Escaped Syrian ISIS women tell their stories
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Your quotes are from the NYTimes of course, the same outlet of Judith Miller and centrifuges under rosebushes fame.
Thanks for NOT providing a link so we all could check out the article easily and look at the statements in context. Here it is, as a courtesy you failed to provide. You're welcome. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/world/middleeast/isis-wives-and-enfo
rcers-in-syria-recount-collaboration-anguish-and-escape.html
Kiki, you dimwit, you've just reposted the link from the OP of this thread. You have no idea what the subject of the thread is, and no idea what points I was debating with Siggy, yet you still jump in spouting nonsense, insults and false accusations?
Oh well. For what do we live but to make sport for our neighbours, and laugh at them in our turn?
It's not personal. It's just war.
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You wish!! International slave trade thrived until nearly 1900. (British/ Chinese)
Huh? Cites please.
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Your view of slavery is limited.
And yours is highly questionable.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
International slave trade thrived until nearly 1900.
Is still happening today
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/shocking-isis-official-slave-price-list-shows
-yazidi-christian-girls-aged-1-9-being-sold-613160
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_21st-century_Islamism
http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/muslim-slave-buyers-that-one-has-big-b
reasts-but-i-want-blue-eyes-and-pale-skin-i-am-willing-to-pay.html/
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21661812-islamic-states-re
vival-slavery-extreme-though-it-finds-disquieting-echoes-across
http://europe.newsweek.com/isis-release-questions-and-answers-pamphlet
-how-treat-female-slaves-290511
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Very little of the USA-official narrative of "Assad created ISIL" fits into this story. I mean, Where are Assad's barrel bombs? Where is this Syrian-based ISIL, and its burning desire for revenge against Assad?- SIGNY
"When the uprising against the government of President Bashar al-Assad began rippling across Syria in 2011, it seemed distant from Raqqa. As news of fighting and massacres started filtering in..."
"Abu Soheil had killed himself in an operation not against the hated Syrian Army, but against a competing rebel group that the Islamic State was trying to wipe out. “I cried for days,” she said. “He died fighting other Muslims.”"
"Mr. Assad’s forces were targeting civilians, sweeping into homes in the middle of the night and brutalizing men in front of their wives; the fighters had no choice but to respond with equal brutality, they said."
Yes, I saw that. But the terrible forces of President Assad always seem to be what someone talks about, not what anyone has actually experienced. I think this deserves a detailed discussion:
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"When the uprising against the government of President Bashar al-Assad began rippling across Syria in 2011, it seemed distant from Raqqa."
Apparently, it WAS distant from Raqqa because none of it happened in Raqqa or to anyone from Raqqa. None of the girls' family members nor any of their friends seemed to be involved in the slightest .... at least, not mentioned here, altho ONE boyfriend evidently began turning towards a more conservative Sunni fundamentalism . Did the article happen to mention that one of the complaints in Sunni-Syria was that they felt that Shia were "taking over" in terms of mosque-building and contracts?
Quote:Again, apparently distant and third-hand. It might not have been "news", it might have been more like rumors. Or stories. Or propaganda, since none of it was traceable to anyone with first-hand knowledge and given the general prejudice against Shia. And by then, who knows who was in control of "the news"?
As news of fighting and massacres started filtering in..."
Quote:You can build up hatred of a particular group ... hatred enough to go to war ... for no reason whatsoever. Heck, we hated Saddam enough to spend over a trillion dollars and kill a million people, and what did Saddam ever do to US? Just because someone is "hated" doesn't mean there's a real reason for it. ISIL for sure hated the Syrian Army, and they could have whipped up a pretty good froth against Assad in Raqqa, since Sunnis in general were prejudiced against him (Alawite).
"Abu Soheil had killed himself in an operation not against the hated Syrian Army,
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"Mr. Assad’s forces were targeting civilians, sweeping into homes in the middle of the night and brutalizing men in front of their wives; the fighters had no choice but to respond with equal brutality, they said."
And this is quoting ISIL. You think they're a reliable source? They have every reason to paint Assad in the worst possible colors in order to- as the article itself says- justify their own brutality.
All of this is pretty weak tea. We also should take a closer look at these so-called "moderate rebels" because what I've read is that their REAL goal is pretty much in line with ISIL- to create a Sunni theocracy in Syria. On the anti-Assad side, the dispute seems to be between homegrown Syrian theocrats and the imported kind.
Almost everything that the west says about Assad and Russia seems to be fabricated or distorted.
Assad killed 200,000 of his people! Well, no ... 200,000 people were killed, but over half of those were fighting forces, and half of THOSE were the Syrian Army.
Assad gassed his own people with Sarin! Well, no ... it was eventually shown to be a false flag operation by the jihadists themselves.
The
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kiki- your view of slavery is limited.
kpo - And yours is highly questionable.
THANK YOU for falling into my trap! I hope you realize by now that I ALWAYS research my posts.
So, let me make some more claims that I hope you dispute, because, yeah, I like to make you look stupid. The US was NOT the biggest global slave trader, Britain was by far. And it started earlier, and went longer than anyone else in modern times. In fact, in a mere 10 years in the 1600's, Britain sold 300,000 Irish slaves to the new world. (At the same time the British outright killed 500,000 Irish, and along with general imposed economic distress, dropped the Irish population from about 1,500,000 to 600,000, or about 90,000 per year.) Britain didn't practice (much) slavery on home soil. Nope. It exported it everywhere else it went. Please! dispute any of this. Demand links! Question my information about slavery! Snark some more!!! Be topic free and 100% personal. Do what you do best.
Make my day.
So, that link you wanted?
Here it is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolie
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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THANK YOU for falling into my trap!
You really need this don't you? Aww kiki, a part of me is really rooting for you.
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I hope you realize by now that I ALWAYS research my posts.
Except that one just earlier, where you didn't even research what the subject matter of the thread was.
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So, let me make some more claims
Why don't you start by backing up your first one - particularly the bit about the 'thriving' British slave trade until nearly 1900...?
It's not personal. It's just war.
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You have the link? You can read? Do you need anything else?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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How about specific quotes/data that, you know, actually back up your claim.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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kpo wanted a link. He got a link. NOW he's decided he wants something different before he addresses the topic. So, speaking of shifting the goals posts -
- on to the OTHER claims he's trying to barricade himself against addressing (by making different demands):
The US was NOT the biggest global slave trader, Britain was by far. And it started earlier, and went longer than anyone else in modern times. In fact, in a mere 10 years in the 1600's, Britain sold 300,000 Irish slaves to the new world. (At the same time the British outright killed 500,000 Irish, and along with general imposed economic distress, dropped the Irish population from about 1,500,000 to 600,000, or about 90,000 per year.) Britain didn't practice (much) slavery on home soil. Nope. It exported it everywhere else it went. Please! dispute any of this. Demand links! Question my information about slavery! Snark some more!!! Be topic free and 100% personal. Do what you do best.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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kpo wanted a link. He got a link. NOW he's decided he wants something different before he addresses the topic. So, speaking of shifting the goals posts -
LOL. Ok you can't back up your claim, that's all I needed to know. It seems my calling your 'knowledge' questionable was justified.
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on to the OTHER claims he's trying to barricade himself against
Actually I make a habit of ignoring people when they fly off at tangents. It's usually because they're trying to deflect away from some point where they're wrong...It's not personal. It's just war.
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