Why we need to chill and cut the Muslims some slack
POSTED BY: THGRRI
UPDATED: Monday, March 9, 2026 21:31
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I got a little tired of seeing the haters post nothing but hate. I got tired of them spinning current events in such a way that suggests we overact to what is going on and creates as the gentlemen in the video describes as the death spiral of negativity.
Get a grip people. Watch the video it's 18 minutes, and give this guys views some consideration.
http://www.ted.com/talks/robert_wright_on_optimism
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Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You must be confused: Defending your homeland is not terrorism. IF it was, the Kurds could be considered terrorists. But like I said, I doubt you'll really be able to post much. Once again, you've made a broad, sweeping, baseless statement.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Countries determined by the Secretary of State to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism are designated pursuant to three laws: section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act, section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act, and section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act. Taken together, the four main categories of sanctions resulting from designation under these authorities include restrictions on U.S. foreign assistance; a ban on defense exports and sales; certain controls over exports of dual use items; and miscellaneous financial and other restrictions.
Designation under the above-referenced authorities also implicates other sanctions laws that penalize persons and countries engaging in certain trade with state sponsors. Currently there are three countries designated under these authorities: Iran, Sudan, and Syria.
Country Designation Date
Iran January 19, 1984
Sudan August 12, 1993
Syria December 29, 1979
Iran’s use of terrorist proxies throughout the Middle East, Central Asia and South America has continued since the Islamic Revolution of 1979. Not only is Iran currently the number one state sponsor of terrorism, it has continued to pursue this policy despite international condemnation and will continue to do so unless effective policy is implemented that will force Iran into compliance. The especially disturbing aspect of this sponsorship is not the flagrancy with which Iran provides support, but the influence that Iran has – through its various proxies - on Middle East politics; projecting its power into Arab countries and disrupting the Middle East peace process. While Iran is unlikely to abandon its support of terrorism any time soon, there are certainly ways in which the international community can help reduce Iran’s reliance on terrorist proxies in projecting its influence. Yet, any effort will require the full support of Arab and Western states along with both patience and good diplomacy amongst those involved, with countries placing long-term stability and prosperity in the Middle East over short term political and economic aims.
Key Words: HAMAS, Hizballah, Iran, PIJ, Proxies, Terrorists
Introduction
http://globalsecuritystudies.com/Manni%20Iran%20Final.pdfHere ya go sport
A report which doesn't implicate Saudi Arabia and Qatar is purely political. I noticed that this report, like your post, provides no details nor evidence. I wasn't looking for more US State Department talking points, but references to actual terrorist actions attributable to Iran.
Has Hezbollah brought down any airplanes recently?
No.
Set off any suicide bombs?
No.
It seems that if one wants to find prejudice, one can find it anywhere. So why don't you take your advice, and cut "the Muslims" some slack, and judge them based on what they do, not on whether or not they're Iranian or Saudi or Egyptian?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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My views of Muslims:
Their history is rife with slavery and beheading people who didn't believe the same garbage.
Christianity has a history rife with slavery and murdering -in many ways- people who didn't believe in their garbage.
Modern Muslims (even the peaceful ones) still have as least a vague undercurrent notion that if you are not Muslim or pay the jizya tax, then you are inferior, and an enemy to their way of life.
Modern Christians still have a very vocal (but less physical) notion that you are going to hell if you do not believe or support them and that you are an enemy to their way of life (war on Christmas, ect).
The thing I see in common is fear and insecurity. The only difference I see is public level of intensity, and that can change on a whim. Both are just as potentially dangerous, but Muslims are currently winning in that department, and people hate to lose at ANYTHING. We don't really do vigilante style here, we just declare war and murder who we like, innocent or not, and I see no difference in style. This country has murdered whole buildings of people to get ONE PERSON. Whether War or Jihad... what's the difference?? I doubt posting HERE will change anything about either side.
I will cut no one slack of any kind, because as soon as you do- they will use it to hang you with.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You must be confused: Defending your homeland is not terrorism. IF it was, the Kurds could be considered terrorists. But like I said, I doubt you'll really be able to post much. Once again, you've made a broad, sweeping, baseless statement.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Countries determined by the Secretary of State to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism are designated pursuant to three laws: section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act, section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act, and section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act. Taken together, the four main categories of sanctions resulting from designation under these authorities include restrictions on U.S. foreign assistance; a ban on defense exports and sales; certain controls over exports of dual use items; and miscellaneous financial and other restrictions.
Designation under the above-referenced authorities also implicates other sanctions laws that penalize persons and countries engaging in certain trade with state sponsors. Currently there are three countries designated under these authorities: Iran, Sudan, and Syria.
Country Designation Date
Iran January 19, 1984
Sudan August 12, 1993
Syria December 29, 1979
Iran’s use of terrorist proxies throughout the Middle East, Central Asia and South America has continued since the Islamic Revolution of 1979. Not only is Iran currently the number one state sponsor of terrorism, it has continued to pursue this policy despite international condemnation and will continue to do so unless effective policy is implemented that will force Iran into compliance. The especially disturbing aspect of this sponsorship is not the flagrancy with which Iran provides support, but the influence that Iran has – through its various proxies - on Middle East politics; projecting its power into Arab countries and disrupting the Middle East peace process. While Iran is unlikely to abandon its support of terrorism any time soon, there are certainly ways in which the international community can help reduce Iran’s reliance on terrorist proxies in projecting its influence. Yet, any effort will require the full support of Arab and Western states along with both patience and good diplomacy amongst those involved, with countries placing long-term stability and prosperity in the Middle East over short term political and economic aims.
Key Words: HAMAS, Hizballah, Iran, PIJ, Proxies, Terrorists
Introduction
http://globalsecuritystudies.com/Manni%20Iran%20Final.pdf
A report which doesn't implicate Saudi Arabia and Qatar is purely political. I noticed that this report, like your post, provides no details nor evidence. I wasn't looking for more US State Department talking points, but references to actual terrorist actions attributable to Iran.
Has Hezbollah brought down any airplanes recently?
No.
Set off any suicide bombs?
No.
It seems that if one wants to find prejudice, one can find it anywhere. So why don't you take your advice, and cut "the Muslims" some slack, and judge them based on what they do, not on whether or not they're Iranian or Saudi or Egyptian?
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
The oblivious difference between me and you SIG is that just today I posted about Saudi Araba creating the radical Sunni jihadists in their Madrasas. Why, because it's about the truth with me SIG. I am not trying to hide the truth by denying the guilt of other entities like you do.
The problem is you are a propaganda machine and that's why most of what I post in response to you is in setting the record straight comrade troll, by pointing out you post to fit your agenda.
For you it is always Russia good, America bad. Th
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
your kind of stupid and easy to show as false profits.
You three really are nitwits.
Yanno, if you are going to call someone a nitwit you might at least use the word "YOU'RE" right... Kinda lessens the punch a bit.
Or at least, if you don't know which one to use, the word "yer" is punchy.
Just saying...
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
your kind of stupid and easy to show as false profits.
You three really are nitwits.
Yanno, if you are going to call someone a nitwit you might at least use the word "YOU'RE" right... Kinda lessens the punch a bit.
Or at least, if you don't know which one to use, the word "yer" is punchy.
Just saying...
I have posts from one thread to the next wishie. A grammatical error here and there is inevitable.
Do you think you have none in your many posts?
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Quote:Demands for military intervention are constant and endless. But America's actual ability to engage in non-counterproductive interventions is quite limited.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I got a little tired of seeing the haters post nothing but hate. I got tired of them spinning current events in such a way that suggests we overact to what is going on and creates a death spiral of negativity.
Get a grip people. Watch the video. It's 18 minutes.
What do you do when the moral and emotional stakes of an attack seem to call for war but there is no war that can be constructively fought? You watch the video that started all this bitterness and backbiting. Your unwillingness to understand one another, as in the clash between the Muslim world and the West, will lead to all of us losing the non-zero-sum "game" we are playing here at fireflyfans.net.
Start the video at 14:40. Or don't. It's your game to lose.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sam Harris says it all - a free thinking Atheist, he's not too far removed from Mahers philosphy, he's teamed up with other ex-muslims and atheists to speak up
Harris a liberal, calls out other liberals for being spineless
http://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/still-sleepwalking-toward-armage
ddon
Listen to his podcast, he's a great speaker
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Demands for military intervention are constant and endless. But America's actual ability to engage in non-counterproductive interventions is quite limited.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I got a little tired of seeing the haters post nothing but hate. I got tired of them spinning current events in such a way that suggests we overact to what is going on and creates a death spiral of negativity.
Get a grip people. Watch the video. It's 18 minutes.
What do you do when the moral and emotional stakes of an attack seem to call for war but there is no war that can be constructively fought? You watch the video that started all this bitterness and backbiting. Your unwillingness to understand one another, as in the clash between the Muslim world and the West, will lead to all of us losing the non-zero-sum "game" we are playing here at fireflyfans.net.
Start the video at 14:40. Or don't. It's your game to lose.
This link is not about ISIS but instead about the fact that some here post as though all Muslims are a threat, and should not be allowed access to the rest of the world. It's bigotry plain and simple as well as being dangerous.
When you allow Muslims to migrate the process of migrating away from Islam starts to take effect. Even in places like Iran we can see the changes that have occurred lately. After the riots those seeking a more western life style have seen the reigns of oppression loosen its grip. The Mullahs knew they had to do this in order to survive. We need to survive as a race long enough to shed ourselves of religion.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Sam Harris says it all - a free thinking Atheist, he's not too far removed from Mahers philosphy, he's teamed up with other ex-muslims and atheists to speak up
Harris a liberal, calls out other liberals for being spineless
http://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/still-sleepwalking-toward-armage
ddon
Listen to his podcast, he's a great speaker
I can find lots of Jew's willing to denounce Judaism, Muslims willing to denounce Islam and Catholics willing to denounce Catholicism ( I used to belong to this group ). You are talking about three people with opinions shared by other like minded people.
like I said in a previous post. The last time people listened to assholes like you we suffered WW11. Seventy two million people died. Some of us here see you for what you are. A hate monger...
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