Hear Joss Whedon Call (if you missed it)

POSTED BY: BONNIET
UPDATED: Monday, November 1, 2004 20:39
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PHYSCHICK

Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:03 PM

I'm with Zoid. Not that I mind the political stuff (I just don't usually read it), but that this guy isn't neccessarily a real Browncoat. Why?

He (she?) said:

Quote:
Due to U.S. campaign laws, only U.S. citizens and green-card holder residents in the U.S. are eligible.

Now, I'm Canadian. I'd love to hear Joss's two cents (and Amy's, and Denis's, and Nathan's, though I will wonder whether he has taken American citizenship) and it grates that there is no way I will be able to, simply because of where I was born.

In the past, I've made things available to other Browncoats through BitTorrent - things that a lot of Browncoats wanted to see or hear. It was made available to EVERYONE. Why? Because I knew there were people out there who simply had bad luck in not being able to catch things first hand (ComicCon clips, the unaired episodes). I have always encouraged people to show their support for Joss through the (future) purchase of DVDs or movie tickets.

Now I understand that U.S. election laws prevent me from donating to any political party down there, but there is no reason why Bonniet couldn't simply share the audio of the phone call as an mp3 and encourage us, if allowed, to donate to the Democratic party.

I think that's the way a real Browncoat would've done it.

SUCCATASH

Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhysChick:
but that this guy isn't neccessarily a real Browncoat....

... there is no reason why Bonniet couldn't simply share the audio of the phone call as an mp3 and encourage us, if allowed, to donate to the Democratic party.

I think that's the way a real Browncoat would've done it.

Let me get this straight. Joss Whedon "sells" himself and his TV shows for a democratic party fundraiser. Bonniet spreads the word and is accused of not being a Browncoat?

That seems really harsh.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

GWENHARKER

Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:28 PM

Sorry, but I don't think its fair that you can only hear Joss' comments if you have to donate to a party you don't believe in.

EMBERS

Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:06 PM

the only reason Joss did the call was as a fundraiser...
there wasn't any other purpose, it was never meant to be anything else...
except a political fundraising event.

in this Zoid's position is correct: all mention of the event (and the donations) belong in the Real World section because it really wasn't a 'fan' event as such.

Probably after the election there will be audio tapes around for free, frankly I'm a little surprised there aren't any already (I'm sure a lot of people who were on the call recorded it), but I did listen to it...and actually most of the questions were either political or answered with a political spin to it....

I took some notes on the more non-political aspects :
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=7574
(fairly far down in the thread...)

Note: you'll find that even trying to avoid the most political of the questions/answered there is still a very partisan tone to the notes I took, fact is if you hate to hear an opposing political view then you don't want to listen to Joss' conference call, because it is 100% partisan.
It was his free time he gave to support his candidate, no one was forced to listen....

SIMONF

Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:18 PM

I'm hoping, after the election, an official transcript will be published.

Maybe next time, they can get a webcast going.

JUKO

Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:19 AM

Umm. I'm kinda Canadian, so dropping $25 for an American polital campaign seems a little... stupid? While Kerry's foreign policy isn't quite so bad as Bush's (did you HEAR what he said about Canadian medicine? Apparently we're a third world country out to poison and kill hapless Americans with our cheapo medicine) he's likely going to be a distancing effect from Canada, and I don't feel inclined to financially support a candidate like that, regardless of the perks.
But he is better than Bush... so go Kerry. Or get a better third party.

Does Blue Sun sponser the Blue Man Group?

NAKEDANDARTICULATE

Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:41 PM

zoid,your mouth is moving you might want to look into that.

"Hamsters is nice."

BONNIET

Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
Bonniet:

Have you ever even seen Firefly? Or are you just a shill for your Mother Party, preying upon our website? It appears the only things you've posted have been (paid?) political advertisements. At the very least, do you promise to go away by Tuesday evening?

Dude, I've been a member of this place for a while. I've been a fan of Firefly since it started. I've been a member of the official Firefly board, where I usually hang out, for nearly two years. I don't hang out here a lot (though I do lurk a lot) because it has proven itself to be not the easiest place for people used to the OB to navigate. Not to mention its overwhelming "friendliness".

When I have news about Joss Whedon directly from the organizers of the event, I would say it is important for all fans to hear about it, wouldn't you say? Especially when he talks about Serenity, as he did in the call. Especially when it's JOSS WHEDON. So I'd say my information about a Joss Whedon event is relevant and important, dong ma?

I don't think you've added much to this event, and it's clear you don't want to participate, so why not just hang up your anger somewhere and let me still encourage people to hear JOSS WHEDON's phone call. He's not asking everyone to like his politics. Certainly not Republicans. But this is Joss, and even many Republicans have enjoyed hearing his phone call, for a small donation.

It's up to you.

There is still time to hear the call. You don't have to like Joss's politics to enjoy it and get a lot of information from it. For more information on how to still HEAR THE CALL, please visit:

www.highstakes2004.com

I thank you, Joss thanks you, and yes even Kerry thanks you.

"I can't keep track of her when she's not
incorporeally possessing a space ship.
Don't look at me."

BONNIET

Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
the only reason Joss did the call was as a fundraiser...
there wasn't any other purpose, it was never meant to be anything else...
except a political fundraising event.

in this Zoid's position is correct: all mention of the event (and the donations) belong in the Real World section because it really wasn't a 'fan' event as such.

I see your point but I disagree. Joss Whedon said many things (like about X-Men 3) in this call that were not strictly political.

I wouldn't have cared to hear this phone call at all if I hadn't been a fan of Joss Whedon's. Who wants to hear some guy on the phone talk about politics and his projects? Not me, unless it's JOSS. So, this was for his fans. It wasn't for the world at large who doesn't care who he is. Therefore, it was a fan event. Many fans that were not Democrats have already participated. Yes, it was and still is a fan event, though not strictly 100% *just* a fan event. The main event was a large Hollywood party filled with, you guessed it . . . fans of Joss.

Joss was not originally planning to show up at the party. He only showed up because of the fan response. That is also why Nathan Fillion showed up, and presumably the other actors too. FOR THE FANS, guys. Please be aware they were very happy at the response for this thing.

(And Nathan is Canadian - he couldn't even donate.)

So if you still want to hear it, make sure you get a move on, because this expires Tuesday.

"I can't keep track of her when she's not
incorporeally possessing a space ship.
Don't look at me."

SHADESIREN

Monday, November 1, 2004 12:19 AM

It just sounds like this guy is holding Joss's phone call hostage in John Kerry's name.

Now, I'm poor - I can't afford to donate $5 to his campaign. So in this situation, I'm being penalized for being poor.

I don't see any real reason not to find this whole thing offensive in general. To Me, to poor people, AND to John Kerry, who I already support whole heartedly, and feel will appreciate my vote a whole hell of a lot more than my $25.

Just my 2 cents worth, which is about all I can spare anyway :P

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