10 Cloverfield Lane
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UPDATED: Monday, April 11, 2016 01:38
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I agree with the capsule review in moria.co.nz but I have a much better review from the website Roger Ebert.com by Brian Tallerico................
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/10-cloverfield-lane-2016
Now that's how you present a review with little to no spoilers. I really thought he
hit the mark regarding the movie. He gave the same 3 stars as did moria, but I would call it Good rather than Fair, but not great. I was on the edge of my seat and felt it was entertaining enough to recommend people go and enjoy it at the theater. I totally get that critics, especially those that have been at it for a number of years, get jaded and develop a thick skin when it comes to hundreds, if not, thousands of movies.
I may seek out those movies mentioned in the review, for entertainment and out of curiosity. But I'm not a fan of including spoilers in a review, and feel that there are creative ways to get the point across. Anyway, it is a good solid film that kept my interest and had me wondering what would come next. You will note in Tallerico's review he points out a couple of minor flaws, but he still maintains the integrity of the review - it is my contention that the film earned every syllable.
By the way, I liked the fact that it was NOT a strict sequel and that the deliberate pace enhanced the creep factor. My son, who took me to see this film, said it was better the second time around. I could see that, because it's all in the details. Abrams picked good writers, and the cast was so good in creating a world out of thin air. "Spiritual successor" I can see where one would think it's
a bunch of marketing bullschoy; I would lean toward that secret ingredient that makes the Colonel's fried chicken so finger-licking good.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The http://moria.co.nz reviewer did rate the movie 3 stars, meaning “Fair But Not Great”.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I totally disagree with the review and what is said about the ending. Plus there is a way of reviewing the film without giving away spoilers, this one, I feel, was an amateurish attempt at critiquing the film and including audience reactions to justify the overall critique.
SGG
I guess it is hard to keep up your enthusiasm for 10 Cloverfield Lane when it is not an outright Cloverfield sequel but rather, as Abrams has put it, a “spiritual successor,” which is pure marketing BS. It would have been the same movie if honestly called 10 Cornfield Lane.
The original Cloverfield got only 2½ stars in a much more detailed review.
http://moria.co.nz/sciencefiction/cloverfield-2008.htm
After reviewing one genre movie a day for 20 years, all Science Fiction or Horror or Fantasy, http://moria.co.nz has seen every cinematic and marketing trick humanity knows for those kinds of movies. Some old tricks and recycled story endings are not appreciated by a critic after the tenth time. Critic's Amnesia is the only cure for a certain kind of movie jadedness.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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You saw her first in Pilgrim (2010) and then in DH4 (2007)?
Reverse that...............DH4, then Pilgrim. I don't remember her in Death Proof, I must go back and watch it again. I know that she was in Final Destination 3, but it's not my cup of tea. I think she would make an awesome action hero, perhaps one of those YA novels turned blockbuster franchise.
SGG
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She was the one in the cheerleader outfit in Death Proof.
I had to be dragged to see Cloverfield Lane as the trailers really didn't do much for me. But ultimately, I enjoyed it. Not great enough to buy for my home library, but I'll rent it to see what I missed the first time around.
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Now I understand why you dislike the Moria website. It is for people making movies, not people casually watching movies.
Take for example the review of The Little Prince (2015), a movie that Moria covered the day after 10 Cloverfield Lane.
http://moria.co.nz/fantasy/little-prince-2015.htm
Notice that the very first thing in the review is a list of the people who made the movie: Director, Writer, Producer. Then Actors. Then a one paragraph summary of the plot. That plot summary ought to make you think of SPOILERS!
That is nothing like how thousands of reviewers or www.rogerebert.com are organized, where rogerebert actually wrote about 10 Cloverfield Lane: "I will tread very lightly in the review to follow, but I won’t be hurt if you want to click away right about now. Come back after you've seen it."
If www.rogerebert.com is analogous to eating KFC fried chicken out of the bucket, moria is watching the chicken being slaughtered and fried and then tasting it.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I agree with the capsule review in moria.co.nz but I have a much better review from the website Roger Ebert.com by Brian Tallerico................
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/10-cloverfield-lane-2016
Now that's how you present a review with little to no spoilers. I really thought he hit the mark regarding the movie. . . . I would lean toward that secret ingredient that makes the Colonel's fried chicken so finger-licking good.
SGG
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I normally enjoy and seek out Mary Elizabeth Winstead flicks, at least since Quinten and DH4, but from what trailers I've seen, her role appears like window dressing.
But I should check it out after your post.
Should I see the first film beforehand?
The two movies share something in common, in their title, but to be honest, I can't tell you one is related to the other.
Nor can I say they aren't.
So... I'd see one before the other, as long as you see both. Dunno if it matters.
Mary Elizabeth ? I'm embarrassed to say she first caught my eye in Sky High ( 2005 ) which also featured Danielle Panabaker , now appearing in The Flash.
( - Another side bar , Danielle was born a few days after Elizabeth Henstridge, aka Jemma Simmons from Shield. Both Danielle and Elizabeth are adorable , and play the part of sexy sciency nerd girl just fine :)
That is all. )
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Thanks for the heads up on Death Proof.
I'm glad you were able to enjoy 10CL for what it's worth, a good solid film, and not a bad one for a first time director. Unfortunately the trailers were not much for getting folks excited to go see it in theaters. I was just excited about John Goodman and Mary Elizabeth Winstead, I knew nothing about the movie itself, other than the Cloverfield name.
I agree with you about adding this to my personal collection, but it may become part of a trilogy (as the ending suggested) and so, I reserve the right to change my mind. This may take a while. But I think you're right in wanting to view it a second time, you may catch things that you missed or overlooked the first time around (as my son did).
SGG
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Originally posted by Moose:
She was the one in the cheerleader outfit in Death Proof.
I had to be dragged to see Cloverfield Lane as the trailers really didn't do much for me. But ultimately, I enjoyed it. Not great enough to buy for my home library, but I'll rent it to see what I missed the first time around.
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Yes, very true, and until you pointed it out, I was not aware of the type of website it was. It is more about the blueprint of movie making, the basic ingredients with a dash of history behind the movie (at least I got that from the Little Prince review). It is more for industry consumption than for mass appeal.
I didn't even know that it was about an animated feature until I scrolled down to the bottom for the trailer. I went back to read some of the review (it's very bare-bones) to see if I missed something. The part about this film being animated wasn't mentioned until the 4th paragraph, which is a no-no in journalistic terms. Now, don't get me wrong, at times a reviewer may go into the film's background or compare it to a similar production, but always with the end product in mind. For instance, someone might mention Mary Elizabeth's other movies, but may not do so for Jennifer Lawrence, a more well-known actor.
Still though, there is some purpose to the site as a tool for those who are looking to hire quality people in the industry, and, at the very least, provide a list of professionals with a particular experience in the field. I would not seek this site out for your average everyday consumer review. Exactly, it's like getting a guided tour of the Colonel's slaughter house and kitchen before sitting down for the meal.
When I sit down for a meal, I don't want to know how it got there, I just want to know what's in it and does it taste good.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:
Now I understand why you dislike the Moria website. It is for people making movies, not people casually watching movies.
Take for example the review of The Little Prince (2015), a movie that Moria covered the day after 10 Cloverfield Lane.
http://moria.co.nz/fantasy/little-prince-2015.htm
Notice that the very first thing in the review is a list of the people who made the movie: Director, Writer, Producer. Then Actors. Then a one paragraph summary of the plot. That plot summary ought to make you think of SPOILERS!
That is nothing like how thousands of reviewers or www.rogerebert.com are organized, where rogerebert actually wrote about 10 Cloverfield Lane: "I will tread very lightly in the review to follow, but I won’t be hurt if you want to click away right about now. Come back after you've seen it."
If www.rogerebert.com is analogous to eating KFC fried chicken out of the bucket, moria is watching the chicken being slaughtered and fried and then tasting it.Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I agree with the capsule review in moria.co.nz but I have a much better review from the website Roger Ebert.com by Brian Tallerico................
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/10-cloverfield-lane-2016
Now that's how you present a review with little to no spoilers. I really thought he hit the mark regarding the movie. . . . I would lean toward that secret ingredient that makes the Colonel's fried chicken so finger-licking good.
SGG
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You saw her first in Pilgrim (2010) and then in DH4 (2007)?
Reverse that...............DH4, then Pilgrim. I don't remember her in Death Proof, I must go back and watch it again. I know that she was in Final Destination 3, but it's not my cup of tea. I think she would make an awesome action hero, perhaps one of those YA novels turned blockbuster franchise.
SGG
She was adorable in Death Proof, and Action Hero in Sky High. She was not in top credits for Death Proof, so that was a pleasant surprise to see her again.
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Originally posted by second:
Now I understand why you dislike the Moria website. It is for people making movies, not people casually watching movies.
Take for example the review of The Little Prince (2015), a movie that Moria covered the day after 10 Cloverfield Lane.
http://moria.co.nz/fantasy/little-prince-2015.htm
Notice that the very first thing in the review is a list of the people who made the movie: Director, Writer, Producer. Then Actors. Then a one paragraph summary of the plot. That plot summary ought to make you think of SPOILERS!
That is nothing like how thousands of reviewers or www.rogerebert.com are organized, where rogerebert actually wrote about 10 Cloverfield Lane: "I will tread very lightly in the review to follow, but I won’t be hurt if you want to click away right about now. Come back after you've seen it."
If www.rogerebert.com is analogous to eating KFC fried chicken out of the bucket, moria is watching the chicken being slaughtered and fried and then tasting it.Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I agree with the capsule review in moria.co.nz but I have a much better review from the website Roger Ebert.com by Brian Tallerico................
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/10-cloverfield-lane-2016
Now that's how you present a review with little to no spoilers. I really thought he hit the mark regarding the movie. . . . I would lean toward that secret ingredient that makes the Colonel's fried chicken so finger-licking good.
SGG
Does rogerebert discuss the endings of every film, or are there some films that are not SPOILERed?
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
For instance, someone might mention Mary Elizabeth's other movies, but may not do so for Jennifer Lawrence, a more well-known actor.
SGG
This strikes me as a narrow point of view.
All of the Mary Elizabeth films I mentioned above are 2011 or prior, and few would argue that Jennifer Lawrence was as well known prior to 2012 with the release of Hunger Games.
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