Iranian nuclear deal
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UPDATED: Saturday, September 5, 2015 19:44
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Secretary of State Swiftboat Ketchup.
Sooo...John Kerry?
I didnt pay much attention to politics back then. Bunch uv rich guyz fiting over who gets to steal my money befor I ever see it.
But, apparently you havent been paying any attention either:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_military_service_controversyQuote:
Their campaign against Kerry's presidential bid received widespread publicity,[1] but was later discredited and gave rise to the neologism "swiftboating", to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.[2][3] Defenders of John Kerry's service record, including nearly all of his former crewmates, have stated that SBVT's allegations are false
No bias in your link.
Yep, Swiftboating is a term used to describe accurate and true and fair but unflattering facts about libtard service.
John Forbes Kerry.
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It's a good deal.
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So in your expert opinion, IF Iran agrees to allow the requested inspection within 24 days, nobody in the world can make any evidence of production go away - it will be there forever, or more than 3 months, or more than 24 days.
In your expert opinion, how many days is needed for evidence of violations to be cleaned up? Or do you claim never?
Hoo boy! Here comes RAPPY II, with the paranoid delusions of secret WMD programs!
No, you CAN'T "clean up" a former site where radioactive materials were processed. At least, not in 24 days. Do you want to know why?
Because radioactive material "declares itself", even in minute concentrations, thanks to the fact that it emits ... radiation. You don't even need a Geiger counter. All you have to do is put a sample of dirt on photographic film, and it'll take its own picture. That's how sub-micron (1/10 the diameter of human hair/ invisible to the naked eye) radioactive aerosols from Fukushima were detected thousands of miles away.
But if you want to get fancy, you can analyze for specific compounds, like cesium. In fact, the USGS measured Fukushima radioactive daughter products in the USA, even though they were in really low quantities (not readily distinguishable by Geiger counter above "background" radiation)
https://bqs.usgs.gov/fukushima/
The technology is there to make those measurements. That's ONE thing you don't have to worry about! The fact that "reporters" make such a deal about it, when they can (and SHOULD) educate themselves about the realities by consulting nuclear monitoring experts tells me that they're only interested in spreading toxic lies.
Heck, if it were possible to clean up sites so thoroughly and so quickly, Chernobyl, Hanford and Fukushima would be sparkling clean by now! (They've had YEARS to work on the problem.)
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I think the more interesting question is ... why now??
It's not because Obama is such a peace-loving President. He's been in charge of all of the anti-Russian events (Ukraine coup, sanctions, NATO drills, economic warfare) and anti-Chinese (flyovers, disputes over constructed islands, TPP membership, anti-AIIB drive) events, and was in charge during the destruction of Libya, the attempted (and ongoing) destruction of Syria, and other attempted "color revolution" and "Arab Spring" events.
Those aren't the actions of a peace-loving President.
Nope, sorry.
He may be "smart" but he's just as "bought and paid for" as any Republican President.
I think this speaks to a rupture with Saudi Arabia, which supports Al Qaida and its various offshoots, and which tacitly supports ISIS. (After all, look at who Saudi Arabia is supporting in Yemen.)
Israel, too, has a tacit agreement with Saudi Arabia, and thus with Al Qaida (which has not once attacked Israel. You should wonder about that.)
Hubby has been saying for quite a while now that the acts of the USA are those of a desperate nation: pushing all the buttons and pulling all the levers that it can to maintain its hegemony.
I didn't agree with him before, but now that I see the USA clinging to the nations that it was previously on the "outs" with (Cuba, Iran) I'm beginning to think that maybe the admin is seeking protection from a coming storm. What will be next: North Korea?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think the more interesting question is ... why now??
It's not because Obama is such a peace-loving President. He's been in charge of all of the anti-Russian events (Ukraine coup, sanctions, NATO drills, economic warfare) and anti-Chinese (flyovers, disputes over constructed islands, TPP membership, anti-AIIB drive) events, and was in charge during the destruction of Libya, the attempted (and ongoing) destruction of Syria, and other attempted "color revolution" and "Arab Spring" events.
Those aren't the actions of a peace-loving President.
Nope, sorry.
He may be "smart" but he's just as "bought and paid for" as any Republican President.
I think this speaks to a rupture with Saudi Arabia, which supports Al Qaida and its various offshoots, and which tacitly supports ISIS. (After all, look at who Saudi Arabia is supporting in Yemen.)
Israel, too, has a tacit agreement with Saudi Arabia, and thus with Al Qaida (which has not once attacked Israel. You should wonder about that.)
Hubby has been saying for quite a while now that the acts of the USA are those of a desperate nation: pushing all the buttons and pulling all the levers that it can to maintain its hegemony.
I didn't agree with him before, but now that I see the USA clinging to the nations that it was previously on the "outs" with (Cuba, Iran) I'm beginning to think that maybe the admin is seeking protection from a coming storm. What will be next: North Korea?
Sunnis and Shiites. Saudi Arabia and Iran on opposites in that spectrum, right?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
So in your expert opinion, IF Iran agrees to allow the requested inspection within 24 days, nobody in the world can make any evidence of production go away - it will be there forever, or more than 3 months, or more than 24 days.
In your expert opinion, how many days is needed for evidence of violations to be cleaned up? Or do you claim never?
Hoo boy! Here comes RAPPY II, with the paranoid delusions of secret WMD programs!
No, you CAN'T "clean up" a former site where radioactive materials were processed. At least, not in 24 days. Do you want to know why?
Because radioactive material "declares itself", even in minute concentrations, thanks to the fact that it emits ... radiation. You don't even need a Geiger counter. All you have to do is put a sample of dirt on photographic film, and it'll take its own picture. That's how sub-micron (1/10 the diameter of human hair/ invisible to the naked eye) radioactive aerosols from Fukushima were detected thousands of miles away.
But if you want to get fancy, you can analyze for specific compounds, like cesium. In fact, the USGS measured Fukushima radioactive daughter products in the USA, even though they were in really low quantities (not readily distinguishable by Geiger counter above "background" radiation)
https://bqs.usgs.gov/fukushima/
The technology is there to make those measurements. That's ONE thing you don't have to worry about! The fact that "reporters" make such a deal about it, when they can (and SHOULD) educate themselves about the realities by consulting nuclear monitoring experts tells me that they're only interested in spreading toxic lies.
Heck, if it were possible to clean up sites so thoroughly and so quickly, Chernobyl, Hanford and Fukushima would be sparkling clean by now! (They've had YEARS to work on the problem.)
Those 3 sites were never built to be portable sites. And they were not given an attempt to be cleaned up. Only "made safe" in terms of radiation.
I listened to that Moniz guy (on FNC's interview with Chris Wallace), who has been co-opted by Bobo when he became Secretary, and when he was repeatedly interrupted and corrected (and told he was wrong) by Swiftboat Ketchup.
He was not so certain as you that detectable evidence could not be removed, and he did not state that it could certainly be detected. He did state that it is possible that evidence might be detected. His previous statement that inspections needed to be available and accessible was played and he walked that back, pointing out that was before he was part of the Bobo Administration.
But it sounds like you are a much more credible expert that that Moniz guy.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
I'm shocked!SHOCKED!
Then agen, from Wikipedia:Quote:
Prior to joining the National Journal he was the senior White House correspondent for the Fox News Channel.
The only explanation that makes sens iz that he wants to go back to Fox.
Not that I know anything about the CBS newz organization. I cant get the channel here. Are they rite wing or possibly trying to be in order to cash in on the abundant idiots?
CBS has not had a News organization in decades. They have many entertainment programs (aka CBS Entertainment Division) that feature actors playing teleprompter readers like Brian Williams and Dan Blather, known around the world for their libtard lies.
Williams was NBC.
Thanks for the correction. His lies sounded so much like Blather's lies that I failed to discern which of Obama's Propaganda Departments he was with. He could have been as bad as CNN for all I knew.
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Originally posted by G:
This could be the best deal ever and then someone, say, a Retarblican (my tip o' the hat to JSF) or Israel, could come along and schwack it.
Fails to make sense.
Liberals stuck in their delusions to the degree that they appear retarded are what produce the contraction Libtard. Those who cannot think for themselves, must be spoon-fed the propaganda by Brian Williams or Josh Ernest, who think that reducing 9 Trillion down to 12 Trillion is a great hardship, have earned the Libtard label.
Not that there are no liberals among the GOP, those known as RINOs.
But those who can think for themselves, can see the real world past the delusional drivel of the Looney Lefty Lying Liberals, and are Patriotic enough to want the preserve the Republic, are by definition not deluded nor retarded. Hence, the attempted contraction of "Tard" into thoughtful Republicans is illogical.
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Originally posted by JO753:
Can you really blame Major? He iz living in the hart uv the Fox eko chamber, so it woud be next to impossible for him to realize wut an idiotic 'question'
Echo Chamber.
I have seen you use this term, and had assumed you understood it's actual meaning. But your consistent expelling of drivel of Libtard bias indicated that you really had no clue what it's meaning was, what it produces, how it works. I had given you the benefit of the doubt, but in that I was wrong.
Absent the actual definition, you seem to have reverted the the bebop, hip-hop version of definitions, via some drastically biased source.
You seem to think an Echo Chamber is like the MainStreamMedia phenomenon where they make a fake story or quote, and then all others attribute their false "facts" to this knowingly fake origin, and then they all runaway on tangents of the fake origin, trying desperately to prove their surreal and false delusions with these fake "facts". And then you mistakenly applied these delusional properties to the right side of the spectrum.
Had you understood the real, true, original meaning of Echo Chamber, your attribution to the Right would have been accurate. Alas, you failed.
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