Why we need to chill and cut the Muslims some slack
POSTED BY: THGRRI
UPDATED: Monday, March 9, 2026 21:31
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I read the title and it seemed --- confused. "Why we need to chill and cut the Muslims some slack" Which Muslims? All Muslims? That's as biased as hating all Muslims. All Muslims except the radical ones? What about the Muslim countries of Indonesia and Malaysia, where government is officially based on a forceful practice of Islam? Maybe we should only cut domesticated Muslims some slack, Muslims in small enough numbers who are tame enough to not actually affect anyone else's way of life. Or maybe we need to just cut the Muslims some slack if they're nominally our allies, like Saudi Arabia and Turkey, no matter how much radical Islam violence and death they fund around the globe ...
I get your frustration with the endless blanket Muslim-basing.
OTOH an endless blanket Muslim whitewash that you seem to propose as an alternative, or some other mindless reaction, is just as pointless. Especially because you seem to be proposing it to silence discussion of particulars. - KIKI
I get your frustration with the endless blanket Muslim-basing.
I'll let JAYNEZTOWN explain it to you. - THUGR
Why??? I think you did an excellent job of explaining yourself already!
Quote:Followed by some guy's video who thinks we need to reach peace through better understanding otherwise we get into a death-spiral of "negativity".
"Why we need to chill and cut the Muslims some slack"
I got a little tired of seeing the haters post nothing but hate. I got tired of them spinning current events in such a way that suggests we overact to what is going on and creates as the gentlemen in the video describes as the death spiral of negativity.
Get a grip people. Watch the video it's 18 minutes, and give this guys views some consideration.
Yanno what??? We're ALREADY in a "death-spiral of negativity" with these radical jihadists. They've taken the part of the Q'uran that gives them license to murder, torture, and terrorize, and they're using it to justify their actions. IF you want to "understand" them, just watch their videos.
And I agree with WISH .... there are parts of almost EVERY religion that can be used to justify murdering "the other". In fact, you can have religious intolerance in even traditionally tolerant and inclusive religions, like the upswing in Hindu religiously-motivated killings.
We don't base our murderous ways on Xtianity anymore ... we tend to justify our killing with words like "freedom" and "democracy" and "right to protect". But except for the excuses that we use, we do the same, if not worse: all you have to do is COUNT THE BODIES. If you want to devise a system of ethics that makes sense, come up with one that applies to the USA as well as the jihadists.
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Sensible people are trying to put the brakes on and point out to those not sure of what is happening, that the haters are actively engaged on both sides and the way forward is in not joining them.
So, you disagree with what JANYZTOWN posted in 2004 then?
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Quote:The "context" that you're referring to is the VOICES IN YOUR HEAD. I say one thing, but you hear another. You react violently to what you THINK I'm saying, and impute all sorts of opinions, background etc to me that don't belong- to the point of assuming that I'm not American, that I must be a Russian troll! Speaking of being delusional ... Maybe if you stopped reacting to the VOICES IN YOUR HEAD you would be able to respond to what I'm actually writing. So far, you haven't managed!
Even in your above post SIG you are misrepresenting the context in which you posted your opinions.
Context; "The parts of a piece of writing, speech, etc, that precede and follow a word or passage and contribute to its full meaning." You post things where you say it doesn't make sense for someone to have done something yet you can't get the notion out of your head that they did. You do this to accuse, deflect, post subjectively, etc.
Misrepresent; distort, falsify, belie share the sense of presenting information in a way that does not accord with the truth. Misrepresent usually involves a deliberate intention to deceive.
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Quote:Yes, haters are actively engaged on both sides.
Sensible people are trying to put the brakes on and point out to those not sure of what is happening, that the haters are actively engaged on both sides and the way forward is in not joining them.
However, when a group is actively targeting you is not the time to stand up with a generic call for peace, because you lose credibility. People are quite naturally frightened. What you need to do is accurately identify who the group is that's targeting you, and then come up with a realistic plan for defense.
I noticed that when the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq came up, and the destruction of Libya, there were no such calls (from you) for cutting "the Muslims" some slack. Why is that? ( I have my opinion, but it's unkind and off-topic.) Because, if we had cut "the Muslims" some slack back then we would not be facing a monster now.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The "context" that you're referring to is the VOICES IN YOUR HEAD. I say one thing, but you hear another. You react violently to what you THINK I'm saying, and impute all sorts of opinions, background etc to me that don't belong- to the point of assuming that I'm not American, that I must be a Russian troll! Speaking of being delusional ... Maybe if you stopped reacting to the VOICES IN YOUR HEAD you would be able to respond to what I'm actually writing. So far, you haven't managed!
Even in your above post SIG you are misrepresenting the context in which you posted your opinions.
Context; "The parts of a piece of writing, speech, etc, that precede and follow a word or passage and contribute to its full meaning." You post things where you say it doesn't make sense for someone to have done something yet you can't get the notion out of your head that they did. You do this to accuse, deflect, post subjectively, etc.
Misrepresent; distort, falsify, belie share the sense of presenting information in a way that does not accord with the truth. Misrepresent usually involves a deliberate intention to deceive.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
My assertion wins out here over yours SIG because many here challenge you and what you post as being wrong headed. Only you and 1kiki would dispute this so trying to change your opinion is senseless.
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Quote:First of all, I'm not sure that truth is decided by agreement. A billion flies eat shit, but it's still shit. And as far as I can tell, the "many" is just you and GSTRING and KPO.
My assertion wins out here over yours SIG because many here challenge you and what you post as being wrong headed. Only you and 1kiki would dispute this so trying to change your opinion is senseless.
Secondly, you don't even KNOW what my opinion is! You keep reacting to things I haven't said. Stop the voices in your head, respond to WHAT I WRITE, not what you THINK I write or who you THINK I am. Stay on-topic. Stop the name-calling. Find evidence for your opinions. Be prepared to argue it logically. We'll get along a lot better that way!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yes, haters are actively engaged on both sides.
Sensible people are trying to put the brakes on and point out to those not sure of what is happening, that the haters are actively engaged on both sides and the way forward is in not joining them.
However, when a group is actively targeting you is not the time to stand up with a generic call for peace, because you lose credibility. People are quite naturally frightened. What you need to do is accurately identify who the group is that's targeting you, and then come up with a realistic plan for defense.
I noticed that when the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq came up, and the destruction of Libya, there were no such calls (from you) for cutting "the Muslims" some slack. Why is that? ( I have my opinion, but it's unkind and off-topic.) Because, if we had cut "the Muslims" some slack back then we would not be facing a monster now.
SIG
Yes, haters are actively engaged on both sides.
However, when a group is actively targeting you is not the time to stand up with a generic call for peace, because you lose credibility. People are quite naturally frightened. What you need to do is accurately identify who the group is that's targeting you, and then come up with a realistic plan for defense.
Me
You say I am generic (nonspecific) in my call for calmer heads to prevail. That’s because you have not read with honest consideration who and what I am defending. That would be the many innocent refugees. I have never suggested this mass migration was a desired outcome of mine, but the attacks have been unfair, cruel and based on fear.
As for Al Quade, DAESH, or Boko Haram who killed more than DAESH this year, Hezbollah, Iran and whomever promotes terrorism, I and completely against them.
Sig
I noticed that when the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq came up, and the destruction of Libya, there were no such calls (from you) for cutting "the Muslims" some slack. Why is that? ( I have my opinion, but it's unkind and off-topic.) Because, if we had cut "the Muslims" some slack back then we would not be facing a monster now.
Me
That’s because you cannot distinguish between governments and its people, I can. In all the instances you mention we fought alongside Muslims.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:First of all, I'm not sure that truth is decided by agreement. A billion flies eat shit, but it's still shit. And as far as I can tell, the "many" is just you and GSTRING and KPO.
My assertion wins out here over yours SIG because many here challenge you and what you post as being wrong headed. Only you and 1kiki would dispute this so trying to change your opinion is senseless.
Secondly, you don't even KNOW what my opinion is! You keep reacting to things I haven't said. Stop the voices in your head, respond to WHAT I WRITE, not what you THINK I write or who you THINK I am. Stay on-topic. Stop the name-calling. Find evidence for your opinions. Be prepared to argue it logically. We'll get along a lot better that way!
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Sig
A billion flies eat shit, but it's still shit.
Me
Yes, but it's honey to them.
Now, do you disagree with JAYNZTIOWN's 2004 post about Muslims?
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"Dumb Hicks Are America's Greatest Threat
Many of America’s political leaders are warning of the dangers posed by Syrian refugees. They are underestimating, though, the much greater danger: dumbass hicks, in charge of things.
First of all, Roanoke is a real shit hole, and so is Jacksonville. No refugees want to go there anyhow. Don’t flatter yourselves.
Second of all, you, our elected officials, are embarrassing us. All of us, except your fellow dumb hicks, who voted for you in large numbers. You—our racist, xenophobic, knuckle-dragging ignorant leaders—are making us look bad in front of the guests (the whole world). You are the bad cousin in the family who always ruins Thanksgiving. Go in the back room and drink a can of beer alone please.
The important thing I want to communicate to the world is: these are dumb hicks. Many Southern mayors are dumb hicks. Many lesser known state representatives are dumb hicks. The governor of Texas has traditionally been, with notable exceptions, a dumb hick. It is wrong to think that our political leaders should be smarter than us. In fact, they are roughly as smart as the people who elect them—us, a nation that boasts large and coherent pockets of dumbass hicks, running things."
http://gawker.com/dumb-hicks-are-americas-greatest-threat-1743373893
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Hey Thgrri,
I've worked with a few Muslims and non-Muslim people from Eastern countries back when I had a good job. In a way, you're right on the money. I never once considered any of them to be "terrorists", even though I knew most of them were learning my job to take back to their superiors at the SAME COMPANY so the SAME COMPANY could lay me and my friends off and pay them 1/10th what we got paid, which in the end is EXACTLY what happened.
Even knowing that, I wasn't mad at them personally. It was business. It's just the world we live in. They were VERY fluent in at least 2 languages. I wasn't. I could only imagine where I'd be and how much money I'd be making if I could speak their language as well as they spoke mine while they were here and I still had a good job...
I remember eating lunch one day outside cause it was a beautiful day and Harish came and sat down next to me. Everyone else we worked with called him "Harry", but I always called people by their given names out of respect. I'd get pissed if somebody at work called me "Jacky Boy"...
He was eating a burger from McDonalds! I said something like "WTF dude! I know most of that is made of soy, but aren't you eating your God?" or something along those lines.
He just laughed at me and said that just because he came from India doesn't mean he believes in all that bullshit.
I laughed harder than I remember laughing in a long time when he said that. Not because what he said was that funny in itself, but because it was funny and it opened my mind to ideas of how things are that I'd never considered before.
I think we need to do something to "curb" childbirth in this planet to ensure the future of the species, but I believe that even at nearly 7 billion Mother Earth can still take care of all of us, and for those of us who aren't power hungry and/or insane there is still plenty to go around.
Free Your Mind...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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