The scariest thing I've read in ages
POSTED BY: Wishimay
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http://news.yahoo.com/one-third-americans-fine-military-184519729.html
"Is there any situation in which you could imagine yourself supporting the U.S. military taking over the powers of federal government?" Interestingly, Republicans were twice as likely as Democrats to answer 'yes' to the question; 43 percent of Republicans said they could imagine supporting a military coup, while only 20 percent of Democrat said they'd support the move. About 30 percent of self-identified independent voters said they could get behind a military takeover.
Yeah, run this country just like they run the V.A.
I mean, costs will drop, coffin and aspirin sales will be through the roof.
Need surgery? Have an aspirin...
Schools will be teaching guns, grits and camo.
Checkpoints on every street.
Mexico and Canada can declare war on us using OUR OWN WEAPONS.
One in four women will be raped and no one will ever go to trial.
All paperwork will be forwarded to the Vogon headquarters.
Hope you like war movies...
Geeez. 
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I have a better "scary" story than you: Polls in the last year turned up higher-than-expected support for Texas secession from the USA, up to 34 percent.
Secessionists hopeful despite odds By Dylan Baddour
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Ever-hopef
ul-and-determined-Texas-secessionists-6502332.php
Everyone has seen the bumper stickers: “Texas Secede.” It’s an age-old jest in the Lone Star State. But some people take it seriously. Really seriously.
Joe Fallin is one of them. An independent Texas is his greatest dream.
A struggling oil field machinery worker from outside Bryan, Fallin, 40, is a freshman “senator” in a volunteer group called the Republic of Texas, whose members believe Texas never legally became part of the United States and, therefore, remains a sovereign nation. They maintain executive, legislative and judicial branches of government and call their monthly meetings joint sessions of congress. They refer to themselves as Texians — citizens of the Republic of Texas. Their solemn mission, debated these days at considerable length: plotting a legalistic escape from Uncle Sam. “It’s not a question of if it’s going to happen, it’s a question of when,” Fallin said.
Times are relatively good for the Republic. Bold anti-federalism at the state Capitol has nudged the mainstream a little nearer to the Texians, and popular opposition to Washington has generated interest in their cause, at least online.
Even the Russian media, at Vladimir Putin’s behest, have cheered the independence movement and a rival secessionist group, the Texas Nationalist Movement, since the United States brought aggressive sanctions against Russia last fall for its activities in the Ukraine, according to a recent Politco story: “Putin’s plot to get Texas to secede.”
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/vladimir-putin-texas-secession
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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They'll chanje the name to Texass!
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SECOND, you and KWICKO are stellar exceptions, and I would sure hate the USA to lose people like you, but ... If most Texans wants to secede, I'd help them achieve their dream!
WISH, roughly 30% of Americans believe that dinosaurs and humans coexisted, because God created all animals and plants in their current form. About 35% of Americans are beyond stupid, they are WILLFULLY IGNORANT. What can I say? Americans have been like that for decades. Yes, it's scary, but it's nothing new.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Quote:You won't like what happens next. The Pantex Plant is the United States' only nuclear weapons assembly facility. It is near Amarillo TEXAS! When Texas becomes a nation it will be a nuclear weaponized rogue nation.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If most Texans wants to secede, I'd help them achieve their dream!
Are you Yankees feeling fearful? You should because the South Shall Rise Again. And this time it will win.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WISH, roughly 30% of Americans believe that dinosaurs and humans coexisted, because God created all animals and plants in their current form. About 35% of Americans are beyond stupid, they are WILLFULLY IGNORANT. What can I say? Americans have been like that for decades. Yes, it's scary, but it's nothing new.
Yes, and there are far more idiots than intelligents and it wouldn't take much. That's what's scary.
'Course, the gov't already screwed MY FAMILY over, how much worse could it get? Oh, yeah....they'll come for the rest of you... and then tell you how much better of you are for it. I think there are a whole lotta people who would sell out this country for a dollar, and I'm not sure they'd be wrong for it.
On that note...I AM still very very pissed he lost his job. I mean, we knew it was coming SOMETIME, but it still sucks. Bye bye three weeks of vacation...It would have been the first time ever for us.
Also, on that note... I have a neighbor that has a terminal disease, who has convinced Medicaid that she needs dental implants which cost about 50k... Meanwhile, while my family was out of work and two other families on this street, buying insurance would have meant about $450 a month and over a thousand for a family of four. Where do they think people should get that from????
Unemployment insurance should also cover COBRA, or at least a free clinic or something, because that's just ridiculous. I don't know anyone who could pony that up while unemployed...
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Quote:I saw an article that won't make you any happier, but it does explain a cure for unemployment. The cure has worked, will again work, and it will not be taken for ideological reasons.
Originally posted by Wishimay:
On that note...I AM still very very pissed he lost his job. I mean, we knew it was coming SOMETIME, but it still sucks. ... Meanwhile, while my family was out of work and two other families on this street, buying insurance would have meant about $450 a month and over a thousand for a family of four. Where do they think people should get that from????
Keynesianism Explained
September 15, 2015 9:18 am
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/15/keynesianism-explained/
Attacks on Keynesians in general, and on me in particular, rely heavily on an army of straw men — on knocking down claims about what people like me have predicted or asserted that have nothing to do with what we’ve actually said. But maybe we (or at least I) have been remiss, failing to offer a simple explanation of what it’s all about. I don’t mean the models; I mean the policy implications.
So here’s an attempt at a quick summary, followed by a sampling of typical bogus claims.
I would summarize the Keynesian view in terms of four points:
1. Economies sometimes produce much less than they could, and employ many fewer workers than they should, because there just isn’t enough spending. Such episodes can happen for a variety of reasons; the question is how to respond.
2. There are normally forces that tend to push the economy back toward full employment. But they work slowly; a hands-off policy toward depressed economies means accepting a long, unnecessary period of pain.
3. It is often possible to drastically shorten this period of pain and greatly reduce the human and financial losses by “printing money”, using the central bank’s power of currency creation to push interest rates down.
4. Sometimes, however, monetary policy loses its effectiveness, especially when rates are close to zero. In that case temporary deficit spending can provide a useful boost. And conversely, fiscal austerity in a depressed economy imposes large economic losses.
Is this a complicated, convoluted doctrine? It doesn’t sound that way to me, and the implications for the world we’ve been living in since 2008 seem very clear: aggressive monetary expansion, plus fiscal stimulus as long as the zero lower bound constrains monetary policy.
But strange things happen in the minds of critics. Again and again we see the following bogus claims about what Keynesians believe:
B1: Any economic recovery, no matter how slow and how delayed, proves Keynesian economics wrong. See [2] above for why that’s illiterate.
B2: Keynesians believe that printing money solves all problems. See [3]: printing money can solve one specific problem, an economy operating far below capacity. Nobody said that it can conjure up higher productivity, or cure the common cold.
B3: Keynesians always favor deficit spending, under all conditions. See [4]: The case for fiscal stimulus is quite restrictive, requiring both a depressed economy and severe limits to monetary policy. That just happens to be the world we’ve been living in lately.
I have no illusions that saying this obvious stuff will stop the usual suspects from engaging in the usual bogosity. But maybe this will help others respond when they do.
Comment by Michaelxyz Waldo 5 minutes ago
Most people I talk to who oppose Keynesian stimulus base that opposition on three beliefs, each stoked furiously by Fox and Friends and organizations funded by the richest amongst us. First, deficits are by definition bad. Forget the idea that deficits rise and fall, that government debt is also someone's savings, the savings paradox, and all that nonsense. They picture themselves sitting around the dining room table in hard times deciding whether Johnny can go to college. Second, these folks have had it drilled into them since Reagan's days that the government is incompetent and a negati
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What ARE you trying to say?
It looks like you are saying "Just print more money, it'll all work out in the end..." ???????
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Quote:Look a second time because you are making a straw man argument. This is why the article was so scary.
Originally posted by Wishimay:
What ARE you trying to say?
It looks like you are saying "Just print more money, it'll all work out in the end..." ???????
I will quote the relevant part to you:
Quote:If you want to know what Keynesian economics is, then wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics
4. Sometimes, however, monetary policy loses its effectiveness, especially when {interest} rates are close to zero. In that case temporary deficit spending {by government} can provide a useful boost. And conversely, fiscal austerity {by government} in a depressed economy imposes large economic losses {that's job losses}.
Is this a complicated, convoluted doctrine? It doesn’t sound that way to me, and the implications for the world we’ve been living in since 2008 seem very clear
But if you think a big problem in the United States is that the take-home pay of the top 1 percent of the population is too low, then good luck to you and I hope a 1 percenter will magnanimously save you from unemployment with their money.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I will quote the relevant part to you:
But if you think a big problem in the United States is that the take-home pay of the top 1 percent of the population is too low, then good luck to you and I hope a 1 percenter will magnanimously save you from unemployment with their money.
I never understand why most of you post pages and pages ANYWAY. Get to the meat of what you are trying to say and make it a little less work for the rest of us that don't get all day to spend here...
As for the 1%, what would you like me to do about it? They don't care about me and I don't care about them. I don't have any authority over who prints out what either. All most of us can do is hope to change a policy, because changing the 1% ain't gonna happen. We'd have better luck staging a coup and killing them all than we ever would changing their minds or the way they operate. People will always act like people do, like they always have since the beginning of civilizations...
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