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Hear Joss Whedon Call (if you missed it)

POSTED BY: BONNIET
UPDATED: Monday, November 1, 2004 20:39
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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:24 PM

I just got this info. on how to hear JOSS's call of last Sunday if you missed it and even if you already heard it! ~~ (hear it again, it was pretty shiny).

Here is your chance to get to hear the conversaton between Joss Whedon and the fans at the High Stakes event from last Sunday:

If people weren't able to participate in High Stakes: Whedon Fans for John Kerry and John Edwards or if they did and want to hear a recording of it again, it's now available. Nathan Fillion, Joss Whedon, Alyson Hannigan, Alexis Denisof, Amy Acker, and more!

Email josscall@highstakes2004.com with your real name, phone number, and email.

You will have to donate $25 (to $2000) to the Kerry campaign to hear the conversation.

You'll get the details when you email the information!




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Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:32 AM

I have more info on the opportunity to hear Joss's call if you missed it!
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For those who missed the High Stakes event on October 24th, or who want to be on the joy train again, a recording of the High Stakes 2004: Whedon Fans for John Kerry and John Edwards teleconference is now available. Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Firefly, and upcoming feature film Serenity, takes a bite out of politics and shares details about his current doings.

Joss spent 40 minutes answering questions from attendees at house parties across the U.S, speaking passionately about the effect of politics on his writing, his desire for regime change, and how Spike is so hot. [really, those are good parts] The recording includes shoutouts from visiting cast members such as Alyson Hannigan (Willow), Amy Acker (Fred), Nicholas Brendon (Xander), Alexis Denisov (Wesley), and Nathan Fillion (Our Beloved Captain). Nathan's comments are veeeery interesting!

You can listen to these folks in the comfort of your home as fast as Dawn can invite in Harmony (but it's much safer). You do, however, have to donate a minimum of $25 (or up to $2000). The more money you donate, the more stakes we can afford for fighting Evil.

Simply send an email to Josscall@highstakes2004.com, include your full name, phone number, and email, and you will receive further instructions about how to access the recorded call. Due to U.S. campaign laws, only U.S. citizens and green-card holder residents in the U.S. are eligible. All proceeds go to the Kerry/Edwards campaign.

"You depend on luck, you end up on the drift -- no fuel, no prospects.... beggin' for Alliance make-work. And towed out to the scrap belt. That ain't us. Not ever." -- Mal

Don't depend on luck to win this election. Donate, then listen and enjoy. As Buffy said, Make your choice. Are you ready to be strong?

Check www.highstakes2004.com for more information.

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I can tell you as someone who HAS heard it, it's very much worth it and you'll love it.

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:35 AM

And if you attended the big kahuna party where Joss and Nathan appeared, or any of the others too, this is for you. I read this on Whedonesque:

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In addition, Marsia Powers, co-host of the L.A. High Stakes party, is asking those of us who were there, or at the other parties nationwide, to send her our pictures and reports of the events. I already sent her links to the Flickr page and to our High Stakes comments, but I think she'd like to get permission from the photographers themselves in order to post the pics on the HS site: marsia@powersandpowers.com

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:03 AM

Bonniet:

Have you ever even seen Firefly? Or are you just a shill for your Mother Party, preying upon our website? It appears the only things you've posted have been (paid?) political advertisements. At the very least, do you promise to go away by Tuesday evening?

Was that brave enough for you? Did it sound like I was making a choice (to belittle your blatant campaigning)?

There you go. My political statement, and you didn't have to donate a Red cent to my least-hated Party (which is a private matter, hello?) to hear it...


Disdainfully,

zoid

P.S.
You should see a doctor about that rash. At the very least, abstain from intimate activity until it clears up, and use prophylactics at all times.

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:45 AM

I don't think that many normal people will pay to hear a conversation that they should be able to hear for free... or will they? Have they?

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Inara: Who's winning?
Simon: I can't really tell, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
Bonniet:

Have you ever even seen Firefly?


Zoid: I think your post is unreasonably harsh.

Bonniet has been a browncoat considerably longer than you have been, just because there are fewer posts or that those posts have been political doesn't mean that a long time member of this board doesn't have the right to post.

Personally I think it is Joss' involvement, and not the political party being supported, which legitimizes the interest.

We have all been interested to hear Adam Baldwin's views, and I think that Joss Whedon's views would hold just as much general interest to most of us here.

JMPO

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

You will have to donate $25 (to $2000) to the Kerry campaign to hear the conversation

Big fan of Joss , Nathan and the rest, but I'd not send 1$ toward the Kerry/Edwards effort even if it meant getting one of Nathan's Browncoats and a pair of Amy Acker's worn 'unmentionables' in return.


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 2:48 PM

Zoid,

Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
Bonniet:

Have you ever even seen Firefly? Or are you just a shill for your Mother Party, preying upon our website?



I concur that your post was really unnecessarily critical, maybe even a little mean. Everybody should care about politics, and should be free to discuss those politics.

It seems that Adam Baldwin and Joss Whedon have non parallel political views, and are outspoken about those views, but this doesn't stop them from having a good relationship and working well together, and having civil discussions with each other.

And, looking at the poll numbers, it seems that many members will probably be very interested in hearing Joss' and Nathan's political commentary and in donating money for something they believe in. I am not one of them, but I think it's ok that they be given the opportunity.

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:30 PM

I saw two things in the original posts that put Zoid's comments on the correct level...

Quote:

Originally posted by BONNIET:
The more money you donate, the more stakes we can afford for fighting Evil.



followed later by...

Quote:

Originally posted by BONNIET:
Are you ready to be strong?



Perhaps the response could be seen as harsh, but not any more then the original statement. At least thats my opinion, I'm sure others will feel differently.

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Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:09 PM

debij wrote:

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...interested in hearing Joss' and Nathan's political commentary and in donating money for something they believe in...

Yeah. And that's why there's specific forums at this board for 'Real World Discussions' and 'One Trading Post' (for soliciting monies for your pet projects); although the 'One Trading Post' regulars are actually selling products of their own handicraft, and may give you the stink-eye for posting there, too.

As for me, there was a concerted effort on the General Discussions forum to kick all the political commentary out, because it had become so pervasive and devisive, and we won. I hate political fund-raising and proselytization, regardless the political party. Like religion, I believe it's every person's private matter; there's a time and place for it, and the General Discussions forum ain't it.

Me? I'm following the lead of the Father of our Country, George Washington, who retired after two terms as President -- when the people actually wanted to proclaim him King -- in large part due to the rise of political parties:
Quote:

...They serve to Organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force--to put in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party; often a small but artful and enterprizing minority of the Community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public Administration the Mirror of the ill concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the Organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common councils and modefied by mutual interests.

Sound familiar? Those who do not learn from history (not to mention from the geniuses who bled for our freedom and engineered our representative government) are doomed to relive the punishments it so painfully administers, ad infinitum.

Whenever AB, or JW, or NF, or Bonniet speak on politics, it should be done in a different forum. People who are interested in their opinions, so that they can make a more educated choice on Election Day (okay, wait 'til I stop laughing here) know where to go to find those opinions. However, when the object of the post is strictly an attempt to bilk folks out of money for one's favored party, preying upon their fondness for Firefly, then you must get thee behind me Satan. I insist.

They have the right to free speech. I have the right to rip them a new one (metaphorically speaking) if they say it within earshot of me...

Finally, my marching orders, and a basis for action for those who feel -- as I do -- that this forum should be kept clean of the filth of Party Propaganda (whether left or right): a final word from our first President's Farewell Address:
Quote:

...(I) warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party, generally.

This Spirit, unfortunately, is inseperable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human Mind. It exists under different shapes in all Governments, more or less stifled, controuled, or repressed; but in those of the popular form it is seen in its greatest rankness and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissention, which in different ages & countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. -- (And now the prophetic bit, emphasis zoid's) -- The disorders & miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security & repose in the absolute power of an Individual: and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight)
-- the common & continual mischiefs of the spirit of Party are suffi

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