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Syria

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Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:39 PM

Just a placeholder for news about Syria outside of KPO's narrow-focused thread.

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Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:03 PM

NATO praises the accuracy of Russian airstrikes

From the German http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/nato-geheimpapier-russland-ist-nat
o-kraeften-in-syrien-ueberlegen_id_5336051.html


google translated

Since September, the Russian Air Force is flying attacks in Syria. Here is denounced repeatedly that Putin bombers kill hundreds of civilians. Ironically, however, NATO praises Russia: is the use "accurately and efficiently," it says - and would have a much greater effect than the use of the NATO fleet.

The North Atlantic military alliance NATO, the Russian Air Force deployed in Syria certifies a high level of professionalism. This was reported by the news magazine FOCUS, citing a confidential NATO analysis from Brussels.

Although the combat aircraft of the Russian armed forces are clearly inferior to the Jets of the Western alliance numerically, the Kremlin pilots achieved in operations against the terrorist network IS and other rebel groups in total a greater impact. This was due to the higher frequency of Russian air raids, FOCUS quoted from the secret document.

Accordingly, around 40 stationed at Latakia Russian fighter jets flew last up to 75 inserts per day. The air strikes were "accurately and efficiently". The NATO fleet with a total of 180 machines seized daily at only 20 targets on the ground. President Vladimir Putin, Supreme Commander of the Russian forces want to use in the near future up to 140 fighters in Syria. Recently he had been embarrassed Su-35 to Latakia four hochmodernde machines type Sukhoi. The Su-35 is superior to most airmen from western production according to experts.

IS has set a show of force on the ground

According to NATO so far were only 20 percent of Russian attacks of the terrorist IS militia. The other attacks were directed against anti-Assad militias, some of which are supported by the West. The strong presence of the fighters has meant that there are no major movements of the insurgents more on the ground for weeks. In particular, the terror militia IS, the long vehicle convoys drove to propaganda through occupied territories, now waived for fear of air raids on their power demonstrations.

When targeting the Kremlin pilots engage loud FOCUS back on the Syrian aerial reconnaissance. In addition, Russian special forces and spies labeled strategically important facilities on site. About the people killed in the attacks of Allied and Russian Air Force civilians there is no information in the secret document. According to information from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights more than 1,700 civilians since September 2015 came solely with Russian air strikes killed, including 423 children.

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Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:12 PM

Syria conflict: Truce 'boosts peace talks', leaders agree

Quote:

The truce broadly holding in Syria will create momentum behind peace talks, major European powers say.

The leaders of Russia, Germany, France, Italy and the UK had a telephone conversation on Friday after which they agreed to use the "positive dynamic", said the office of UK PM David Cameron.

EU countries asked Russia to exert influence over Syria's government to respect the truce, Germany said.

Scattered attacks have not threatened the truce, which began last Saturday.

However, both the opposition and the government have accused each other of violating the cessation of hostilities agreement brokered by the US and Russia.

The truce does not include the jihadist groups Islamic State (IS) and al-Nusra Front.

Taking advantage of the lull, thousands of protesters across Syria took to the streets for some of the most widespread rallies in years.

Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for President Bashar al-Assad to step down.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35727667


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Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:54 AM

Forget about Syria for a minute, WHAT IS GOING ON IN TURKEY??

http://qz.com/632072/turkeys-biggest-newspaper-has-been-taken-over-by-
the-state-without-an-explanation
/

Turkey is the only thing between Russia and Syria, and taking over a state paper? Sounds like Putin putting his two cents in don't it???


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Sunday, March 6, 2016 6:33 AM

Turkey's newspaper was taken over by the Turkish government, not by Russia.

As per your link:

Turkey’s most widely-read newspaper, Zaman, printed one final Saturday edition before their offices were raided by state police.

On Friday, a Turkish court ruled that state administrators should run the newspaper. There was no explanation for the decision, according to the BBC.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, March 6, 2016 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Turkey's newspaper was taken over by the Turkish government, not by Russia.






Yes, I know, but there has to be a link. Just don't know what it is yet. Give it a month or two...

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Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:32 AM

I'll bet you $1000 theoretical internet-pride dollars that by April 30, 2016 you'll find no evidence that Russia had anything to do with it.

You on?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, March 6, 2016 11:15 AM

Are you that desperate to prove me wrong?

Oh yeah, you are...that's why you stalk everything I say with that pious act.



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Sunday, March 6, 2016 12:49 PM

If you've been following the happenings in Turkey (which you haven't) you'd know that Erdogan's control over Turkey and his grand master plan for reconstituting the Ottoman Empire (look it up, it's pre-WWI) are falling apart. Originally, Erdogan tried to join the EU, but altho the European nations were willing (and eager) to have Turkey join NATO (as a bulwark against you-know-who) they dangled him over EU membership forever. Finally, about eight years ago, he decided to turn east- to Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Sunni mideast leadership specifically - for support, and took a decidedly Muslim turn. At least 75 planeloads of weapons were transhipped across Turkey from Saudi Arabia and Qatar to jihadists in Libya, and back again from Libya thru Turkey to Syria. Turkey has been supporting ISIL in Syria as part of the Sunni master plan to depose Assad. In addition, having brokered a cease-fire with the Kurds in SE Turkey, Erdogan broke it unilaterally and is now fighting the Turkish Kurds with tanks and troops in his own nation. He has been putting down demonstrations using water cannons, tear gas a rubber bullets. He's done a lot of other shit that if I wrote it, you wouldn't believe.

The paper that was taken over BY ERDOGAN'S GOVERNMENT was often critical of Erdogan. That was the reason for the government takeover. Thinking that Russia had anything to do with it is either ignorance, prejudice, or lunacy. Erdogan doesn't need Putin's help in self-destructing, he's doing that all on his own pretty well.

But yanno? There's a lot happening in Turkey, and it deserves a thread of its own, not dangling off the ass-end of a thread on Syria. And that is exactly where this is going!

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Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:19 PM

Here is a scattering of headlines from a USA-supported pro-"rebel" website in Jordan.

Crowds condemn deadly rebel [extremist?] infighting, sniping that has killed 60 residents in 3 months

Quote:

One of the protest’s organizers, local religious leader Sheikh Isa a-Seyyed, gave warring factions Jaish al-Islam and Tahrir a-Sham until Friday to remove snipers from the roofs of buildings and clear away earthen berns constructed inside the city, promising that if their demands were not met, residents would take to the streets and “clean the city” of the military installations.

The infighting between Jaish al-Islam and Tahrir a-Sham, both of which have a notable military presence in the city, arises from the former’s accusations that Tahrir a-Sham has pledged allegiance to the Islamic State (IS). Tahrir a-Sham claimed in a February statement that it was the enemy of the Islamic State, calling it by its derogatory Arabic acronym, Daesh, in the same announcement.


http://syriadirect.org/news/crowds-condemn-deadly-rebel-infighting-sni
ping-that-has-killed-60-residents-in-3-months
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As an aside, apparently Jaish al-Islam just days ago has agreed to peace talks with Assad. So likely Tahrir a-Sham really IS affiliated with ISIL. And Jaish al-Islam ... maybe al Qiada-affilated?

One million people in Aleppo without power for four months
Quote:

The Jabhat a-Nusra-led General Management of Services (GMS), which works to maintain and repair water, electricity and services in and around Aleppo, announced on Sunday that its workers successfully repaired the 230 kilovolt power line, promising “the expected return of electricity within two days” to “all Aleppo city and the western countryside.”

http://syriadirect.org/news/one-million-people-in-aleppo-without-power
-for-four-months
/

In this article, al Nusra (al Qaida, freely quoted in a USA-supported website) blames "the regime" for everything. What they fail to mention is that, until about three weeks ago, the actual power plant was in the hands of extremists ("rebels"). Another point to get out of the article is that al-Nusra (al Qaida) really is in Aleppo, despite KPO's frequent protestations that these are all just innocent pro-democracy civilians being targeted by Assad for no good reason.





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