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best sci-fi villans

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:42 PM

oooo! i forgot about that movie. i would take riddick (from pitch black, he was somewhat different in the sequel). he is more of an anti-hero as opposed to a villain. i always loved his line:

so. finally found something worse than me.

loved that.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:47 PM

Finally! Somebody mentioned Darth Maul!

Here's another two nobody's mentioned: Dark Willow from season 6 Buffy; and General Grievous from the animated Star Wars, Clone Wars, who will be three dimensional in Episode III. I'm not sure if Lucas is gonna wussify him for the movie or not, but I know he was 100% pure ass kicking death in the cartoon. He took on 5 or 6 Jedi and ruled ass, after he outmanuevered them in the field of battle. I don't think I need an explanation for Dark Willow.

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:24 PM

I love Riddick too, but he's always been the anti-hero to me....that's why I said Johns....Johns is the really evil one, as I found out looking into his background. He shot children (children on a holy pilgrimage no less) to capture Riddick in the first place.

And Darth Maul is just as cool a Darth Vader. I really wish they had not killed him off. He could have pulled a bad ass factor into the new starwars big time.

Gosh, I was thrilled to see Callisto from Xena mentioned. I loved her in that show. She was just so cool, and mean.

Wow, I forgot Dark Willow....Pulled off to a tee. Great Baddy....

What about Fred's dark turn in Angel?

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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:53 AM

Quote:

Avon on Blake's Seven - villian or anti-hero? Any fans of B7 recall when he was searching a shuttle to throw Villa overboard to make orbit? This scene sticks in my mind.


Avon wasn't a villain!
Well, not all of the time.
Yeah, I remember the episode, but I don't recall the name of it. as I recall, they found what was weighing the ship down just in time. That was post-Blake as I recall.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:33 PM

Well, hey, Shadowvessel, that just triggered the creeps in me...seeing those gorramn Shadow ships coming out of hyperspace....brrrrrr! Yep, the Shadows from B5 are one of the nastiest villains for me!

Movies: the Alien is still numero uno big bug, but Hannibal Lecter is the best psych villain. The Predator is a great one, but I actually respect them rather than see them as evil...they have a society and intellectual reason for what they do, rather than just being driven to reproduce and destroy (oh, yeah, remember the Swarm alien in Voyager? Kinda the same instinctual hive mind as Aliens).

Books: I'm sure there are other really good ones, but in the 'verses I spend time in, Baron Harkonnen is especially perverted and twisted, and unpredictible (which makes him even more evil) and I love that Jessica's mother is who's responsible for making him so "semi-corpsified" and even more warped and gross.

----edited to add TV: Scorpius...all hail Scorpy/Harvey!!! Agree...a leather fetishist's dream (err...nightmare?) come true...smart, funny, calculating, cruel and with a great back story to boot...gotta love him!
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Firefly: Early is certainly creepy, but I like the business-like way that Niska goes about his particular brand of evil (If nothing else, you know *exactly* where you stand with him, and what will happen if you piss him off!) The Blue Hands guys have great potential, but we didn't get to see them in action enough...it was very "X-files" in execution, and I would have liked to see that side story develop more.


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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:53 PM

I'd say taht my favorite Sci-Fi villain is Scorpius. I like Vader, he was pretty cool and menacing, but I think that Scorpius is evil, creepy, super intelligent, tricky, and just full of personality.

Also I don't think anyone mentioned Spike. I thought Spike was the best part of Buffy when he was a bad guy. Plus he made Angelus cool.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:42 PM

Well I just rewatched Leon and sorry but Gary Oldman overacts in that too...

.. in The 5th Element: his approach is perhaps better suited to the genre, but he aint in the least bit villainous to me. More like a cartoon stoodge.....No, as villains go he don't do it for me.

On a different note did anybody ever watch that show Brimstone with John Glover as the Devil ? So matter of fact about fate and destiny - gave me chills. Great show too.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:52 PM

Okay, I'm gonna list some of my favourite films /TV shows / comics and my favourite villain from each.
Buffy - Angelus
Angel - Lyndsey McDonald
Firefly - Saffron
Deep Space Nine - Dukat
Star Wars - Darth Vader
Voyager - The Borg Queen
X-men - Apocalypse
Spider-man - Norman Osborne (when he's just plain Norman Osborne, not when he's being the Green Goblin)
Superman - Lex Luther
Oh, and let's not forget the all-time king of the bad guys, a character who has been in more comics, movies, books and TV shows than I can count: satan

All right, some of those were pretty obvious, but they're all cool villains. Spike would have been my favourite Buffy villain but I see him as more of a tragic anti-hero. Same with Darth Vader actually.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:53 PM

I can't believe I didn't even think of the Shadows! I think it's because, technically, they're not villains. They did villainous things, no doubt, but in the end we discovered they were only "caring" for us. Tough Love I guess you could say.

...

...you're right, they were freakin' awesome villains.

I guess when you think about sci-fi villains the biggies come to mind: Predator, Aliens, Darth Vader. These are the baddies I think everyone loves (or fears). So naturally I don't even think of them when a question like this arises. They're givens.

But yeah, Angelus (in Buffy season 2) was awesome and possibly one of the freakin' coolest villains ever. I mean, what kind of balls did that take to turn one of the main heroes of the show into the Big Bad of the season? And boy, was he bad. I loved how they didn't hold back with him, offing Jenny Calender like that and then putting her in Giles' bed! And then sitting outside the window to thoroughly enjoy the pain he'd caused with the sight of Buffy and Willow breaking down. And that brings us to Dark Willow. Remembering her from that afore mentioned scene and then fast forwarding to the end of season 6. Whoa. As a person with an addictive personallity myself, it was just so awesome to see how Allison Hannigan pulled that total role reversal off. Oh yeah, Tom Welling does the same thing in Smallville. By the end of that first episode when he went bad (not the numerous follow-ups), I actually had chills. To see Clark almost willing to kill, and believing it. Again...Whoa.

I don't know, maybe I've just got a thing for good guys who go bad. Perfect Joss fan, I'd say.

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Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:38 PM

Ah finally someone mentioned the Shadows from B5 - they give me the heebie jeebies, I love the daleks but it was the Cybermen that really freaked me out when I was a kid - hid behind the couch I did.

For me it has to Scorpius not that I don't love Vader and the Alien and Predator but Scorpius was just unbelievably evil and nasty.

And Avon wasn't not villain, anti hero maybe but not a villain. Servelan - now she was a villian and a damned good one too.

And not in the sci fi area at all but Billy Zane in Dead Calm - he just wouldn't die! Yep kept coming back.

"This movie may be a beautiful butterfly, but I loved that damn caterpillar." Joss Whedon.

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