TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!

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SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:05 PM

Disturbing but true, G.

People have been subjected to the "dumbing down" effect across the country. Only in America, the country I love, has been flim-flammed. "We worship" a dumb family for
their antics and sexual exploits, pay sports stars millions for playing a game, but pay teachers - the most important and influential persons in our children's lives outside the family - peanuts. How could we do anything but fail behind that approach to life. And here we have the end result, Donald J. Trump.......con man extraordinaire.

P.T. Barnum was right.

SGG

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Someone I knew who had worked for a soap opera production company once told me that weddings were a no-no in a soap opera, the reason being that the TV station would be inundated with wedding gifts for the fictional newlyweds, from fans who were unable distinguish fact from fiction, reality from TV.

I used to blame the great unwashed too, but have since taken a more charitable position. It turns out that expecting them to suddenly rise up and learn a thing or 2 about ANYTHING (food, art, politics, great science fiction shows) is in itself, pretty damn stupid. The sample size is the whole of recorded human history - it proves that it hasn't and won't happen, so check - don't expect people to wise up. In fact, count on them not doing so!
To me, worse and quantifiably more responsible, are those that have enough intelligence to know better, but let emotion and an unrepentant egotism blind them into following a darker, more selfish path. "I know better than you!" Both parties are over flowing with these types. So I blame them first and foremost - they are the ones that have the power to control who gets shoved in our face to pick from. Just look at the 17 riders of the GOP Apocolypse. How can you blame simple people for only having them to choose from? 17 choices and no options.
Dems are only a little better.
Plus, there's the mechanics of choosing. I see where we're finally at a place where more than 50% of voters will likely cast their vote based on "anyone but the other person..." How is that not a total indictment of the whole election process? I look forward to watching John Oliver's take from last Sunday.

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:08 PM

If you don't get it, you don't get it. But no, I don't have to try again.

You can't build a nation with boobs. You can't create a society with nuns.

SGG

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SHINY, whatever point you're trying to make is muddled by your attempt at humor/sarcasm. You'll have to try again.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

SECOND

Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:47 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Disturbing but true, G.

People have been subjected to the "dumbing down" effect across the country. Only in America, the country I love, has been flim-flammed. "We worship" a dumb family for their antics and sexual exploits, pay sports stars millions for playing a game, but pay teachers - the most important and influential persons in our children's lives outside the family - peanuts. How could we do anything but fail behind that approach to life. And here we have the end result, Donald J. Trump.......con man extraordinaire.

P.T. Barnum was right.

SGG

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I see where we're finally at a place where more than 50% of voters will likely cast their vote based on "anyone but the other person..."

Either as a cause or an effect, I doubt that poor pay for teachers explains why some Americans have poor taste. And are easily conned.

Teaching Salary Data by State
State Starting Salary Average Salary
California $41,259 $69,324
Colorado $32,126 $49,844
Connecticut $42,924 $69,397
Delaware $39,338 $59,679
www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/

Interestingly enough, there is an editorial: Millions of ordinary Americans support Donald Trump. Here's why by Thomas Frank.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/donald-trump-why-america
ns-support

Frank gives his explanation -- since Obama failed to fix everyone’s life, then the exact opposite of Obama will fix it. I can’t exactly see why the Republican party or Trump himself would expend the energy or money, once in the White House. What would motivate them, when the fix would not be to their advantage?

SECOND

Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:23 PM

"His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary"

It's tradition for presidential candidates to release a note from their physician testifying to their fitness to fulfill the duties of the presidency. On December 14, Donald Trump submitted his entry to this quadrennial custom. It is, I think, one of the most revealing documents of the campaign.

The letter, supposedly written by Dr. Harold Bornstein of Lenox Hill Hospital in Manhattan, is four paragraphs long and defies parody. Note that it mispelled “To Whom It May Concern”

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I have been the personal physician of Mr. Donald J. Trump since 1980. His previous physician was my father, Dr. Jacob Bornstein. Over the past 39 years, I am pleased to report that Mr. Trump has had no significant medical problems. Mr. Trump has had a recent complete medical examination that showed only positive results. Actually, his blood pressure, 110/65, and laboratory test results were astonishingly excellent.

Over the past twelve months, he has lost at least fifteen pounds. Mr. Trump takes 81 mg of aspirin daily and a low dose of a statin. His PSA test score is 0.15 (very low). His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary.

Mr. Trump has suffered no form of cancer, has never had a hip, knee or shoulder replacement or any other orthopedic surgery. His only surgery was an appendectomy at age ten. His cardiovascular status is excellent. He has no history of ever using alcohol or tobacco products.

If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.

This is from Trump's web site. Seriously. www.donaldjtrump.com/images/uploads/trump_health_record.pdf

This is ... not how most doctor notes read. "Reached for comment regarding this, a spokesperson at the American Medical Association just giggled," reported the Daily Beast.
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/14/the-donald-s-trumped-up-medi
cal-report.html

The letter sounds as if it were written by Trump himself, and perhaps it was.

A good president needs to surround himself with people willing to stand up to him, people who aren't cowed by the trappings of the office. But Trump didn't even choose a personal physician unintimidated by the trappings of his wealth. A good president needs people around him who will say things that might make him angry. But Trump has managed to surround himself with people who will say the exact things he wants said, in the exact way he would say them.

One of the dangers of the presidency is that it's easy for anyone who controls nuclear weapons to insulate himself from hard truths and unpleasant critiques. But good decisions require difficult conversations. Presidents often have to hear things they don't want to hear — that an idea isn't good, that a strategy has become unworkable, that a policy doesn't add up, that a trusted subordinate is underperforming, that a strategy won't survive public or judicial scrutiny.

There are many positions where one might accept a pliable crony. But Trump's "personal physician" should not be one of them.

SECOND

Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:58 PM

One of the standard parts of Donald Trump’s allure is his insistence that he’ll make sure that Apple will assemble their iPad and iPhone in the US rather than China. How many jobs could be moved to the USA and for how long before the jobs are obsolete? At Apple’s supplier in China, Foxconn, 60,000 factory workers were replaced with robots. One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.

Trump did not go into specifics (he never does) but he wants guaranteed-for-life jobs at Apple USA for employees starting at 18 and retiring at 67 years old. Good luck getting that law passed, President Trump. Good luck to the graduates of 2016 on their guaranteed 49 years of paid work at Apple USA for $15 per hour. Trump cares deeply for the wellbeing of high school graduates building iPhones by hand. Trump failed to say it, but robots will be outlawed at Apple assembly plants in the USA. Obviously, Apple might split into two companies to avoid Trump’s new robot/employment laws. One Apple might assemble and sell iPhones only in the USA and the other Apple serves the rest of the world. What will President Trump do to thwart evil Apple?
www.scmp.com/news/china/economy/article/1949918/rise-robots-60000-work
ers-culled-just-one-factory-chinas

SECOND

Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:38 PM

What kind of scum wants people thrown out of their houses so that he can buy the property cheaply? Trump!

SECOND

Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:24 PM

Trump sued to get out of $40 million in personal loans he'd taken out to build Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago in 2008, arguing the financial collapse was an unexpected "force majeure," or act of God, that negated his duties to repay the loan.
www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-sued-bank-40m-debt-housing-cra
sh-article-1.2648758

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:05 AM

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Are your referring to the fake suicide, or the coverup and whitewash?

Or are you trying to blend them together, muddy the facts.
None of your false choices.

So you are incapable of answering the simple question?
Are you confused, or is it because you shun the truth at every turn?

SECOND

Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:39 AM

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Are your referring to the fake suicide, or the coverup and whitewash?

Or are you trying to blend them together, muddy the facts.
None of your false choices.

So you are incapable of answering the simple question?
Are you confused, or is it because you shun the truth at every turn?

It's always been a little bit unclear to what extent anyone believes Hillary shot Vince Foster in the head as opposed to cynically peddling murder theories for partisan advantage. Trump is seeking partisan advantage because he is in a fight with Hillary. See how Trump might be a liar?

How Foster died is very clear. In the days before his death, Foster was having trouble eating or sleeping. He told his sister that he was suffering from depression but was afraid that seeing a psychiatrist would cost him his security clearance. His sister provided him with the names of two DC-area psychiatrists anyway, and urged him to see one "off the record" to alleviate his clearance concerns. He called one, but got an answering machine. He spoke to his doctor on the phone in Little Rock and got a prescription for antidepressants.

Then his body was found in a park with a bullet through his head and a gun in his hand.

The US Park Police had jurisdiction over the matter and concluded, in conjunction with the FBI, that it was a suicide. Later investigations by independent counsels Robert Fisk and Kenneth Starr concluded the same thing. When a depressed man is found dead in a park with no sign of a struggle and gun residue on his hand, the natural conclusion is suicide, and every subsequent piece of evidence confirmed that finding. Depression plus easy access to firearms lead to an avoidable death, as it all too often does in the United States.

1KIKI

Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:30 AM

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While I have no doubt about the sheer meanness of republicans, it wasn't Johnson and The Great Society that did democrats in. Not according to the time-line in the link which I'll repost http://www.people-press.org/interactives/party-id-trend/ .

Though democratic identification was trending more or less up starting at 1947 and 40%, Kennedy brought it up from 46% to 50%. And while it fell under Johnson to 42% by the end of his presidency, it may have also been due to the Vietnam War. Democratic identification rebounded during Nixon's terms to 44% and added another 2% during Ford's stay at the WH. It dropped during Carter's term to 41%, but rose in the early Reagan years to 44%.

While Kennedy peaked the numbers, 'd' identification ran at roughly 43% from 1950 until ...

... 1985 and into Reagan's second term.

So, first if all, let me point out that 'd' identification survived 20 years after Johnson's Great Society.

What happened to it, then?

I believe the US's good fortune to be the only developed economy left standing after WWII had run out of steam.

And that's where the charts in this link are relevant. http://www.russellsage.org/sites/all/files/chartbook/Income%20and%20Ea
rnings.pdf . You'll see that income grew quickly for all levels of society until 1970. At that point it leveled off dramatically for most. And at that point, while family income continued to grow - though more slowly - it happened because while individual income stagnated, more women went to work. The years of better and better came to an end. The boundless optimism in the future that people previously had, died.

It's easy to extend the generous hand when you feel your own life is secure. But when it starts to become a zero-sum system, their gain is your loss; and suddenly, people become far less charitable.

I believe people had been feeling the pinch for quite a while. The good will of the liberal formula started to seem inappropriate for the times. And Reagan provided the mean, selfish, self-serving rationale for people to adopt, under the veneer of oldy times and shiny cities aways away somewhere.

And democrats - with their organizational ties and back-room deals and small-minded time-lines - failed to come up with an opposing muscular counter of optimism in the face of rough circumstances. And STILL haven't come up with one.

Which is why we have Hillary, where the only reason to vote for her corrupt, self-serving, greedy ass is that the opposition is worse on social issues.

Well fuck her and the disease-riddled donkey she's whipping to the finish line so she can pocket her gold.

Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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