Escaped Syrian ISIS women tell their stories
POSTED BY: kpo
UPDATED: Monday, June 8, 2026 20:44
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A long, but thoroughly insightful read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/world/middleeast/isis-wives-and-enfo
rcers-in-syria-recount-collaboration-anguish-and-escape.html?_r=0
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Good story. As time goes by there are more and more of complaints from ISIS members coming out. There was a story I read concerning the displeasure of some ISIS recruits about conditions where they are. Things like a lack of a good shampoo, and bad coffee. Sounds simple but complaints are complaints and they resonate with readers.
The backgrounds of many ISIS recruits are showing the other Muslims of the world that they are not followers of the Koran but instead street thugs who have dabbled in drugs. All this contributes to ISIS's downfall.
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Not sure if I beleive this hag, I know some of what she says can be true but wonder if these people can ever intergrate with the West or any nation. IMO She's damaged goods, still brainwashed by the extreme muslim islamo nonsense.
A team of criminal psychologists from across the world should asses and examine and get interviews from each and every one to see if they are 'escapes', 'refugees' they should be made drop a Koran, asked what they think of someone joking at Islam, made look at Mohammed cartoons....I think they are damaged personally but a team of criminal psychologists should look at them and examine if they will ever contribute to socity and see if they can be allowed live outside Syria
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm
Taqiyya and Kitman
Obama's regressive Liberalism is a failure, Germany Merkel's Christain Democrats, Christian Social Union, Julia Klöckner, Sweden’s Kent Ekeroth, Canada's forced multi-culturalism....its going down hill fast
...Patriots, Nationalists, the Right are on the rise...not because the rightwing is good and great but only because of Liberal idiocy
In sumary Merkel and Obama are fools
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
they are not followers of the Koran
No they are follower of that jihadi islamist book the Koran, read the Quran or read translations of it or listen to Ex-muslims
they follow it to the letter
tell me why does the Leftwing kiss the anus of the islamist terrorist and swallow their lies and then vomit it back out as propaganda in the West?
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So, this is what I learned:
Very little of the USA-official narrative of "Assad created ISIL" fits into this story. I mean, Where are Assad's barrel bombs? Where is this Syrian-based ISIL, and its burning desire for revenge against Assad?
No, the story plays out almost exactly as I read in a MUCH more realistic coverage elsewhere: Documents recovered when a major ISIL figure (Haji Bakr, true name Samir Abd Muhammad al-Khlifawi) was killed, which detail how ISIL foreigners gradually took control of Syria: ISIL implants would spy on a city or town, identify its major families (those with influence, or resources). They would find evidence of crimes or corruption, and threaten to expose the patriarch or sons unless certain concessions were made- among them, marrying off their daughters to foreign ISIL fighters and making these foreigners "part of the family", able to access family assets.
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This blueprint was implemented with astonishing accuracy in the ensuing months. The plan would always begin with the same detail: The group recruited followers under the pretense of opening a Dawah office, an Islamic missionary center. Of those who came to listen to lectures and attend courses on Islamic life, one or two men were selected and instructed to spy on their village and obtain a wide range of information. To that end, Haji Bakr compiled lists such as the following:
List the powerful families.
Name the powerful individuals in these families.
Find out their sources of income.
Name names and the sizes of (rebel) brigades in the village.
Find out the names of their leaders, who controls the brigades and their political orientation.
Find out their illegal activities (according to Sharia law), which could be used to blackmail them if necessary.
The spies were told to note such details as whether someone was a criminal or a homosexual, or was involved in a secret affair, so as to have ammunition for blackmailing later. "We will appoint the smartest ones as Sharia sheiks," Bakr had noted. "We will train them for a while and then dispatch them." As a postscript, he had added that several "brothers" would be selected in each town to marry the daughters of the most influential families, in order to "ensure penetration of these families without their knowledge."
The spies were to find out as much as possible about the target towns: Who lived there, who was in charge, which families were religious, which Islamic school of religious jurisprudence they belonged to, how many mosques there were, who the imam was, how many wives and children he had and how old they were. Other details included what the imam's sermons were like, whether he was more open to the Sufi, or mystical variant of Islam, whether he sided with the opposition or the regime, and what his position was on jihad. Bakr also wanted answers to questions like: Does the imam earn a salary? If so, who pays it? Who appoints him? Finally: How many people in the village are champions of democracy?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/islamic-state-files-show-str
ucture-of-islamist-terror-group-a-1029274.html
So the next time you hear John McCain choking on his spit about "Assad's" creation of ISIL, please remember that you're listening to a man so twisted by rage that there is nothing he wouldn't say and no ally too heinous that he won't use to satisfy his warmongering desires. (And the next time you see Hillary sidling somewhere near McCain, just note that she's just doing what she's always done best: Triangulating.)
The number of foreign fighters is truly astounding. Look at who these young women get married to: A Saudi (a wealthy one at that), an Iraqi, an Egyptian. Women from Britain and Tunisia and Saudi Arabia and France were within their own morality brigade. This isn't so much a homegrown revolution but a foreign takeover.
In post WWII Europe, these women would be accused of "
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Not sure if I beleive this hag, I know some of what she says can be true but wonder if these people can ever intergrate with the West or any nation. IMO She's damaged goods, still brainwashed by the extreme muslim islamo nonsense.
A team of criminal psychologists from across the world should asses and examine and get interviews from each and every one to see if they are 'escapes', 'refugees' they should be made drop a Koran, asked what they think of someone joking at Islam, made look at Mohammed cartoons....I think they are damaged personally but a team of criminal psychologists should look at them and examine if they will ever contribute to socity and see if they can be allowed live outside Syria
Obama's regressive Liberalism is a failure, Germany Merkel's Christain Democrats, Christian Social Union, Julia Klöckner, Sweden’s Kent Ekeroth, Canada's forced multi-culturalism....its going down hill fast
...Patriots, Nationalists, the Right are on the rise...not because the rightwing is good and great but only because of Liberal idiocy
In sumary Merkel and Obama are fools
The last thing the world should do is take the advice from an ill-informed obsessed bigot. Just to show your ignorance on the subject without going into to much detail, visa's are the best way for DAESH to enter the country, not as refugees. It's much easier for them to get in that way.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
ill-informed
I've a good feeling I'm far more intelligent than you, unless you count Miley cyrus iphones and pop culture as intelligence
ok say what you want
you can say I'm from any place any island if that is your wish
I'm not a native Englsih speaker ...but I've a good feeling I'm smarter than you
in physics, science, in languages, smarter in math, in art, in chemistry, music...I have a feeling I would beat you in anything kid
You wanna be so concerned for muslims you're willing to help them all and maybe put the United States of America at risk? By brining in tens of thousands and possibly jeopardize the safety of American children and women and putting at risk the safety of Arab atheists and christains and muslim apostates who fled from Iraq by bringing in more wacko muslims....tell you what I got a better idea....if you feel that strong about it that you would rather put your own fellow Americans at risk maybe you should give up America for a while...I'll tell you what - maybe you should sign up with some U.N charity, sign up with the red cross, or sign up with some leftist liberalism charity group and go over there to help them in some Turkey, Israel, Jordan camp....maybe you should go over there yourself and help them if you would rather help them than help your fellow American!
and btw your such an assclown you don't even know what your debating against I'm not this mississippi conservative redneck cartoon character you try make me be, what if I told you I wasnt even 'white' your brain has been so taken by tv religion of regressive liberalism you don't even know what you argue against
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
bigot
Ok I'll play 'bigot', are you not a gelding yet? if not i think you should Hurry up and get the sex change operation you've saved for
you're free to quote me on that anytime
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JAYNZTOWN
I've a good feeling I'm far more intelligent than you, unless you count Miley cyrus iphones and pop culture as intelligence
Me
JAYNZTOWN
I'm not a native Englsih speaker but I've a good feeling I'm smarter than you
in physics, science, in languages, smarter in math, in art, in chemistry, music...I have a feeling I would beat you in anything kid
Me Can you say borderline personality?
JAYNZTOWN
You wanna be so concerned for muslims you're willing to help them all and maybe put the United States of America at risk? By brining in tens of thousands and possibly jeopardize the safety of American children and women and putting at risk the safety of Arab atheists and christains and muslim apostates who fled from Iraq by bringing in more wacko muslims....tell you what I got a better idea....if you feel that strong about it that you would rather put your own fellow Americans at risk maybe you should give up America for a while...I'll tell you what - maybe you should sign up with some U.N charity, sign up with the red cross, or sign up with some leftist liberalism charity group and go over there to help them in some Turkey, Israel, Jordan camp....maybe you should go over there yourself and help them if you would rather help them than help your fellow American!
Me
I am surprised because as you claim, you are smarter than I that you would realize my primary concern is not the Muslim population. And Instead that I am defending my countries constitution and bill of rights. People like you are always trying to destroy the concept of tolerance and inclusion.
JAYNZTOWN
and btw your such an assclown you don't even know what your debating against I'm not this mississippi conservative redneck cartoon character you try make me be, what if I told you I wasnt even 'white' your brain has been so taken by tv religion of regressive liberalism you don't even know what
you argue against
Me
You don’t have to be white to be exactly what you claim not to be. If you were half as intelligent as you claim to be you would know this. You are exactly what you claim not to be and definitely not who you think you are.
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Quote:Tell me, where in the Constitution and Bill of Rights does it specify the right of immigration?
And Instead that I am defending my countries constitution and bill of rights. People like you are always trying to destroy the concept of tolerance and inclusion.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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SIG
Tell me, where in the Constitution and Bill of Rights does it specify the right of immigration?
My response
Bill of rights section 9: The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
The Bill of rights unmistakably state here that the congress does not have the right to stop immigration by its own authority. Clearly what many like you and JAYNZTOWN are calling for.
The great diversity of this nation was also a formidable obstacle to unity. The people who were empowered by the Constitution to elect and control their central government were of widely differing origins, beliefs and interests. Most had come from England, but Sweden, Norway, France, Holland, Prussia, Poland and many other countries also sent immigrants to the New World. Their religious beliefs were varied and in most cases strongly held. There were Anglicans, Roman Catholics, Calvinists, Huguenots, Lutherans, Quakers, Jews, agnostics and atheists. The backbone of the country was the middle class -- farmers, tradesmen, mechanics, sailors, shipwrights, weavers, carpenters and a host of others. To now chastise all Muslims based on a dismal percentile of the Muslim population who are extreme is an attack on diversity, tolerance and inclusion based on fear and hate.
Most of the rights enshrined in the Constitution of the United States are based in ideas of natural law, or the principle that in a state of nature, without government interference, man naturally engages in certain activities, and that government should not be permitted to interfere with this. For example, man naturally expresses his ideas and practices his religion. Are you following any of this SIG, or should I break it down further for you? In order for the constitution to function as designed it has to work for all equally.
We grew through inclusion SIG not exclusion. In the past two centuries, the diversity of the American people has increased, and yet the essential unity of the nation has grown stronger. From the original 13 states along the Atlantic seaboard, America spread westward across the entire continent. That's the premise SIG, for all to join in, in this Philosophy of diversity. And you guys are the ones fighting it.
Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, "A republic, if you can keep it." Everything JAYNZTOWN stands for today if implemented would destroy the values and premise this country is built on and the world is watching with bated breath.
Do you understand any of this SIG, or because your loyalties lie with Russia are you going to be dismissive as usual of what America is truly about, and continue to only point out were we fall short at times???
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Quote:That was in deference to the slave trade*, you nitwit, not immigration. And it'll be a cold day in hell when you get me to agree that it was the slave trade that made this nation great.
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight... The Bill of rights unmistakably state here that the congress does not have the right to stop immigration by its own authority. Clearly what many like you and JAYNZTOWN are calling for.
*You should have picked that up from the wording, because you don't "import" refugees.
Quote:Tell that to the natives who we exterminated and whose land we stole, and to women who were excluded from consideration during the founding of democracy, and to the black slaves whose descendants are still excluded to this day.
We grew through inclusion SIG not exclusion.
Quote:WHAT "unity"? If we had such unity, we would not need either the most militarized police in the world, nor would we need the highest incarceration rate in the world. You're living in some idealized fantasy.
and yet the essential unity of the nation has grown stronger.
Oh, and BTW- I read Rousseau's The Social Contract which influenced Jefferson, Franklin and others of the Enlightenment. Did you?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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