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1KIKI

Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:43 AM

Preserved to prevent deletion by a "genius".

Originally posted by THGRRI:
And you can give up trying suggest by quoting invasion you meant it was not. Most everyone else here can read and see right through that bullshit.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

1KIKI

Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:43 AM

Preserved to prevent deletion by a "genius".

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
And you can give up trying suggest by quoting invasion you meant it was not. Most everyone else here can read and see right through that bullshit.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

THGRRI

Sunday, December 27, 2015 8:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Preserved to prevent deletion by a "genius".

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
And you can give up trying suggest by quoting invasion you meant it was not. Most everyone else here can read and see right through that bullshit.

I'm not the one who starts correcting peoples English when I get caught in a contradiction and then a lie. I leave that to you two. I just take the opportunity when you try and deflect that way to show you guys make more mistakes than most.

Its really pathetic to point out that someone misspelled a word or made a grammatical error. It's very petty and of no importance. So there's another thing I dislike about you two. Because you're petty you're pathetic.

SIGNYM

Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:04 PM

There is a difference between

THUGR is a genius., and

THUGR is a "genius".

Can you detect the difference? If not, I suggest you go to a remedial English class.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There is a difference between

THUGR is a genius., and

THUGR is a "genius".

Can you detect the difference? If not, I suggest you go to a remedial English class.

Why don't you just post a grammatical definition or something that shows us that in accordance with the productive rules of grammar, by putting a word in quotes it now means the opposite.

SIGNYM

Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:06 PM

Turkey’s Kurdish Cities Become War Zones

http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkeys-kurdish-cities-become-war-zones-14
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

There is a difference between THUGR is a genius., and THUGR is a "genius". And everyone knows it except THUGR, who is a "genius".

SIGNYM

Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:13 PM

FINANCIAL TIMES Dec 23

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7939dd5a-a894-11e5-955c-1e1d6de94879.html#ix
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The Turkish military has found a new adversary as it has battled its way into city centres over the past few days: Kurdish teenagers and disaffected youths.

More than 100 people have died in less than a week of urban warfare — one of the most disturbing flare-ups in the country’s decades-long Kurdish conflict. The Turkish state, which has sought to keep a lid on media coverage of the offensive, faces the possible public relations nightmare of a bloody crackdown on baby-faced rebels.

But the significance of the generational shift goes much further: the youths’ appearance on the front lines could further whittle down already dwindling hopes of peace.

For much of the past three decades, the conflict has largely been concentrated around remote mountain ranges. Typically fighters from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers party (or PKK) placed bombs on winding roads used by military convoys, staged attacks on local guards or were hit in their own redoubts by government forces.

The current battle, in the hearts of southeastern cities such as Diyarbakir or Cizre, is not only bloodier and more intense because of the nature of urban warfare, it is also against a more shadowy and decidedly more youthful foe.

“The initial concern of the Turkish government is to stop any sort of armed rebellion inside the towns,” said Ilter Turan, a professor of politics at Bilgi University in Istanbul. “The larger issue is that there is a pervasive, even contagious, sentiment amongst these younger people.”

The modus operandi of the young militants, who since the summer have assassinated local policemen and declared autonomous zones in big southeastern cities, is different from that of the more established PKK. The older militants claim they do not control the young fighters, whose command structure is far from clear.

“It’s a completely new situation, this new sort of urban, localised conflict between the militants and the armed forces — and the ambiguity of where it leads to is very dangerous,” said Fuat Keyman, an expert at the Istanbul Policy Centre, who was involved in recent abortive peace talks.

The stakes are extraordinarily high — almost 40,000 people have died in the Kurdish conflict since the mid-1980s and around a fifth of the country’s 77m population is of Kurdish ethnicity.

The battle for greater Kurdish rights has also been recently inflamed by turmoil in the Middle East — the region’s Kurds are split between Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran — and specifically the Syrian civil war, where many young Turkish Kurds have rallied to their brethren’s battle against the jihadis of Isis.

For years Kurdish politicians have warned that the youths growing up in the highlands of the south-east and the rundown hinterlands of Turkey’s biggest cities will be more radicalised by the generation before them. Such politicians add that the prospects of a deal settling the Kurds’ demands for greater self-rule will be correspondingly less.

Now those same Kurdish politicians are virtually marginalised by both sides — by young militants inspired by the battle in Syria and by a government that no longer talks to them, in large part because of the attacks mounted by the radicalised youths.

Indeed while the military operation is described by Turkish officials as a precursor to negotiations, it is increasingly unclear who exactly the Turkish authorities expect to negotiate with.

The contrast is stark with previous years’ talks with Abdullah Ocalan, the PKK’s imprisoned leader, which ensured an uneasy ceasefire for roughly two and a half years until the conflict reignited around July this year.

Today, the battle with the young militants, who call themselves the Patriotic Revolutionary Group Movement and have gradually emerged over the past two years, has taken violence to levels not seen since Mr Ocalan was captured in 1999.

In cities like Diyarbakir and Cizre, the Turkish military is fighting with the youths street by

THGRRI

Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:28 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

And now, even the USA and it's other "coalition partners" refuse to fly over Syria. Why do you suppose that is?

So the only fighter jets flying over Syria now are Russian. One more sign of Sigs delusion.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60254&mid=10061
33#1006133

1KIKI

Tuesday, December 29, 2015 6:40 AM

THGR:
So the only fighter jets flying over Syria now are Russian. One more sign of Sigs delusion.

Signy didn't make any comments about non-Russian jets flying over Syria in this thread. Are you referring to this?

Signy:
The target of that raid, the first of its kind since US jets returned to the skies over Iraq ...

You DO know the difference between Iraq and Syria - right?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

THGRRI

Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

Quote:
...SIG

And now, even the USA and it's other "coalition partners" refuse to fly over Syria. Why do you suppose that is?

Quote:
...1KIKI
Signy didn't make any comments about non-Russian jets flying over Syria in this thread. Are you referring to this?

Signy:
The target of that raid, the first of its kind since US jets returned to the skies over

1KIKI
You DO know the difference between Iraq and Syria - right?

It's a direct quote with a link provided. Here's the who paragraph.

...SIG

Not only are Russian planes flying the same zone, there are no "rebels" left alive down there to shoot at pilots as they drift down on parachutes. Turks now no longer even violate Greek airspace (which they did with impunity before) let alone Syrian airspace. And now, even the USA and it's other "coalition partners" refuse to fly over Syria. Why do you suppose that is?

After the Russian plane was shot down apparently Russia killed every rebel in that area (got them all) and through sheer intimidation chased the rest of the world out of Syrian air space.

Oops, there are those pesky quotes again "rebels". So SIG, this means you are saying there are rebels left down there?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60254&mid=10061
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