Sunday, May 29, 2016 11:36 AM

Who's crazier? The man who lies or the woman who wants nuclear confrontation with Russia?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:01 PM

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...............HA!

You've got to be the stupidest motherfucker on the face of the planet, and below as well. You really think women like Drumpf, or is it his money? Drumpf is a street thug who happened to inherit a wad of cash from his daddy..........that's all.

Want to talk about Nazis, both you and drumpf!

Bugs Bunny would love you. Hiel Hitler!


SGG



Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Jayne (or Adam Baldwin) tweeted today that ‘Real Women’ Like Trump
https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin

Rush Limbaugh declared today that “real women” like Donald Trump, and in case you’re wondering, yes, he did define exactly what constitutes a “real woman”:

“Not left-wing activist Feminazi-type women, you know the type of women I’m talking about. The girl next door, the businesswoman, the woman that’s confident, the woman that likes herself––those are the kind of women we’re talking about here. Wholesome American woman.”

Limbaugh made it clear he’s “not talking about women that are angry, that feel like they’re victims of something, that think men are the biggest obstacles they face on earth.”

He went on to declare that these “real women” like Trump because “he’s not PC-whipped” and “he stands up for himself.”

Because, Limbaugh concluded, “no real woman respects any man who can be so easily PC-whipped… and whatever else that you might say about Trump, that is something that he isn’t.”


All of those facts must really burn you.


Facts!? Really!? You've got to be kidding me!

Both Drumpf and Limpdick are slime from the same cloth.......no, strike that, bottom of my shoe. No, the skeezy a-hole of Cheney......yeah, that's the ticket!

SGG


Sure, I conjured that the facts would really burn you as well, but I didn't know you were reading along.
You make Pavlov's Dog look like a judicious and critical thinker.

Are there any of these facts that you care to dispute? Or are you only upset that they don't fit into your surrealism?
Or is your woman directing you to post that?

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Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:06 PM

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Agreed. He's a pathological sleaze - a million times worse than anyone on this planet - and when people press him for answers he caves and tries to "shrug" it away. The housing bubble thing - "Oh, I'm a business man, I'm supposed to make money."

What he leaves out is "I'm a sleaze bag, I'm supposed to step on people's necks when they are down to take advantage of them - because I'm rich. Poor people
suck and are losers." He says he loves the un-educated. There is a reason; he
takes advantage of them as well.

FUCK Donald and anyone who believes this scumbag has anyone else in mind but Donald Drumpf. How about that? Hilary is rich, but at least she's not a scumbag, degenerate sleaze-bag fuck who uses women like so much toilet paper.

Hilary for POTUS!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck anyone else!

Hillary would probably provoke WWIII thru unmitigated hubris. I'm not kidding. She's a neocon-in-drag.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

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Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:17 PM

"You really think women like Drumpf?'

Hunh? You're incoherent.

Was I speaking for 'women' --- at all? I was bringing up Hillary's follies - oh. I meant to say her greatest accomplishments - Libya, Ukraine and Syria, and her stated platform to get tough on Russia because she doesn't 'believe' Putin will ever go nuclear for any reason; and too, let's not forget her 110% support of Israel, no matter what, and her cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia.

Some people are concerned about the economy, some people about abortion. I'm focused on who is least likely to get us into a nuclear exchange with Russia. Maybe you could address that.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:19 PM

It turns out that evil fucking trolls have shit for brains...................oh, look at that - you know something you're absolutely right. This has devolved into
nothing but name-calling.

What a shame! If it makes you feel any better, I'll use a Drumpf statement to smooth things over - Pocahantis...............that seems the Non-PC trend these
days. Factual, concise, intelligent and totally gentlemanly of the super-rich gentleman from New York. The one candidate that, according to JSF, is a total
babe magnet. The one candidate that has the market cornered in intelligent conversation and has his finger on the plus of true Americans. According to JSF,
a real he-man (makes you wonder how he knows this, but I digress).

There that should get things back on track. Only political and factual statements from now on.

In other news: The Brooklyn Bridge has been offered up in a financial scheme to be sold to a Conglomerate from the West Coast (Film at 11). DeBlazio, the mayor, has
promised a full investigation.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It turns out that liberals are just as fact-avoidant as Tea Partiers.

This thread has devolved into nothing more than name-calling, complete with pictures. I recall getting splattered with the same style of "discussion" from the other side. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.

So, about Trump.

Unlike Hillary and Sanders, who both have solid political records (as Senators- and in Hillary's case her record as Scy State and First Lady) Trump's political record is ... ahhh ... elusive. So all we have to speculate on is his hair, his family, his business record, his hair, his hands .... his hair ... really, nothing substantive that will tell us what he might do as President.

And his campaign statements don't clarify anything. They're deliberately outrageous, and even I don't believe that he believes 85% of what he's saying.

But that's OK, because if there's one thing that Obama taught me is that you can discount about 99% of what a candidate says or promises. (I voted for Obama on the basis that if he only accomplished 15% of what he promised, it would be a step in the right direction, and as it turned out I was 99% wrong.)

Anyway, back to Trump.

What I got out of Trump's business history is that Tump is a salesman. Every self-made billionaire - from Rockefeller to Gates - has ONE THING that they pursue, and it's not money. Money is only a marker. For Gates and Rockefeller and Vanderbilt they wanted 100% market domination. It was their goal to create the widest horizontal and tallest possible vertical monopolies in their (new) market niches. For Trump, the one driving factor seems to be - really- the art of the deal. It's a challenge for him to sell ... an investment, a TV show, a book ...

A candidacy.

Unlike most of Trumps critics, I've listened closely to a few of his stump speeches, and I realize that 90% of what Trump is saying is sales pitch. I don't know if his supporters believe what Trump is saying, but I'm sure Trump doesn't. (Yanno, kind of like Hillary, who's just as much of a snake-oil salesman but less convincing.) The reason why I know that Trump is more than his campaign speeches and his birther movement is that when he gets into private conversations with some of his detractors they come out as either supporters or at least grudging fellow-travelers.

So Trump is a salesman. Is he running for the highest office in the land just because it's there, like Mt. Everest? Is he looking for just another notch in his belt?

Again, I have just speculation. But I sense that there is something driving Trump besides the challenge of running for office, and that he really does have a goal. First of all, unlike Hillary, who I think is so wedded to international banks she would unhesitatingly sell the US economy downriver, Trump is a national capitalist. He makes all of his money here, not abr

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